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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, goor_de said:

 

who guarantees that we will not relapse in the sky

Who guarantees that a baked cake will not suddenly revert back into a sodden mass of batter?

No one guarantees it. But it won’t happen, because the cake’s very nature has changed.  Batter just isn’t what the cake is anymore, just as selfishness/greed/lust/cruelty aren’t what an exalted being would be anymore.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Just_A_Guy said:

Who guarantees that a baked cake will not suddenly revert back into a sodden mass of batter?

No one guarantees it. But it won’t happen, because the cake’s very nature has changed.  Batter just isn’t what the cake is anymore, just as selfishness/greed/lust/cruelty aren’t what an exalted being would be anymore.

 

People are not a cake. they are already changing or the free will in the sky is turned off

Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, goor_de said:

 

People are not a cake. they are already changing or the free will in the sky is turned off

God isn’t a cake either.  Could *He* sin?  Doesn’t *He* have free will?

Are people unmoved movers?

Will they ever be so?

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, Just_A_Guy said:

Are people unmoved movers?

Will they ever be so?

 

if they can not sin anymore then they have no free will anymore ,or they can sin in heaven

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Posted
1 minute ago, goor_de said:

 

if they can not sin anymore then they have no free will anymore or they can sin in heaven

What if they *chose* to put themselves into a state where sin is no longer possible?

And, I’m still interested in hearing whether you think God Himself has free will.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Just_A_Guy said:

What if they *chose* to put themselves into a state where sin is no longer possible?

And, I’m still interested in hearing whether you think God Himself has free will.

 

if that's so easy. why not already in the pre-existence.

God had a free will. he is different

 

for example, AT and NT

Posted
12 minutes ago, goor_de said:

 

[1]. if that's so easy. why not already in the pre-existence.

[2] God had a free will. he is different

 

for example, AT and NT

1.  Why, indeed?

2.  Not that different, in LDS theology.

Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, Just_A_Guy said:

1.  Why, indeed?

2.  Not that different, in LDS theology.

 

because man has a free will, he can always decide otherwise so no guarantee

 

 

for nobody 


and for all eternity

 

 

How do you imagine that?

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Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, goor_de said:

 

because man has a free will, he can always decide otherwise so no guarantee

 

 

for nobody 


and for all eternity

 

 

How do you imagine that?

You’re (presumably) already a Mormon, which means you’ve talked to God and gotten a testimony.  And the religion to which you subscribe holds that mankind and God are not nearly as distinct from each other as you seem to insist on supposing that they are. Maybe you should ask God about it and actually ponder things for a couple of hours, instead of demanding spoon-fed answers and immediately and snottily dismissing anyone else’s good-faith take on the matter.

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Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, Just_A_Guy said:

You’re (presumably) already a Mormon, which means you’ve talked to God and gotten a testimony.  Maybe you should ask Him about it and actually ponder things for a while, instead of immediately and snottily dismissing anyone else’s good-faith take on the matter.

 

 

 

no no, it's not that easy

I only describe the consequences of the free will. Can man fall in the sky?

 

man can still fall in the sky ?

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, goor_de said:

 

who guarantees that we will not relapse in the sky

I'm not interested in answering questions on which we can only speculate. I trust God''s word though 

Posted
5 minutes ago, The Folk Prophet said:

I'm not interested in answering questions on which we can only speculate. I trust God''s word though 

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It is very important for eternity
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6 minutes ago, goor_de said:
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It is very important for eternity

Trusting in God? Why yes. Yes it is. 

Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, Just_A_Guy said:

As God is, man may become.

What do you think about 

 technology in the celestial world.
how different from the terrestial and telestial worlds
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Posted
2 minutes ago, Just_A_Guy said:

42.

 

There is technical progress, as on the earth

These are all important questions

 

for my progress where I want to go

Posted
10 minutes ago, goor_de said:

 

There is technical progress, as on the earth


These are all important questions

 

for my progress where I want to go

A partridge.  And a pear tree.

Or is it “in” a pear tree?

Posted
15 minutes ago, goor_de said:

do I write Chinese?

No, but frankly some of your posts come off as though you think we’ve been.  And it’s frankly it’s becoming a little irritating.

When people feel their sincere attempts to help are being treated flippantly, they are wont to respond in kind.  

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