zil Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 11 minutes ago, mordorbund said: @zil How do you feel about this word? I feel it is insufficiently pluralized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) echo Edited November 7, 2017 by zil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vort Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 hour ago, mordorbund said: 13 hours ago, mordorbund said: themself @zil How do you feel about this word? Jane Austen saw fit to use the singular "they", though admittedly she put it in the mouth of Mrs. Bennet, so perhaps that should be taken with a grain of salt. Nevertheless, I think "themself" perfectly exemplifies that daring Austen literary spirit. zil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 The original quote (with the missing comma added!): 14 hours ago, mordorbund said: Zil, hiding themself behind anonymity is the only thing keeping them safe. I suppose @mordorbund could have been referring only to @Fether, and been uncertain of Fether's gender (doesn't seem that hard to remember, plus, it's in his profile), and so was trying to use forms of "they" in place of "it" (cuz humans don't like being "it" for some reason). In which case, OK, fine, "themself". Personally, I'm in favor of rephrasing to avoid weird words, full pluralization and applying it generically to multiple people, or doing a bit of gender-research. 37 minutes ago, Vort said: Jane Austen saw fit to use the singular "they", though admittedly she put it in the mouth of Mrs. Bennet, so perhaps that should be taken with a grain of salt. Nevertheless, I think "themself" perfectly exemplifies that daring Austen literary spirit. But I could also go along with referring to mordorbund as "Jane" from now on. MordorJane? Janedorbund? Vort 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 26 minutes ago, zil said: The original quote (with the missing comma added!): Pretty sure the comma omission was intentional. Replace "themself" with "herself" and see if it doesn't scan okay without the comma. mordorbund 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Vort said: Pretty sure the comma omission was intentional. Replace "themself" with "herself" and see if it doesn't scan okay without the comma. Hmm. Well, my gender is easy enough to discover too... Intentional vagueness? Anywho, if your interpretation is correct, anonymity isn't the only thing keeping me safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, zil said: Hmm. Well, my gender is easy enough to discover too... Intentional vagueness? Anywho, if your interpretation is correct, anonymity isn't the only thing keeping me safe. You're missing the point. If we're trying to drive zil crazy, why would be bother specifying their gender? Maybe we can get them to think of themself as genderless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Just now, Vort said: You're missing the point. If we're trying to drive zil crazy, why would be bother specifying their gender? Maybe we can get them to think of themself as genderless. OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mordorbund Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 27 minutes ago, Vort said: Maybe we can get them to think of themself as genderless. I'll say it. @zil has no sex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 20 minutes ago, mordorbund said: I'll say it. @zil has no sex. Well, not since my husband died, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fether Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, zil said: I suppose @mordorbund could have been referring only to @Fether, and been uncertain of Fether's gender (doesn't seem that hard to remember, plus, it's in his profile), and so was trying to use forms of "they" in place of "it" (cuz humans don't like being "it" for some reason). All is Well, i identify as both 1 hour ago, zil said: Well, not since my husband died, anyway. Can i haha’ this??? Edited November 7, 2017 by Fether zil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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