ward implications of breast implants

[Guest]

This issue doesn't make sense to me. Why would anyone know what surgical procedures you have done. Unless you draw attention to yourself and dress to accentuate it. I don't see why anyone has to know.

How do you know what cup size someone else is. Why are you interested anyway. If the woman has some problems for many years with her self confidence and this makes her feel better about herself than who's business is it.

Unless she gets implants like Dolly Pardon, I don't see why anyone should be pointing fingers or gossiping about it. Sometimes just buying a good bra can make a big difference. Why would this be something discussed.

If I decide to have my teeth whitened, do I have to consider all of the other women in the church that may think this procedure is frivolous? What is I have bunions but they don't bother me physically but I'm self conscious about them and I have them surgically removed. Do I never wear pretty shoes for fear someone might see my beautiful feet and be jealous.

In my opinion, this isn't an issue with implants at all but a spiritual issue in the ward that needs to be addressed.

I cant help wondering how it even became and issue. Do people routinely calculate your bra size in church? If there is a variance do they have a heart attack and immediately draw everyone's attention to it?

Was the woman bragging about it? Hey look at me! My chest is huge!!!

I doubt either is true.

People are too darn nosy into other peoples business. Can you imagine the woman going to church now knowing everyone is staring at her boobs and considering their size and attractiveness? Unless shes an exhibitionist no way is any woman going to enjoy that kind of attention.

To think that there is TWELVE pages of posts here on the subject is just weird. My gosh dont people have better things to consider?

My understanding of what happened in dash77's ward is that these women who had implants talked about their "new" breasts with other women and encouraged others to have them as well. This is for sure something I do not agree with. Breast implants should remain a personal matter and not something to "ooh" and "ahhh" about.

But, you are correct, the problem is not the breast implants per se. The problem is the attitude of the ward. Breast implants is just the tool that made these sinful attitudes surface.

[dash77]

Annewandering and Yorkiibbebs:

Your voice and thougths are alsways welcome. However, I would suggest you read through the various threads to gain a more accurate understanding of the question at hand because the questions you pose have already been answered. Anatess has accurately answered them also in her last post -- but take the time to read the entire thread because it will prove an in-depth understanidng of the situation at hand.

To all others:

Is it fair to interpreted the silence regarding my repeated question -- is there any social good to breast implants to indicate there is none?

[Guest]

To all others:

Is it fair to interpreted the silence regarding my repeated question -- is there any social good to breast implants to indicate there is none?

Hiya dash, I answered it above.

[UrbanFool]

is there any social good to breast implants to indicate there is none?

Honestly, I'm not sure if I understand this question.

I think that someone with newfound confidence in themselves would probably be of benefit in general. Even if that confidence came from artificial means. You can tell someone to be accepting of their imperfect body and that God only cares about their souls until you're blue in the face, but you can't MAKE someone feel good about themselves.

[yorkiebeebs]

Annewandering and Yorkiibbebs:

Your voice and thougths are alsways welcome. However, I would suggest you read through the various threads to gain a more accurate understanding of the question at hand because the questions you pose have already been answered. Anatess has accurately answered them also in her last post -- but take the time to read the entire thread because it will prove an in-depth understanidng of the situation at hand.

To all others:

Is it fair to interpreted the silence regarding my repeated question -- is there any social good to breast implants to indicate there is none?

My apologies

[beefche]

Now again, these women should always be welcome in church because Church is a hospital for sinners, but these women should also be thinking about how their actions do affect others, that piece of cognitive information should be part of the decision making process. Being Christ-like is about being aware of others and trying to uplift them, knowing we all have human struggles we all deal with. It is much more than simply “personal choices” and “weak people” – it is personal choices with a social awareness of how our own actions affect others that should be at the core of such decision making (e.g., how might me getting a breast implant affect other people) – thus balancing personal responsibility with social responsibility. And if you do not think the social environment does not affect you, just look at your ethnic dress and ask yourself why you do not wear the ethnic dress of people in the Middle East.

So, how do you propose to tell these women to stop being so selfish and think of others before they have surgery for a body part that is no one's business but their own, their husband's and God's?

As a ward member, I am NOT about to get up in testimony meeting and "bear" testimony that my chest is just great and I don't need to enhance it like some sisters in my ward have done. And I'm sure the bishop won't be having a 5th Sunday meeting on body modification.

Elder Holland spoke on beauty and spoke specifically to women of the church regarding true beauty. IIRC, he mentioned body enhancements as something that is unnecessary when a woman understands her worth.

While I understand your point about how our social environment can be used for good or evil, I sincerely think that to try to do anything on a personal level is inappropriate.

[Seminarysnoozer]

Are you from San Diego area? Sounds like my local ward.

haha, mine too .... and I'm in San Diego too,

[Seminarysnoozer]

To all others:

Is it fair to interpreted the silence regarding my repeated question -- is there any social good to breast implants to indicate there is none?

I know two LDS plastic surgeons who I believe pay a full tithing ... if you believe in the trickle down theory.

[Connie]

Oh, i'm so glad this thread is still open. I thought by now it would have run its course. But i have to ask. Do you think my ward would suffer all sorts of negative effects if i got a nose job. Because i was thinking that they would support me in such a noble cause. Perhaps even donating some needed funds. What do you all think?

[pam]

Please leave the moderating to moderators. Thread closed.