Can everyone become God?

[brotherofJared]

5 minutes ago, Rob Osborn said:

Spirit prison is an actual place separate from paradise where the righteous are.

Have you been there? Probably not. Tell me, how is it that the righteous (which is a horrible word btw), teach those in prison if they are separated? They are no more separated from each other than Catholics are from Mormons in mortality. They simply don't go where we go and we don't go where they go, but we do travel where we both go and preach the gospel where it is permitted.

The sociality which exists here will also exist in heaven, why would it be any different in the spirit world. Prison and Paradise are states of mind and result from the choices we make. IMO. I haven't been there. You seem to be more sure of yourself that I am of myself. So please, enlighten me.

[The Folk Prophet]

48 minutes ago, brotherofJared said:

 righteous (which is a horrible word btw)

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[brotherofJared]

10 minutes ago, The Folk Prophet said:

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It goes hand in hand with "there is none good, but one." There is none righteous, but one. God. When men try to put this title on, no sooner do they wear it than they prove themselves unworthy of it.There are only men that do good and if they should endure to the end in doing good, then let God call them righteous and I will accept it.

Edited June 8, 2017 by brotherofJared

[Rob Osborn]

5 hours ago, brotherofJared said:

Have you been there? Probably not. Tell me, how is it that the righteous (which is a horrible word btw), teach those in prison if they are separated? They are no more separated from each other than Catholics are from Mormons in mortality. They simply don't go where we go and we don't go where they go, but we do travel where we both go and preach the gospel where it is permitted.

The sociality which exists here will also exist in heaven, why would it be any different in the spirit world. Prison and Paradise are states of mind and result from the choices we make. IMO. I haven't been there. You seem to be more sure of yourself that I am of myself. So please, enlighten me.

20 But unto the wicked he did not go, and among the ungodly and the unrepentant who had defiled themselves while in the flesh, his voice was not raised;
21 Neither did the rebellious who rejected the testimonies and the warnings of the ancient prophets behold his presence, nor look upon his face.
22 Where these were, darkness reigned, but among the righteous there was peace; (D&C 138:20-22)

I personally have had dreams about the spirit world and there is an actual separation of places between paradise and hell. In hell it is actually physically dark, a very dark and dingy place. The spirits of the righteous, clothed in power and authority, actually take light with them into the darkness to teach the captives. Some spirits are ready and come into the light and are receptive, others however, still flee and hide from the light. One thing is for certain though, they themselces have no power to come into paradise on their own to be embraced by Gods love and light. Their only path is through obedience to the laws and ordinances of the gospel. And even then after that, only after they have paid the penalty required by justice and mercy are they actually released and allowed to go into paradise.

[The Folk Prophet]

11 hours ago, brotherofJared said:

It goes hand in hand with "there is none good, but one." There is none righteous, but one. God. When men try to put this title on, no sooner do they wear it than they prove themselves unworthy of it.There are only men that do good and if they should endure to the end in doing good, then let God call them righteous and I will accept it.

It just seems a bit odd to call it a "horrible" word when that's the word the scriptures themselves use to refer to those in paradise.

[Guest]

And here I thought BoJ and RO would be best buddies.  I guess you never can tell.

Stream of consciousness time:

Wind of doctrine.

Unity of faith.

Ye have not chosen me.  But I have chosen you.

Keys to the kingdom.

By the voice of my servants.

Philosophies of men.

No man taketh this honor unto himself.

Edited June 8, 2017 by Guest

[brotherofJared]

3 hours ago, The Folk Prophet said:

It just seems a bit odd to call it a "horrible" word when that's the word the scriptures themselves use to refer to those in paradise.

That's an "after the fact" reference. In mortality, men use it to justify evil acts. They call themselves righteous, but they are not. When God calls a person righteous, then I'll accept it, but men are not very good judges of themselves and often times of others. The things we do can be seen to be righteous, but even in these instances, I'd prefer to call them good and not righteous.

When I objected parenthetically, I accepted the OP's use of the word but stated my dislike for it. I recognize that men want to be righteous and that most men strive to do good so that they can be. I debated within myself if it's use, in that context, was right and decided that I just didn't know and decided to note my objection and use the word they did. It is a pet peeve. I didn't mean to get into a dispute over it.

[JohnsonJones]

Late to the thread, but as has already been stated, the article is, especially that portion (#9) the opinion of the author.

That said, the author actually gives a pretty good summation of a non-member's understanding of the LDS church doctrines, and what I would consider a very unbiased summation of their understanding of LDS views.

My opinion is that his opinion is not that far off, TBH, but one should realize that if one accepts the temple work and it is able to be applied to them, that the individual, though dead, is then a "Mormon" which could paint the entire #9 into a slightly different light.