General Conference Oldies but Goodies

[Just_A_Guy]

So, I recently had to replace a car, and the replacement car (I won't call it "new") has a radio with ability to play mp3s.  So, I made a goal that over the next couple years I want to listen to every Conference address given by an apostle in my lifetime (beginning with the April 1980 Conference).  So, every now and again, I'll post something that I find particularly interesting.

 

For today:  Ever wonder what would happen if, during the sustaining of Church officers, someone stood up and said "no"?

 

Here's what happens.

 

Also:  A very thought-provoking discourse from Mark E. Petersen.  (Reading this talk doesn't do it justice; you've got to listen to it.)  This reminded me of TheFolkProphet's recent thread about bluntness.  I don't think the message has changed; but people just don't seem to talk this way in Conference anymore.

[Wingnut]

Your links just circle back to this thread.  I noticed it yesterday also with someone else's post as well.  Kind-of a "how do you keep an idiot busy?" circle.

[Just_A_Guy]

Thanks, Wingers.  I think I have it fixed--let me know if not.

[The Folk Prophet]

Just curious. Why from the 80s? As they have them all the way back to '71 on lds.org.... Like I said, just curious.

[Just_A_Guy]

My thought, I guess, is that I was curious as to what my parents were hearing when I was a little guy. I was born in December 1979--so I started with the next conference (Apr 1980).

[Wingnut]

Looks like they're fixed now.

[The Folk Prophet]

Also:  A very thought-provoking discourse from Mark E. Petersen.  (Reading this talk doesn't do it justice; you've got to listen to it.)  This reminded me of TheFolkProphet's recent thread about bluntness.  I don't think the message has changed; but people just don't seem to talk this way in Conference anymore.

 

It's almost hard to put a finger on why. The message is the same. But there's something subtle in the difference of how it's said. Of course there are obvious things like:

 

Is it too much to teach our children that it is better to die in defense of virtue than to lose it?

 

These sorts of sentiments are specifically called out as promoting suicide in today's day and age.

 

I enjoyed this talk, btw. Thanks.

 

I particularly liked: 

 

Have you a precious child? Would you save his soul? Would you fight to protect him from immorality, pornography, liquor, tobacco, and drugs? Do you shield him from evil companions?

How vigorously do you fight? Do you go all out for your child, or don’t you love him that much? Would you try as hard to save him from sin as you would to save him from drowning or from fire? If not, why not?

[The Folk Prophet]

For today:  Ever wonder what would happen if, during the sustaining of Church officers, someone stood up and said "no"?

 

Here's what happens.

 

That was hilarious. I wonder if they would have responded that way if the votes were silent instead of ridiculously vocal.

[Just_A_Guy]

I am on my iPad, so I don\'t know if this link will post properly with the new forum; but you might also enjoy the sustaining at the October 1977 conference (skip to the end of the transcript). Sadly, no audio/video for that session. Also, President Tanner had some additional remarks on the process during the sustainings at the April 1978 conference.

https://www.lds.org/general-conference/1977/10/the-sustaining-of-church-officers?lang=eng

[Lakumi]

For me, the earlier the more interesting. As my love of history often is the basis for further learning I often look up talks from early church leaders, so while I was only born in 1989, (starting at the 1990 General Conferance for me, just sounds...I donno, not that long ago lol)

[The Folk Prophet]

I was born in '71 -- which is as far as they currently go back on LDS .org. I have google/youtubed some older talks which were entirely fascinating (George Albert Smith, for example). They don't talk the same nowadays. :) (George Albert Smith was unique anyhow. In some ways more like an old-school Christian preacher).

[Str8Shooter]

I feel these kinds of disruptions are much more uplifting:

 

https://www.lds.org/general-conference/1979/04/fortify-your-homes-against-evil?lang=eng&query=my+beloved+brothers+and+sisters+spencer+kimball

 

I'll try to find the one where Ezra Taft Benson is hitting LeGrand Richards on the leg with a cane, trying to get him to end his talk because it was going overtime.

 

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Found it:   https://www.lds.org/general-conference/1982/04/what-the-gospel-teaches?lang=eng&query=I'm+proud+to+be+a+member

 

I recommend the whole talk, but go to 18:15 and 19:45 (roughly).  

 

I love watching the conference talks, old and new.  They are edifying and sometimes a bit entertaining, but always great things to watch.  

[Just_A_Guy]

Incidentally, in E. Petersen's talk, did you catch the ad-libbed "or doncha love them that much?" that immediately followed the questions TFP quoted above?

Old-school Christian preacher, indeed.

[The Folk Prophet]

Incidentally, in E. Petersen's talk, did you catch the ad-libbed "or doncha love them that much?" that immediately followed the questions TFP quoted above?

Old-school Christian preacher, indeed.

 

Self quote as a response (see bolded):

 

It's almost hard to put a finger on why. The message is the same. But there's something subtle in the difference of how it's said. Of course there are obvious things like:

 

Is it too much to teach our children that it is better to die in defense of virtue than to lose it?

 

These sorts of sentiments are specifically called out as promoting suicide in today's day and age.

 

I enjoyed this talk, btw. Thanks.

 

I particularly liked: 

 

Have you a precious child? Would you save his soul? Would you fight to protect him from immorality, pornography, liquor, tobacco, and drugs? Do you shield him from evil companions?

How vigorously do you fight? Do you go all out for your child, or don’t you love him that much? Would you try as hard to save him from sin as you would to save him from drowning or from fire? If not, why not?

[Lakumi]

I was born in '71 -- which is as far as they currently go back on LDS .org. I have google/youtubed some older talks which were entirely fascinating (George Albert Smith, for example). They don't talk the same nowadays. :) (George Albert Smith was unique anyhow. In some ways more like an old-school Christian preacher).

youtube has some neat gems, here's George Albert Smith, since you started this conversation about him.

[Just_A_Guy]

OK, JAG will now be taking a hiatus to work on his reading comprehension skills. 

[The Folk Prophet]

OK, JAG will now be taking a hiatus to work on his reading comprehension skills. 

 

Blame TFP for his convoluted writing and formatting styles.

[pam]

Ask Gramps posted a response to a question on the sustaining of church leaders just today.

 

http://askgramps.org/23892/happens-cant-sustain-church-leader