Jojo Bags Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Take a look and see if you qualify for being a religious extremist. Quote What Makes Someone A Religious Extremist? CATEGORY 1 EXTREMISM Widely Considered to be Extreme 80%+ of US adults believe this is “very” or “somewhat” extreme Use religion to justify violence Refuse standard medical care for their children Refuse to serve someone because the customer's lifestyle conflicts with their beliefs CATEGORY 2 EXTREMISM 50% to 79% think is is “very” or “somewhat” extreme Demonstrate outside an organization they consider immoral Preach a religious message in a public place Attempt to convert others to their faith Teaching their children that sexual relationships between people of the same sex is morally wrong Distribute religious material door-to-door Protest government policies that conflict with their religion CATEGORY 3 EXTREMISM Often Considered to be Extreme 20% to 49% say this is 'very” or “somewhat” extreme Pray in a special language, often called speaking in tongues Quit a good paying job to pursue mission work in another country Wear special clothes or head coverings for religious observance Adhere to special dietary restrictions for religious reasons Fast or refrain from food for a period of time Wait until marriage to have sex CATEFORY 4 EXTREMISM Sometimes Considered to be Extreme 6% to 19% indicate this is “very” or “somewhat” extreme Read the Koran (or Qu'ran) silently in a public place Regularly donate money to a religious community (tithing) Abstain from alcohol or tobacco for religious reasons Read the Bible silently in a public place Attend church, synagogue, or temple on a weekly basis Volunteer to help people in need Source: Barra Group (August 2015) www.barra.org/goodfaith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David13 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) So, in other words, any person of religion is an "extremist". What group is this? The National Atheist Alliance? Why didn't they just label anyone with any religion as a terrorist? Tho' I will say there is something a bit high on that first one, use religion to justify violence. That would describe any Moose Limb. dc (I do consider myself a redneck/American or redneck/Mormon or redneck at anything I do. Redneck/Motorcycle Rider.) Edited March 12, 2016 by David13 Bad Karma and Blackmarch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Is this from the same people who say I'm a communist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David13 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, Eowyn said: Is this from the same people who say I'm a communist? Who said you were a communist? I missed that one. dc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jojo Bags Posted March 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, Eowyn said: Is this from the same people who say I'm a communist? Nope. Elder Andersen, and Presidents Benson and Lee would be extremists, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Some survey JoJo posted awhile back that pointed to pretty much everyone as communist, or commie sympathizers. JoJo seems to believe that most LDS people are communist, as well. I guess we're all religious extremist communists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 10 minutes ago, Eowyn said: Is this from the same people who say I'm a communist? Next you'll be wearing pink(o)! (just joking) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, zil said: Next you'll be wearing pink(o)! (just joking) I'm wearing a Doctor Who shirt right now, but it has a Union Jack overlay. What does that mean?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Did you say *unions*?! I don't think I can take any more shock tonight. (It probably means you're a total geek. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jojo Bags Posted March 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Eowyn said: Some survey JoJo posted awhile back that pointed to pretty much everyone as communist, or commie sympathizers. JoJo seems to believe that most LDS people are communist, as well. I guess we're all religious extremist communists? How did you come to that conclusion? You've simply made a number of incorrect assumptions without asking any clarifying questions. The fact is that many LDS are deceived into believing in some part of the communist manifesto. I'm reading and quoting from prophets and general authorities of the Church, all of whom condemn socialism/communism. All those on food stamps, WIC, Medicaid, etc., are deceived into thinking it's OK to accept those programs and those programs are part of socialism/communism. Being deceived doesn't necessarily make a person a communist; it just means they are deceived. Edited March 12, 2016 by Jojo Bags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 3 hours ago, Eowyn said: I'm wearing a Doctor Who shirt right now, but it has a Union Jack overlay. What does that mean?? It means you've probably read "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy". So don't panic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 3 hours ago, zil said: Next you'll be wearing pink(o)! (just joking) Actually everyone, the marriage between Zil and I ended because I couldn't deal with her hideous leftism. Seriously, she makes me look like I belong in the John Birch society! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, MormonGator said: Actually everyone, the marriage between Zil and I ended because I couldn't deal with her hideous leftism. Seriously, she makes me look like I belong in the John Birch society! It's not hard to make someone look like what they are, wingnut! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, zil said: It's not hard to make someone look like what they are, wingnut! Hey! You are late on spousal support girl! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, MormonGator said: Hey! You are late on spousal support girl! I'll make a leftie of you yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, zil said: I'll make a leftie of you yet! :; snickers :: my brother is a big Sanders supporter and I voted for the libertarian-republican candidate in 2008 and 2012. Even though we differ politically he's still one of my best friends and we text all the time. Go figure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 15 hours ago, Eowyn said: I'm wearing a Doctor Who shirt right now, but it has a Union Jack overlay. What does that mean?? So... The Doctor is on first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Karma Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 On 3/12/2016 at 4:03 PM, David13 said: So, in other words, any person of religion is an "extremist". What group is this? The National Atheist Alliance? Why didn't they just label anyone with any religion as a terrorist? Tho' I will say there is something a bit high on that first one, use religion to justify violence. That would describe any Moose Limb. dc (I do consider myself a redneck/American or redneck/Mormon or redneck at anything I do. Redneck/Motorcycle Rider.) Hi! I'm a MORMON REDNECK BIKER! (I sure am!) I ride an 01 Softail, 17 inch apes, thunderheader exhaust. AND I'm a redneck. I'm first and foremost a MORMON (I'm one of those who are very comfortable being called a MORMON). I fish, hunt, own a chainsaw, a hoof pick, do missionary work, heck, I wear religious garments, I even shine up pretty well enough for 'em to let me into a temple. I think men trying to be women is verbotten as well as women trying to be men is verbotten. I also stand for the pledge of allegiance, salute the flag, adhere to special dietary customs for religious reasons and I don't drink alcohol or use tobacco. The missus and I aren't just hitched, we got sealed too! I make a mean lemonade, know how to churn butter, make ice cream, so, I guess I'm a redneck biker religious extremist. Darn it, dang it, fetch! Well, H eee double hockeysticks! Who knew? I can't take me anywhere, shucks! Does this mean those funny NSA fellers are doing to stick me on that watch list of theirs? Kara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 If they can label the tea party as a terrorist organization because of small govt ideals, and they label Mormons a cult because we disbelieve the trinity, then any person of faith will be an extremist to someone who is not. The issue is not the results of these polls or what these labels mean. The issue is that we now live in a time that if anyone disagrees with us we're enemies and we must NEVER consider that there is any good in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prisonchaplain Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 (edited) To the original question: Yes! And...in relation to the topic of religion and the "extremism" label, I quote the Honorable Senator Barry Goldwater: Extremism, in the defense of liberty, is no vice. Edited March 13, 2016 by prisonchaplain David13, Jojo Bags and LeSellers 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unixknight Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Step 1: Label all religious people "extremist" Step 2: Use that label to justify Government surveillance of those groups Step 3: Equate extremism with domestic terrorism Step 4: Begin placing members of these groups on terrorist watch lists, no-fly lists, refuse applications for firearm purchases, etc. Step 5: Propose restrictive laws to limit the rights of said individuals Step 6: Vilify organized religious groups, cancel tax-exempt status, associate with criminal activity Step 7: Relax, and let the media and public outrage do the work for you. Kara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ffenix Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 53 minutes ago, unixknight said: Step 1: Label all religious people "extremist" Step 2: Use that label to justify Government surveillance of those groups Step 3: Equate extremism with domestic terrorism Step 4: Begin placing members of these groups on terrorist watch lists, no-fly lists, refuse applications for firearm purchases, etc. Step 5: Propose restrictive laws to limit the rights of said individuals Step 6: Vilify organized religious groups, cancel tax-exempt status, associate with criminal activity Step 7: Relax, and let the media and public outrage do the work for you. you forgot step eight: Make sure none of the members of said organization have influential friends, unless you can take their friends down with them. I'm probably wrong about which step that one is though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroads Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 So, if a portion of the population still finds the man quietly reading his religious text at the subway station a religious extremist... ... what does a non-extremist practicioner of religion look like? beefche 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Backroads said: So, if a portion of the population still finds the man quietly reading his religious text at the subway station a religious extremist... ... what does a non-extremist practicioner of religion look like? Well said. I used to read my bible openly in very secular UNH and no one cared. That was only about ten years ago, so there is hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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