The Divine Feminine. OR. Going Too Far. But I repeat myself.

[Guest]

https://forward.com/scribe/393778/the-first-story-in-the-bible-was-the-first-case-of-metoo/

Wow!  So, God is guilty of sexual harassment because he punished Eve for eating the forbidden fruit.

Calling good evil and evil good.  It is the way of today.

Edited February 13, 2018 by Guest

[Guest MormonGator]

Depressing. This takes away the accountability of Eve and treats her like a child. It has nothing to do with sexual harassment whatsoever. The Rabbi is way out there and has no idea what she's talking about. 

[zil]

Holy flaming ignorance, Batman!  Sigh.

[eVa]

Chrome wouldn't even let me read that link, it crashed as soon as it was clicked.

[anatess2]

Alas... the normal cycle of post modernism biting themselves in their own behinds.  And the absurdity continues to evade them.

[mordorbund]

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Here is a young, beautiful, intelligent, naked woman living in a state of Grace. She’s hungry, so she does the most natural thing in the world and eats a piece of fruit. For following her instincts, trusting herself, and nourishing her body, she is punished. Her punishment? She will never again feel safe in her nakedness. She will never again love her body. She will never again know her body as a place of sacred sovereignty.

“What have you done?” He God thunders. Eve wants to defend herself, but she is too ashamed to speak. Eve, our first mother whose name means the “mother of all living things,” is silenced

I'm finding she-Rabbi and he-I are in strong agreement.

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This God, this man-made figurehead of the patriarchy, is not my God. He is a fiction, a man-made myth

 

[eVa]

Society has been conditioned to blame someone...but this I agree is absurd.

[zil]

36 minutes ago, mordorbund said:

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Here is a young, beautiful, intelligent, naked woman living in a state of Grace. She’s hungry, so she does the most natural thing in the world and eats a piece of fruit. For following her instincts, trusting herself, and nourishing her body, she is punished. Her punishment? She will never again feel safe in her nakedness. She will never again love her body. She will never again know her body as a place of sacred sovereignty.

“What have you done?” He God thunders. Eve wants to defend herself, but she is too ashamed to speak. Eve, our first mother whose name means the “mother of all living things,” is silenced

I'm finding she-Rabbi and he-I are in strong agreement.

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This God, this man-made figurehead of the patriarchy, is not my God. He is a fiction, a man-made myth

 

I think we're all in agreement with the "that's a fiction" bit, but she seems to be saying the Bible teaches that fiction - it doesn't.  She's making up her very own fictional retelling of Biblical events as if she knows what Eve was thinking, what motivated Eve, etc. - she doesn't.  She seems to be teaching there was something unfair about Eve suffering the consequences of her choice - there wasn't.  So, while (part of) the conclusion might be agreeable, her path to get there certainly isn't (to me).

[mordorbund]

1 hour ago, zil said:

I think we're all in agreement with the "that's a fiction" bit, but she seems to be saying the Bible teaches that fiction - it doesn't.  She's making up her very own fictional retelling of Biblical events as if she knows what Eve was thinking, what motivated Eve, etc. - she doesn't.  She seems to be teaching there was something unfair about Eve suffering the consequences of her choice - there wasn't.  So, while (part of) the conclusion might be agreeable, her path to get there certainly isn't (to me).

I was thinking of @Traveler's debate with an athiest co-worker. Guess what!! I don't believe in that God either!

If I were to correct the quoted statement, I would make it read

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This God, this she-woman-made figurehead of the patriarchy she-woman fashioned, is not my God. He is a fiction, a she-woman-made myth, created for the purpose of this blog post.

 

[Traveler]

 

It is my belief that divine revelation (most certainly scripture) is symbolic.  That G-d and what he reveals to man is entirely focused (single threaded) and directly related to the Plan of Salvation.   I have concluded there are a great many truths that exist that at this point of our participation in the Plan of Salvation does not have direct relevance and will remove focus from our purpose. 

I am of the notion that Satan is not the liar many think.  His lies are not so much a matter of false information as it is a miss use of truth.  Divine truth is not so much built on a foundation of information and data as it is the very essence of virtue, love, compassion and sacrifice.  The Truth of G-d is both whole, holy and sacred.   When that which is sacred is filtered from “information” – the truth of it is lost.

We do not have the essential pieces to even discuss the detail eternal and sacred nature of feminine contributions that completes the reality of G-d.

 

The Traveler