Guest Godless Posted February 22, 2020 Report Posted February 22, 2020 6 hours ago, Scott said: Here's one that everyone knows, but it doesn't make that much sense: Yankee Doodle went to town A-Riding on a pony Stuck a feather in his cap And called it macaroni I recently learned that this song was originally written by the British to mock the colonists, who ended up embracing it and revising it into an anti-Brit anthem. Quote
Midwest LDS Posted February 22, 2020 Report Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Godless said: I recently learned that this song was originally written by the British to mock the colonists, who ended up embracing it and revising it into an anti-Brit anthem. Yep they were calling us bumpkins who thought we were sophisticated. This link describes it pretty well https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-macaroni-in-yankee-doodle-is-not-what-you-think " On returning from a Grand Tour (a then-standard trip across Continental Europe intended to deepen cultural knowledge), these young men brought to England a stylish sense of fashion consisting of large wigs and slim clothing as well as a penchant for the then-little-known Italian dish for which they were named. In England at large, the word “macaroni” took on a larger significance. To be “macaroni” was to be sophisticated, upper class, and worldly. In “Yankee Doodle,” then, the British were mocking what they perceived as the Americans’ lack of class. The first verse is satirical because a doodle—a simpleton—thinks that he can be macaroni—fashionable—simply by sticking a feather in his cap. In other words, he is out of touch with high society." Edited February 22, 2020 by Midwest LDS Quote
Ironhold Posted February 22, 2020 Report Posted February 22, 2020 13 hours ago, Scott said: I am the Walrus by the Beatles: From what I understand, John Lennon *deliberately* wrote it to be as nonsensical as possible to mess with someone who kept speculating on what the "real" meaning of the band's music was. Carborendum 1 Quote
Jamie123 Posted June 17, 2020 Author Report Posted June 17, 2020 I've found another: Lady Antebellum: "I remember telling you I loved you / The northern star rising above you". If by "northern star" she means Polaris, that's impossible - unless of course you're travelling rapidly northwards. Vort 1 Quote
Jamie123 Posted June 18, 2020 Author Report Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) And speaking of Lady Antebellum, they've now decided their name is politically incorrect. They're just plain "Lady A" now. (And don't you dare ask what the A stands for!) Utter nonsense. One can appreciate the elegance of the Antebellum South without approving of slavery - just as one can appreciate the culture and achievements of 5th Century Athens - or even pre-Norman Conquest England - without doing the same. Edited June 18, 2020 by Jamie123 Vort 1 Quote
Carborendum Posted June 19, 2020 Report Posted June 19, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 8:19 AM, Jamie123 said: 1. The Righteous Brothers: "You never close your eyes anymore when I kiss your lips." How would he even know this unless he kept his own eyes open? Sounds like he's lost some "loving feeling" of his own. There are other indicators. On 2/21/2020 at 8:19 AM, Jamie123 said: 2. Carly Simon: "I'll bet you think this song is about you." The song is about him! It can be about him without being in praise of him. It would be more a sign of vanity if he thought it wasn't about him, but about some other conceited man, and he's thinking "aren't I so wonderful not being vain like him?" Meh. I tend to think that most vain people do know that they are vain. They just don't think it's wrong when THEY do it. On 2/21/2020 at 8:19 AM, Jamie123 said: 3. Chris de Burgh: "Close the shutters, do not cry, there's a new moon in the sky." Earlier in the same song he told us that "a big fat moon is dancing on the sea". In the time it's taken him to sing 11 lines, the moon has gone through half its complete orbit. It depends on if it is literal or figurative. Ironically, it makes sense if it is literal. The moon is ALWAYS in the sky even when it is dancing on the sea. If it is figurative, it is an inconsistent metaphor. Bad, bad, bad... On 2/21/2020 at 8:19 AM, Jamie123 said: 4. REO Speedwagon: "And if I have to crawl upon the floor, come crashing through your door." How can you come crashing through a door if you're crawling on the floor? How would you get enough momentum up, shuffling on your hands and knees? Unless it was a very rotten door that just collapsed when you nudged it with your head. I always took these two statements to mean two things that he was willing to do -- not necessarily at the same time or in immediate succession. Compare to Weird Al's "One More Minute." Quote
Carborendum Posted June 19, 2020 Report Posted June 19, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 10:30 AM, Jamie123 said: I've thought of another one: 5. James Blunt: "She smiled at me on the subway / She was with another man / But I won't lose no sleep on that / 'Cause I've got a plan". In the very next verse he says: "And I don't know what to do / 'Cause I'll never be with you." He doesn't know what to do?? He just told us he had a plan!! Yeah, I don't think that someone who is celebrating drugs is going to make much sense. Quote
Carborendum Posted June 19, 2020 Report Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) On 2/21/2020 at 11:06 AM, Scott said: I am the Walrus by the Beatles: On 2/22/2020 at 12:09 AM, Ironhold said: From what I understand, John Lennon *deliberately* wrote it to be as nonsensical as possible to mess with someone who kept speculating on what the "real" meaning of the band's music was. I believe this to be one of the earliest examples of the "cut-up" method of lyric writing. They actually make millions off of this. Edited June 19, 2020 by Carborendum Quote
SilentOne Posted June 20, 2020 Report Posted June 20, 2020 I'm your only friend I'm not your only friend But I'm a little glowing friend But really I'm not actually your friend But I am Blue canary in the outlet by the light switch Who watches over you Make a little birdhouse in your soul Not to put too fine a point on it Say I'm the only bee in your bonnet Make a little birdhouse in your soul I have a secret to tell From my electrical well It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly My name is blue canary one note spelled l-I-t-e My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest ... There's a picture opposite meOf my primitive ancestryWhich stood on rocky shores and kept the beaches shipwreck freeThough I respect that a lotI'd be fired if that were my jobAfter killing Jason off and countless screaming ArgonautsBluebird of friendlinessLike guardian angels its always near ... (And while you're at itKeep the nightlight on inside theBirdhouse in your soul) Carborendum 1 Quote
Carborendum Posted June 20, 2020 Report Posted June 20, 2020 Mama pajama rolled out of bed And she ran to the police station When the papa found out, he began to shout And he started the investigation It's against the law, it was against the law What the mama saw, it was against the law Mama looked down and spit on the ground Every time my name gets mentioned The papa say, "Oy, if I get that boy I'm gonna stick him in the house of detention" Well I'm on my way I don't know where I'm goin' I'm on my way, I'm takin' my time But I don't know where Goodbye to Rosie, the Queen of Corona See you, me and Julio down by the schoolyard See you, me and Julio down by the schoolyard Whoa! In a couple of days they come and take me away But the press let the story leak And when the radical priest come to get me released We was all on the cover of Newsweek And I'm on my way I don't know where I'm goin' I'm on my way, I'm takin' my time But I don't know where Goodbye to Rosie, the Queen of Corona See you, me and Julio down by the schoolyard See you, me and Julio down by the schoolyard See you, me and Julio down by the schoolyard ****************************** Paul Simon was asked once,"What exactly was it that Mama saw?" Simon responded,"Something that was against the law, apparently." Quote
Ironhold Posted June 21, 2020 Report Posted June 21, 2020 19 hours ago, Carborendum said: Paul Simon was asked once,"What exactly was it that Mama saw?" Simon responded,"Something that was against the law, apparently." There's been active speculation as to just what took place, up to and including the pair having a homosexual encounter. Quote
Carborendum Posted June 21, 2020 Report Posted June 21, 2020 53 minutes ago, Ironhold said: There's been active speculation as to just what took place, up to and including the pair having a homosexual encounter. There is always speculation about songs. But when the songwriter didn't have anything in particular in mind, it kinda means that any interpretation simply reflects the personal biases of the listener. It was the same with the Beatles. They only wrote a few songs with any particular intended meanings behind them. Mostly, they just wrote what sounded good at the time. Then they'd sit back an wait for the fandom to come up with a million ideas. When they heard one that they all liked, they'd say,"Yeah, that sounds good. We'll go with that." Quote
Jeremy A Posted June 22, 2020 Report Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) I'm reminded of Paul and Linda McCartney's "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey." "Uncle Albert" makes some sense, but "Admiral Halsey" doesn't, and I love it. There's a scene in "Mr. Holland's Opus" where Richard Dreyfus' character talks about music and plays "Louie, Louie." I'm not sure which version. "Take these guys, for example. They can't sing, they play the same three notes over and over, . . . and I love it!" I believe he's talking about enjoying music when a student had trouble hitting one note. I could go on with a few more examples, some of which question their appropriateness, and others are misunderstood, which is a different topic. Edited June 22, 2020 by Jeremy A I forgot to put who sings the Uncle Albert song. Carborendum 1 Quote
Guest Scott Posted June 22, 2020 Report Posted June 22, 2020 Steal My Sunshine by Len. I admit that I kind of like the song, but I seriously have no idea what it's about. Either it doesn't make sense or I'm just missing the meaning: Hey, Matt Yeah, Tim? Hey, you talked to Marc lately? Uh, haven't really talked to him but he looks pretty, uh, down "He looks pretty, uh, down?" Yeah, well, maybe we should cheer him up then What do you, uh, suppose we should do? Well, does he like butter tarts? I was lying on the grass of Sunday morning of last week Indulging in my self-defeat My mind was thugged, all laced and bugged, all twisted, wrong and beat A comfortable three feet deep Now the fuzzy stare from not being there on a confusing morning week Impaired my tribal lunar speak And of course you can't become if you only say what you would have done So I missed a million miles of fun I know it's up for me (If you steal my sunshine) Making sure I'm not in too deep (If you steal my sunshine) Keeping versed and on my feet (If you steal my sunshine) Chad, come here, come here, come here Wow, look at her I know Man, I've never seen Sharon look so bad before I did once before, but this is pretty bad Yeah, what do you think she got up to last night? Well, I... Sharon, I love you! I was frying on the bench slide in the park across the street L-A-T-E-R that week My sticky paws were into making straws out of big fat slurpy treats An incredible eight-foot heap Now the funny glare to pay a gleaming tare in a staring under heat Involved an under usual feat And I'm not only among but I invite who I want to come So I missed a million miles of fun Quote
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