Lindy

Hmmmm Setheus,I pm'd you to ask for a special prayer for Nick....I guess you missed it. Must of have gotten lost in cyber space somewhere. I pm'd several priesthood holders and asked for prayers for Nick. I was getting ahold of anyone I could think of to help with prayer. I know that no matter the extent of his injuries.... he beat the odds by making it thru the first day. He was in a very serious accident at work and still needs all the prayers we can muster up. I figured that you know the power of a good prayer and could help the cause. :)

I posted this on the Gospel Forum....but I guess I better post it here too :) I just received this from Strawberry Fields....and she asked me to share it with all who would like to know how Nick is doing...... -------------------------------------------- Last night at Nick's bath time ( in bed) a male nurse said loudly "Nick open your eyes! " Nick Opened his eyes! "Nick give me a thumbs up!" "Nick give me a thumbs up!" HE DID! "Nick show me two fingers!" HE DID! "Nick wiggle your toes!" HE KICKED AT HIM! We are so happy that he has made this great step! We know that this happens in baby steps and sometimes there can be divits in the road but we will take this as a good day and run with it. We are praying that he continues to improve and we thank you for all of your prayers and support. ------------------------------------------------------------------ I know that we will all keep Nick and SF in our prayers....one thing I know is that the power of prayer is an awesome force..... This is GREAT news! I had to share it as soon as I could.

I watched the whole cartoon.....I found it quite entertaining :) Thanks Chell!

It makes me think of my son last year.....he was always finding something like that and calling me over to see what he had found...and laughing all the while as I was viewing it :)

hmmmm The Bible...a very important book translated by MEN The BOM...a very important book translated by a MAN doesn't sound so bad thinking about it now does it? Thank you for sharing the interesting facts

I agree that group dating is one of the best ways to go...as long as the group stays a group and doesnt' start pairing up once everyone is away from the house. As I read the replies...I think this: If I was a guy...I would listen to what the men (and the overaged boys) have to say...they have been there, they have learned by their mistakes or the mistakes of others...and they know how you are feeling. Hard for a female to really understand the inside workings of a male. All we can do is speculate. I have noticed some good advice from the guys....I won't tell you what I would do...cause it probably would be wrong....go with the guys!

I agree with you John Doe.. Respect shown would be a good thing...but not Idolation.

I am glad that you posted this SF....it's something very important that we all need to think about in our lives.This is a good thread...and I'm glad you all are the people you are....good people, caring people...kind people. That is what Christ want's us to be....and you all make me happy ....you make Him happy .... Enough tears for the day... I didn't think I had anymore left in me.....I guess I was wrong. I love you guys, Lindy

RAMADI, Iraq - Insurgents gunned down four U.S. Marines west of Baghdad on Monday, A U.S. Army soldier was killed Monday and seven others were wounded in a mortar attack in north-central Baghdad, Four U.S. servicemen killed in Iraq ambush Monday June 21st 2004 ................................. Many have died before and I'm sure that many more will give their lives before this is over..... My heart goes out to all the families of those who gave their lives, or had their lives taken from them. There are so many more to pray for, I shake my head and dry my tears. So many families and friends who are mourning the passing of each of them. Each one leaves behind a life that was led, a love that was shared, and when you put a name to the serviceman or woman....it just hits home that much more. They released the name of the face that I knew..so I will post it on the board now... USMC Staff Sgt. Marvin Best.... Assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 7th Marines unit I feel very humble while reading the accounts of others who died, knowing that they have names and faces that others know as well.

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - A U.S. Marine was killed in action in Iraq's Anbar province, the U.S. command said Sunday. The Marine, who was not identified by name or unit, was killed Saturday, the command said. He was assigned to the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force. Anbar province, which covers a large swath of western Iraq, includes such insurgency hotspots as Ramadi, Qaim and Fallujah. The statement contained no further details. More than 830 U.S. service members have died since the beginning of military operations in Iraq last year, according to the Defense Department. ---------------------------- This Marine was a friend....married to my daughters best friend....any news that anyone has about him or what they have heard happened....please email me, his family has gotten next to nothing from the marines who came to the door last night. I will pm his name to a few I think can help ....I won't put his name on the board until it goes public. I ask for prays for his family, but mostly for his wife; widowed at 29,...She is really having a hard time not knowing about what happens after death. She needs more comfort than the small amount that I could give..... I left a message for the Bishop of my old ward...and the missionaries too...I just know that she could use the extra prayers. I know his dad and sister are active LDS and they will help as much as they can...but they have their own grief to deal with...and his mom is going to need extra prayers too....I know she will have a hard time dealing with his death. Any prayers offered will be appreciated in his families behalf. Lindy

I'm not really up on all the latest "scandals" of the political world....all I really know is that not all information will be shared with the public. How can it be? I'm talking about military info that is on a need to know basis. Sure there will be some mistakes made....but who is to say what about the decisions that were made based on the information which was given during a crisis? We enjoy the right to sit back and talk smack about our leaders without the threat of imprisionment or death. (Well, most of us anyway) Who is it who is on this board that works for the media? A news reporter or something? I have a few questions for you.

Worth bumping up.....Bump.

Thanks for the link....it will be interesting to read....oldest son is Catholic and we enjoy debates now and then.

Hey SnowBoy! something you need to share with us? YOUR OB-GYN?

Good posts Jenda....I agree with your thoughts myself. I look back on peer pressure as a teen.... even with all the warnings and lectures and KNOWING that doing something could have extreme consequences.... teens will listen to friends, or others who paint this rosy...."it's sooooo coool" picture. Those who listen to the warnings, and lectures...and contemplate the logic behind the concerns will have a stronger stance against the wrong choices. I am sure that we all have done some pretty stupid things in our lifetime, and wish that we hadn't....there are things that we have done that we (hopefully) can find reparation, or to compensate for, but there are others things that we can never compensate, thing we can't repair, things that have no reversal. Hopefully we will have learned from the mistakes that we have made, or the mistakes that others have made...but we have to be held accountable for the things we do, the choices that we make; and sometimes the consequences of our actions are not easy...but it is OUR consequence for OUR action....sadly remembering that there are things that can never be fixed. Those who chose to follow satan, chose to follow satan, where ever he leads them...it's too late, it was the biggest choice of their eternal life. They chose wrong, the consequences (IMHO) are irreversible.

Welcome to the board Arcobaleno Nero! Sometimes it's fun to pick and choose your battle threads... :) Lindy

I don't know the man... and my 2 cents.... PD...you have to do be happy in your job...or it will reflect on your attitude towards your family. You have a very time consuming and high stress job as it is, and I agree....if you can spend more time with your family...do it. You only have one shot at each stage of your childrens development levels. Make sure that you don't trade priorities that won't matter in the long run.

I am sorry Tr2 for the loss of your friend....

And look where it got you Jason..... :) You really should see a doctor for that jaundice color in your eye.

I won't imply it. I'll state it outright. If one is truly an Anti-Mormon, they are fundamentally immoral. They are haters of truth, bigoted and degenerate. It is not a matter subject to question. Whether or not a critic is Anti-Mormon is another question but once you have crossed the line into anti-ism, you're an immoral reprobate. WHOA Snow....rein those doggies in a little... I think you are totally out of line on that call. I am not as educated as some might be, but I still think that judging someone like that just on their belief is wrong. An anti-mormon view is just that...a view, an opinion, ( I will admit to some it became a religion...but I'll not go there) It is my opinion that the anti's view of what they have left behind is based on the feelings that they have developed about something that has happened to them. A lot of reasons are given by anti's why they became, or how they evolved into what they are now. Most of what I have heard is anger and fear ... that others can't see what they found (or expand on something that bothered them) and the mormons will be damned to hell if they (the anti's) can't deter their (active mormons) path away from the church. Some just don't care about the religious aspect anymore....they just grew to hate or hold in total disrespect anything that associates with the church. Those feelings based on the present "truths" as they see. I don't think that it means that they have no morals. Morals as you see them are different than morals they see them as. I am anti-satanist if you will, (as an example) that doesn't mean that I am immoral because I don't believe in the truths as the satanist see's it. I think that I would just totally disagree with every thing they believe in... and keep my morals, values and standards the way I see the truth. Because it's MY truth. Do I make any sense?

Seriously? Yes. They are free from the burden of conscious thought. The thinking has been done for them. That's where I think your wrong Harv.. free from the burden of conscious thought? I don't think so..... interesting statement though "The thinking has been done for them" Made me THINK for a minute.

SF...just think of it as your cute little family GROWING...changing for the good. And yes, breathing is a good thing.... just take some deep breaths here and there and do take each day as it comes. Have fun with the wedding....You'll do ok, you'll get him married, things will be fine....And if you need to sit and cry for a little while...that's ok too. Just do it.

Oh Jason, I'm sorry.... life sucks bricks sometimes. Just remember that we are here for you if you need us.

You certainly don't expect everyone to agree with you, do you? Sorry Ray if you got up on the wrong side of the bed today.....not what I meant at ALL! I don't expect anyone to agree with me...never have... one of my many downfalls.... I don't give a rip if people like me or what I stand for anymore. BTW...I have made some very good friends from this board....and not all are LDS. So I'm not understanding where the "expect " part comes in.

Yes, most people do say that. However if you speak to most people about their faith in God you will find that they have faith in the God that they have been told about, having no experience of their own.I cannot count the number of mormons who have faith in Joseph Smith's God, and not their own. The same goes for those who follow Billy Graham, Benny Hinn, the Jehovah's Witnesses, etc, etc. They follow a god that another person has met. Only in religious circles are people this silly. Unless you have examples from your own life that have brought you to where you are, you are believing in somebody else's God. The Nicene creed doesn't incidate that you follow God, nor does the LDS testimony because both are simply statements of belief that require no experiential belief in God to say. Would you marry somebody that you had no experience in, but believes was real? Of course not, you commit to those that you have real life experience with. I'd say this probably defines at least 75% of all those in religious circles, and that is a generous figure. It's probably higher. Good post Tr2....Once again....I believe in your God, same as most all the other LDS on this board. God IS God. His is your's mine and ours. Sorry if you just don't see it that way. But it WAS a good post! :)