Over43

No. I think the wheels came off President Bush's cart a couple of years ago. But, that is the new warfare. It's not about two armies facing off at Stalingrad or Kursk. It's a small group of extremists who can cause chaos, affect market economies, take out 10 square city blocks with a suitcase bomb. (See Ian Fleming- Moonraker, M's dialogue) Terrorism is the new warfare. "Big" countries: the US, Russia, China probably (notice I said probably) won't square off and disintigrate each other. As long as the West refuses to cut the ties with mid-Eastern oil (easier said than done), the exremist groups that are being funded there will continue to thrive. To fight them won't take "armies" but well gathered intelligence, elite anti-terrorist units that might consist of no more than 20-50 individuals (or less, even single assassins), and the understanding of the American people that we need to be as ruthless towards them as they have more than willingly showed to be toward us. Where's Bond when we need him? Or Nicholai Hel? But we in the US are allowed to express our Patriotism in any way we choose. Cindy Sheehan, most of us regard her as nuts, but she lost a son in the mid-East, and now is an activist because of it. Is she unpatriotic? O43

I forgot Dominoes. I used to play a ton of Dominoes. Jon

I've tried Bridge (card game obviously) it drives me nuts. I'll play on-line occassionally, but really don't know what I'm doing. Jon

I wasn't sure where to put this since it is more leisure. But leisure time can be healthy time. So what board games do people play? I've started playing chess again. I have also played Pente, and am looking at giving Go a try. O43

What do they say? Two-three pounds a month, maybe a pound a week is good for weightloss? Lose, but lose carefully. O43

I used to love Utah, and then Money Magazine picked Utah Valley as one of the top places in America to live. (As someone has already stated.) And then the developers and real estate agents showed up. More homes, more cars, more people. People are fine, as long as I don't have to listen to their toilet flush while I live next to them. I live in a nice rural area now that is looking to go "big time". Too bad. Montana or the Dakotas are next. The way this works, who knows, I may end up in White Horse. Jon

I'm going to California tomorrow via the train. I take th shuttle to SLC, then board Amtrack. As always I am getting "pre trip" anxiety. I always get this. I go to Sun Valley for a conference and I'm on edge the day or to before. I take my wife to Jackson for the day and leave the kids at home, I get it. We went to the Caribbean a few years back, left the kids with my mother, you bet, I got it. I don't know if it's seperation anxiety from the family, or what? Anyway, it bugs the poo out of me. Jon

We have KBYU, I wish they'd broadcast the games via that outlet. I live 4 hours from Salt Lake (north) and we get the USC games, but not BYU games. Goofy. Jon

I was in Chicago in 1984 serving a mission when they lost the playoffs to the Padres. You could hear a pin drop in that city the next day. I can only imagine what it is like there today. I am learning to like the Dodgers. But, I still have to change the station every time some channel broadcasts Kirk Gibson's homerun off of Dennis Eckersley. Jon

Before I left the house to go play I thought, "Is this such a good thing?" Less than 5 minutes into the game I'm clutching my side. Personally I much prefer racquetball, but I don't have anywhere to play at the moment. Running isn't too hard on me. I take it slow, jog, and don't over do it. When I'm not getting pummeled by allergies I will go outside, but often I'm on the treadmill watching a Premier League game, or football. Jon

Bytor2112 and Hordak, This is an interesting topic you've brought up. We're told "an education will get you places". I got a bachelor's degree and spent another 3 years working at a grocery store. Under employed I guess. I have since moved on and obtained a Master's degree in education. And 2112, your wife is absolutley correct, it was just busy work, and pay tuition. I just obviously announced it here, but I don't think most people I know at work are aware I have an MS. All's it did really was move me up the pay scale. (Which is good...) My brother has a bachelor's in business and pulls electrical wire. His father in law has an MS in ag from UC Davis and is a truck driver. My grandfather got his high school diploma in 1970 at the age of 51 so he could be a post master. It always embarrassed my grandma. But today at 88, he lives like a king. He learned to save and invest well. Jon

Thanks, I got 46 miles in in the last 4 weeks. I have an Airdyne but need to get it in too have it tuned up. So, for days when I'm feeling a bit "beat" I'll get on that. I started playing basketball at work last week with some mates from work. Took a shoulder to the ribs on the second day, so although I have been jogging still, I'm having a bit of a problem with my wind. Jon

Hugh Nibley has always fascinated me with the insight he always had in regards to the Book of Mormon. One that has stood out is the connection he makes with the Nepohite "Righteousness Wickedness Cycle" and the Nephite medium of "making a living". As he points out, when the Nephites were agriculturaly based they were more prone to be righteous. When they became a more commerce based society is when the trouble starts. I live in an agricultural area that is making the transition to a more "commerce" based community. I'm starting to see little things that don't mean a lot now, but as more "big business" moves into the area, these things will add up. Jon

Haruki Murakami is the author of "What I Talk About When I Tlak About Running". It chronicles his preperation for 2006 (?) New York Marathon, as well as takes the reader back to when he started running in the mid-1980's, the same time he sold his Tokyo night club and became an author. The book moves back and forth over the last 20 years that he has trained for various racing events (as well as triathlons). He also addresses (almost poigniantely) the changes he has noticed over the 20 years, no matter how hard he's tried, of his body slowly slowing down, and aging. Something which we all seem to try to avoid. I think his being Buddhist (I am assuming) puts him more in tune to this process than we in the West are. This is a good read. Pick it up at the library. Jon

Which ones do you think are good to go? And which ones do you think are bunk? I used to believe in Bigfoot, but not so much anymore. UFO's, I can't get on that wagon. Monsterquest has week after week of shows that "research" "paranormal" phenomena, etc. The one taht disturbed me the most was the sudden increase in anaconda and pythons in Florida. I can't vacation their now. Jon

I watched Burn Notice last night on USA. I like it. Good espionage/secret ops show. I think. Jon

>>>Although I think this is more of the exception than the norm. Dale Murphy and Steve Young have been good examples of reaching pinacles of the sports culture success and surviving within the parameters of the Gospel. Entertainment wise Gladys Knight seems to be one who is "holding to the rod" as well as others.<<< Apparently you didn't read the above paragraph. Ironically, the gentleman who was partners with Covey, building the Covey "Empire" was excommunicated and re-baptized. Which actually may not be ironic at all. Jon

My friend in hs (who is still my friend) would try to convinve me that "The Church" owned Coca Cola, hence, we were all hypocrites. Jon

I have 5 girls. 9 (2)- 20. My 20 year old treats me like I just crawled out of the swamp of creation. In her book I'm a Neandertal. I have a furrowed brow, bow legged, able to manipulate tools, but still, not very bright. If I said the sky is blue she'd figure out a way to argue about it. My 16 year old would do anything in the world to please my wife and I. Two years ago we thought she was headed for counseling. She pulled it together and is as pleasant a mid-teen you could find. My 12 year old. Thinks dad is a geek. We "go" to the same school. She says "hi" and even smiles. But mostly I'm her way of avoiding riding the bus to and from school. That's OK. She tried out for the volleyball team (and got cut) because she thought it would make me happy. My 9 year olds. I'm still the hero. I can tell them stories about Bigfoot and they believe them. They stick me in the back with a knee or elbow at 2:30 in the morning. Didn't even know they'd crawled in bed with me. (My wife works nights...) They aren't ashamed to cuddle on the couch. Eventually they are all going to meet boys they like and get married. Yuk. Jon

Also, Raffi sings on his own albums that he produces! :D:D Jon

Robert Redford, possibly the greatest actor still out there (sorry Johnny Depp and Tom Cruise fans) has directed and acted in how many of his own films? If they didn't have "ego" they couldn't do it in the first place. To follow Moksha, where would "A River Runs Through It" have ended up if R. Redford hadn't narrated it? Jon

The one poster was correct (As well as the study) less drinking=less traffic related eaths, broken homes, child abuse, spousal abuse, rape, etc. I had an acquintance who worked in the CHP in the internal affairs department. A judge told him once that in his particular courtroom 90% of his cases were drug or alcohol related. That's quite a statement. Jon

I know a "local" who played a small role in an "LDS" movie a couple of years back that starred the "usual suspects" doing th LDS genre lately. He told his mother, for the most part, they were a pretty foul mouthed, rude goup of people who like to make money off of "us", but for the most part could care less about following church guidlines. I don't know how accurate his description is, but if it is remotely true, then that is too bad. Jon

I think so, it's been so long since I've read it. Silly of me to forget. Jon

Women are neat! Jon