K9 and IPad 2

[JaneDoe]

Does anyone know if it is possible to have K9 installed on the IPad 2? My husband would like an IPad for school, but we have to have some sort of filter installed on it. I have K9 on our PC now, and I love it!

[FunkyTown]

I'm puzzled.

Why does he want to have an iPad for school? Why not get a thin and portable laptop?

Is there something specifically that draws him to something that has to constantly be cleaned to prevent a smeary screen, can't do Flash and is essentially nothing more than a well marketed, oversized cell phone that can't make phone calls?

[dahlia]

I started to address the technical issue, thinking that you wanted a filter on your child's machine - but you want a filter on your HUSBAND's computer? Why? Did you agree to do this between the two of you or is this an attempt to control what he does online?

As to a machine for school, I think a mini laptop is a good buy - cheaper than an iPAD, regular keyboard, lighter to carry around, and a decent sized screen. I teach at the college level and find that many of my students have scaled down from the massive MACs they used to tote to a mini. I gave my mini to my son for school.

I use an iPad for teaching. I have all the class readings on it, syllabus, etc. Since I am not writing very much during class, the on-screen keyboard is enough for me. I've taken notes in conferences with it, but I don't know if I'd want to do it for long classes or study sessions. I have a keyboard docking station for the iPad, but it's heavy as heck and I don't carry it around with me. You'd also need to buy a protective cover for it, whereas with the mini, you can slip that in a backpack w/o one if necessary. The other issue is that you can multitask with the mini, but not with the iPad - I have to get out of the reading, for example, and into a notes app, then back again. You aren't just opening new tabs on the browser bar.

If you have the money, I'd get both, but that's just me.

[skippy740]

Does anyone know if it is possible to have K9 installed on the IPad 2? My husband would like an IPad for school, but we have to have some sort of filter installed on it. I have K9 on our PC now, and I love it!

If you go:

K9 Web Protection - Free Internet Filter and Parental Control Software | Free Internet Filtering and Parental Controls Software

You'll see a link for "iPhone, iPod, iPad". That link will take you here:

K9 Web Protection Browser for iPhone, iPod touch, and iPad on the iTunes App Store

[Guest FixingTheWrongs]

I third a small laptop or netbook or even a tablet PC. You'll get a full OS and keyboard and ether M$ Office or OpenOffice plus save some money. I havn't owned a Ipad so I don't know for sure but they just don't look like a device that would let one be fully productive. More like a play thing for surfing the web.

[dahlia]

I third a small laptop or netbook or even a tablet PC. You'll get a full OS and keyboard and ether M$ Office or OpenOffice plus save some money. I havn't owned a Ipad so I don't know for sure but they just don't look like a device that would let one be fully productive. More like a play thing for surfing the web.

It took me awhile to learn which apps would work for my needs, but now that I have, my iPad is much more than a plaything (which admittedly it was for the first few months). I can do substantive work on it, and the ability to have all of the readings for my classes in something as light as the iPad, compared to the huge notebooks I used to lug around, is fantastic.

It also has Kindle and you can get a Netflix app, so I can read books and watch movies when I get tired of doing work.

Still, for carrying around campus and hard daily work (excel, long papers, etc.) I'd get a mini.

[JaneDoe]

We already have a laptop. It's our only computer that we use right now. We were thinking about purchasing the Ipad since there are a lot of useful apps. Apparently there are apps out there to help with referencing research papers. And as far as the filter issue goes, this is his idea since he has an addiction to pornography. I am here to help and support him.

[dahlia]

Apparently there are apps out there to help with referencing research papers.

What did you have in mind here? Something like Endnote or Zotero that can help with formatting references? Something else?

[Blackmarch]

I'm puzzled.

Why does he want to have an iPad for school? Why not get a thin and portable laptop?

Is there something specifically that draws him to something that has to constantly be cleaned to prevent a smeary screen, can't do Flash and is essentially nothing more than a well marketed, oversized cell phone that can't make phone calls?

Phones are too small and laptops are too bulky... And slow to navigate. Tablets are niche items if you fall into that niche then they are awesome... If not then its no more than a toy or waste item.

For many situations for a student, tablet is abetter choice. Now if you have to crank out code on the fly or do heavy database text projcts a lot on the fly id recommend getting a laptop.

If you want something for media browsing, note taking, book reading, organizing... go tablet

[FunkyTown]

Phones are too small and laptops are too bulky... And slow to navigate. Tablets are niche items if you fall into that niche then they are awesome... If not then its no more than a toy or waste item.

For many situations for a student, tablet is abetter choice. Now if you have to crank out code on the fly or do heavy database text projcts a lot on the fly id recommend getting a laptop.

If you want something for media browsing, note taking, book reading, organizing... go tablet

There are laptops you can get cheaper than the iPad, with much more functionality, that is roughly the same size.

The iPad is 9.5 inches for the screen and 1.5 lbs.

The iUnika Gyy laptop has an 8 inch screen and weighs 1.5 lbs.

Cost for iPad: $499

Cost of iUnika: $200.

Or maybe you want something a little bigger:

Asus Eee: 1.5 lbs and 9 inch screen.

Cost: $399.

Not only are both of those devices the same weight and roughly the same size, both those devices are cheaper and can use more applications. Microsoft Office for note taking? Done. Flash for more website interactivity? Done.

The iPad is really just a great marketing ploy. Any research will show that a laptop can do anything the iPad can, only better.

If you want to buy it, go nuts. Just know that it won't have the functionality of a laptop, will be more expensive, and will require constant cleaning.

[JaneDoe]

What did you have in mind here? Something like Endnote or Zotero that can help with formatting references? Something else?

EasyBib is a free app that you can enter the ISBN number of the book, and it will do all the APA citing work for you.

[JaneDoe]

There are laptops you can get cheaper than the iPad, with much more functionality, that is roughly the same size.

The iPad is 9.5 inches for the screen and 1.5 lbs.

The iUnika Gyy laptop has an 8 inch screen and weighs 1.5 lbs.

Cost for iPad: $499

Cost of iUnika: $200.

Or maybe you want something a little bigger:

Asus Eee: 1.5 lbs and 9 inch screen.

Cost: $399.

Not only are both of those devices the same weight and roughly the same size, both those devices are cheaper and can use more applications. Microsoft Office for note taking? Done. Flash for more website interactivity? Done.

The iPad is really just a great marketing ploy. Any research will show that a laptop can do anything the iPad can, only better.

If you want to buy it, go nuts. Just know that it won't have the functionality of a laptop, will be more expensive, and will require constant cleaning.

Thank you for doing a cost comparision for the two. Honestly, I think I'm excited to get an IPad because of all the different apps there are out there. It will also be easy for my husband to have research up on the IPad while he is writing papers on the laptop. As long as we have a good filter installed, I think we'll be ok as far as the pornography issue goes.

[miztrniceguy]

My wife has an iPad. She got it primarily to verify her ebook formatting she does for her clients is working right.

I have an Asus Transformer tablet that runs flash, and now even streams Netflix. It is one of the top rated tablet for students.

My wife is jealous of my tablet, I am not jealous of hers.

[FunkyTown]

Thank you for doing a cost comparision for the two. Honestly, I think I'm excited to get an IPad because of all the different apps there are out there. It will also be easy for my husband to have research up on the IPad while he is writing papers on the laptop. As long as we have a good filter installed, I think we'll be ok as far as the pornography issue goes.

The iPad has 60, 000 apps. Pretty solid. The iPhone has over 300, 000.

There are literally billions of applications for a Windows laptop. Literally billions.

S'funny. Apple is so good at marketing that most people don't realize that 'Apps' is short for 'Applications'. If you hit ctrl-alt-del and choose 'Task manager'. You can see how many applications are running on your computer even as we speak.

And yet, Steve Jobs says 'Apps' and suddenly, the iPad becomes this incredible piece of technology.

[skippy740]

Now, if you click the 2nd tab that says "processes"... aren't all of those "apps" as well? Each one IS a program of some kind.

[Blackmarch]

There are laptops you can get cheaper than the iPad, with much more functionality, that is roughly the same size.

The iPad is 9.5 inches for the screen and 1.5 lbs.

The iUnika Gyy laptop has an 8 inch screen and weighs 1.5 lbs.

Cost for iPad: $499

Cost of iUnika: $200.

Or maybe you want something a little bigger:

Asus Eee: 1.5 lbs and 9 inch screen.

Cost: $399.

Not only are both of those devices the same weight and roughly the same size, both those devices are cheaper and can use more applications. Microsoft Office for note taking? Done. Flash for more website interactivity? Done.

The iPad is really just a great marketing ploy. Any research will show that a laptop can do anything the iPad can, only better.

If you want to buy it, go nuts. Just know that it won't have the functionality of a laptop, will be more expensive, and will require constant cleaning.

I have a laptop that isn't much bigger than my tablet, and ive also used those micro laptops/netbooks that take up less space.... Out of my experience is that for the things i stated previously a tablet is much better geared and streamlined for- most people dont do everything, they do a few things constantly ... Like me for me a tablet was worth the extra couple hundred. But for my roomie who does programming and likes to tweak everything a tablet would be a terrible choice.

While linux and windows have a lot of power they also have a lot of headaches that come with them. The difference is like between working in a machine shop and working in an office.

[Blackmarch]

The iPad has 60, 000 apps. Pretty solid. The iPhone has over 300, 000.

There are literally billions of applications for a Windows laptop. Literally billions.

S'funny. Apple is so good at marketing that most people don't realize that 'Apps' is short for 'Applications'. If you hit ctrl-alt-del and choose 'Task manager'. You can see how many applications are running on your computer even as we speak

And yet, Steve Jobs says 'Apps' and suddenly, the iPad becomes this incredible piece of technology.

if you want flexibility ditch wndows and go linux.

[Mahone]

I must say, I'm very inclined to agree with funkytown. While I found the iphone useful due to its portability, the ipad just seems pointless to me, so I never purchased one. However about two months ago, I had to bring one home from work as I was researching into the best ways to manage them centrally (incidentally there is practically nothing, once again apple have neglected the corporate sector). Due to us moving buildings at work, I haven't bothered taking it back yet. But have I used it in any way since I concluded my testing? No, it's just been sitting in my drawer. To me, it just doesn't seem to bring anything new to the table. If I wanted to carry the ipad around with me, I may as well just carry around my macbook air as it's just as inconvenient.

Leaving me with a choice of the macbook air and ipad? Well obviously I'd chose the macbook. It can do everything the ipad can, but far more on top of that - I became bored with the ipad in 5 minutes. Not to mention I can modify system files at will on my macbook, and I don't have to deal with lack of certain technologies (limited VPN choices, flash etc.) It's all very well and good saying you don't need the technology apple tell you you're not allowed to have, but you're still potentially disabling yourself a few months down the line. When we bought the ipads in at work, it was fine to set each one up manually as we only had about 20 or 30. But an educated guess tells me this will expand considerably over the next year, and we are going to be expected to manage them. In this situation, I'm going to have to spend a lot of time working around apples lack of support in this area - the only software they have made for this purpose is very limited.

Maybe I'm a boring old sod that spends way too much time in corporate IT, but I do prefer new devices to bring something new in terms of functionality and usefulness, not just aesthetics.

Edited August 28, 2011 by Mahone

[FunkyTown]

if you want flexibility ditch wndows and go linux.

Depends on what you mean by 'Flexibility'.

If by 'Flexibility', you mean you want to use as many applications as possible, Windows is still what you want.

If by 'Flexibility', you mean 'Reliability', then Linux is okay.

I worked for a company that walled off a room. They accidentally left an old Groupwise machine running. Six years, that room was walled off. When they opened the room, the Groupwise machine was still running. That is just awesome.

[Mahone]

I worked for a company that walled off a room. They accidentally left an old Groupwise machine running. Six years, that room was walled off. When they opened the room, the Groupwise machine was still running. That is just awesome.

To be honest, it depends more on the hardware that the operating system is running on, and the environment of the room the machine is running in. If you have two identical HP Proliant servers running side by side, one with windows server 2008 R2 and one with the latest edition of Fedora, both of them configured correctly and in a reasonably cool room with minimal temperature fluctuations, I'd expect them to both run happily without any kind of human interference for several years.

Because it was still running, it shows a greater achievement of the hardware than the software.

[FunkyTown]

To be honest, it depends more on the hardware that the operating system is running on, and the environment of the room the machine is running in. If you have two identical HP Proliant servers running side by side, one with windows server 2008 R2 and one with the latest edition of Fedora, both of them configured correctly and in a reasonably cool room with minimal temperature fluctuations, I'd expect them to both run happily without any kind of human interference for several years.

Because it was still running, it shows a greater achievement of the hardware than the software.

This was back in 97. I dare you to set up a Windows 97 machine and leave the machine running for 5 years with no restarts and no fatal errors.

[Vort]

This was back in 97. I dare you to set up a Windows 97 machine and leave the machine running for 5 years with no restarts and no fatal errors.

For that matter, I dare you to set up a Windows 97 machine. Go ahead. I dare you.

[beefche]

Is he going to stick his tongue on a frozen lamp post, too?

[Dravin]

Is he going to stick his tongue on a frozen lamp post, too?

Maybe after he licks a running fan's blade?

[FunkyTown]

Hahah. He was actually poking fun at me for saying 'Windows 97' when, in fact, it was 'Windows 98'.

It's been 13 years. I blame it on confusing Windows 7 and Windows 98 in my brain.