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YU GUYS R SO SMART !
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Hey Checkerboy, I got a 78.79 %.
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if you ask the dog whisperer he would say take the dog for a walk! Sounds to me the dog is jealous of the cat for some reason. Dogs scent mark their area and claim as their own. THey have scent glands in both of their waste products. Cats are very clean and won't go even if their litter is getting full. If I were you I would have an area for the cat to sleep, (with me!) that the dog couldn't get to. Animals are smarter than we give them credit. I have a big dog and a little dog and the big dog feels rejected because there are things the little one can do that he can't. Just because of size. As far as the igloo bed, she may never go back. One trick you might try is to put a heating pad on the lowest setting and put under the bed. This worked for me in the same situation. THe cat was getting older and would be comforted by the heat due to aches in her bones. If the cat is very close to you then try putting a pillow case you have slept on inside the igloo too. My cat would always sleep in areas where she could smell my scent. Animals sense of smell is so much better than ours they can smell another animals scent even after it has been washed. SO if the dog has pooped anywhere, the cat probably will stay away.
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How's the weather?
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Yeah, not knowing the particulars does make my comment seem strange. When this person was called, it was a shock to several women due to the behavior, attitude, so forth. WE did not vote for or against. To vote against means you know of an issue of unworthiness. This was not the case. We none the less, supported, attended meetings, engage in conversation, all of the things we would have done if we were 1oo % behind this calling from the beginning. But, the attitude, control issues, behind the scenes issues have not changed. This person doesn't even feel it necessary to conduct the meetings the way it is set up by church headquarters. Meetings are conducted the way she wants. She even teaches 3 out of 4 lessons each month! So, we who want a relief society to be run the way it is supposed to, where all sisters are given a chance to grown and develop, when the needs of all sisters are taken in to consideration, are desirous to have this happen. It has been almost 4 years and these things still haven;t changed. This is what I mean by biding my time.
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"His OCD comes in the form of having severe issues with contamination (germs). Everything has to get wiped down and basically sanitized before it is considered "safe" or clean. I come home from work or eating out and I have to shower before sitting down and relaxing. With these issues, I cannot consider adoption even though there isn't anything more in the world I want." Is your inability to consider adoption due to Social services not giving a child to OCD person or is this a personal issue? I just a saw a program where people adopted older children who desperately want a family and love. Once adopted, they blossom and are so grateful for their new family. Maybe you could consider this. If you did have a child, they would just learn to be very clean!
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I hear you! Same sort of issue here. But in your situation, I would tell the BIshop about the incident and comment,(in a loving way) as letting him know you would like to understand. He may not know she is like this. If he asked he to talk to you, then he feels you are in the position for needing help. As the RS Pres, she is also entitled to make decisions as to need. If she feels you don't need it, she could be wrong. I would talk to my Bishop.
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HAHAHAH I had to laugh out loud and read this question to my family because we had a similar situation in our ward! the person called was embarrassed to tell her coworkers she was a member. She was, (IS) a control freak, . When I didn't raise my hand to sustain, ( i didn't raise my hand against either) the Bishop called me in and railed on me! There were at least 5 others who felt as I did. now, 4 years later, nothing has changed. We are just biding our time! Who knows why things like this happen? HEavenly Father does! Nothing happens by chance, there is no such thing. So i count on Him and keep quiet.
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Maybe you need anti anxiety drugs!
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Hi, I too was, am still the only member in my family, other than my kids and my new husband. It is a little harder for us when parents and siblings don't get it. BUt you have to see it for what it is. You are the pioneer for your family! You are the first link on the long chain that will grow. One way to get other members of your family in the church, GENEALOGY ! Yep, doing their work in the temple gives them the opportunity to join as they have learned and experienced amazing things in the spirit world! MANY do want to be members and are waiting for YOU to help them! I know this is true from my experiences there. It is amazing!
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You could talk to your home teacher, maybe even the missionaries. You do need to discover what feelings you do have about the church. If you are doubting your testimony, certainly tell Heavenly Father that you're struggling and ask him to help you by strong feelings and ministering by the Holy Ghost. He doesn't want you to be confused and depressed. There may be other things going on as well so it may be a good idea to talk to a counselor, but I would encourage an LDS counselor as counselors outside the faith would never understand. Your Bishop could also tell you where to locate one if you are not in an area where there are many members.
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You say that others tell you that satan is working hard on you. Well. it sounds like he is but that in no way means anyone is judging you! All those who follow Christ and try to live the commandments are attacked by Satan. Some more than others and that differs at different times. He knows when he is winning and then he increases the assault. Don't be fooled! The war in heaven for our souls is still waging and the closer the time is for Christ to return the war will get even more intense. It is good that you are making sure to pray and read your scriptures, but you may consider taking a more active stance. There are many books available to help you in your quest to strengthen yourself. There are books put out by the church to help you study on a deeper level, and you can also get many books on Deseret Books. When your testimony is being tried and tested, you need to strengthen and deepen your testimony. Another thing that Satan is after is your kids! If he can get to you and get you to stop attending church or teaching them, he wins the war over their souls too! You also need to realize that we are in the latter days, and many good people will fall away. That doesn't mean you have to! There is nothing more important in this life or on this earth that gaining a testimony, and then next is to teach it your family. There is also nothing more sweet or joyous to know is that when they are grown, you did all you could to teach them to the best of your ability. If you are suffering from depression, it has gone more than few weeks, it may be more than a mental depression, but a physical depression. This is a medical illness just like diabetes or arthritis. You need medication to help you get the chemicals in your brain back on course. If you feel like this is what is going on, be good to yourself AND your kids and ask your doctor! There are wonderful medications on the market you could take, and after a while you feel you don't need them you could stop. But if you need them take them! Medical advances are gifts from God too!
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[you bet cha !!!!!!! Being single beats being married to the wrong guy any day!]
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Other daughter served a mission in South Africa. Holds current temple recommend, very outgoing, physically fit and beautiful. She is 29 and all the guys she knows around her age are not interested in a serious relationship. The rest of the guys have issues with immorality, pornography, still students at 28, too occupied playing video games, etc. One guy invited my daughter out to dinner, she went to a medium priced place, he told her to pick the place. When they got there he ordered water, she ordered a soda, he asked her what she liked on the menu, when she told him he said, oh good we can share it. She told him, "you know I work I can pay for my own meal." He still shared it with her and she paid half. Here she is a single mom, he asks her out on a date and she has to pay half. Loser. Ben Raines You know, when things like this happen, you are so caught off guard, so blown away by the audacity of this guy that you really can't react in the appropriate way. If she knew in advance that he was going to do that she probably would have planned to walk out with him sitting there to at least pay for her soda! LOL ! She probably gets upset with herself each time she thinks of it! And another comment you made is that there are more righteous women than men. This is definatley a FACT! Elder Oaks wife was single till she was in her 50's I think! His first wife had to die for her to get married! (no disrespect intended)
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When I went through my divorce I thought I would be remarried in just a few years. I went 10 and hardly could find anyone to date! I went to the singles conferences, dances, attended all my meetings, magnified my callings, had FHE, so forth. I had people say to me that I was too picky! TOO PICKY? What I want a man who has a job, a testimony, isn't abusive, not a pedophile, takes showers, and isn't lazy. Is that too much? I DON"T THINK SO! Of course no one is perfect, and if it was your fault by not being perfect, then no one would be married! One of my hero's is Sherry Dew. Check her out! She is awesome, definitely has done and still does the right things, and she has never married. So far her singleness is due to her earthly mission, which has been inspiring. If she were married, had kids, she would never have been able to achieve the righteous things she has. go to BYUTV.org and listen to some of her talks! Anyone who accuses someone by saying it is their fault they are not married shows how uneducated, lacking in Gospel knowledge, and lack of real life experiences they are!
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HaHA Yes, when I went to the Baptist church the preacher would "preach" for about 45 minutes. Before that of course we would sing, have a prayer, and of course pass the contribution plate around. WE had the "Lord's Supper" about twice a year. During the preaching, the paster would get on a roll and actually yell most of the time. Yeah we also heard that we would go to hell and burn in brimstone and the lake of fire if we weren't "saved". WE also heard all those who had not gotten baptized would go to hell. That included people in other countries that had never heard or had the opportunity to hear the gospel. I don't think I ever felt scared of God, but I didn't understand why people would go to the ever lasting burning of hell if they hadn't had the opportunity to hear the Gospel. I sure was glad to know, once I had a testimony of the restored gospel that our loving Heavenly Father wouldn't do that! That wouldn't be fair now would it?
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Quote: Originally Posted by jolee65 Thanks I should have given more detail on the whole situation , yeah its alittle scary my mom took my daughter into the local mall last weekend to have her pick out something for her birthday and bret kept calling and wanted to meet her at the mall were she was with my mother shopping lol it upset my mom but amanda told him no im spending time with my grandmother. I feel that she cares for him but she could move on, she told me he crys more then any guy shes ever seen and she is a soft hearted girl so I think that thats what gets her the crying and begging and constant texting , my space love letters, my gosh lol "Bret" sounds just like "Brian" . He cried and cried and begged and my daughter just like yours has a soft heart and felt sorry for him and couldn't end it sooner. I told her that she couldn't go out with someone because she feels sorry for them or because she doesn't want to hurt their feelings. You need to prepare her for college when she is far away on her own. She might meet a creepy guy and she wont know how to handle it. I know that sometimes girls feel flattered with all the attention their getting and it's hard to let go. Rain" Another aspect to both of these situations is that when someone who is not a member, who has never encountered a member then begins to date them, they find that they have very desirous qualities that they haven't found before. Teenagers who have been raised in the church and taught Christ like qualities of kindness, sensitivity, patience, are very very attractive to someone who has never been with someone like that. . So it makes sense that when faced with a break up, they are anxious to do anything so that won't happen. WHat needs to be done, is that they need to understand that there are MANY MAny others who are like that, with a high percentage members of the Church! I have seen this time and time again with my sons. They need to comprehend that it is THE CHURCH that makes this person like this.
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The issue that makes this one a little different and more difficult, is that is WASN'T an inter-faith marriage! Both were members of the same belief. It wasn't until AFTER the marriage that doubts came in and questions about the soundness of certain doctrine. I was sort of on this same situation when I got married. My husband had been a member for about 6 months, after reconnecting with me from 20 years previous. If after we were married he began to question the beliefs and wanting to live contrary to the standards to be able to go to the temple, I don't know what I would have done! Marriage in itself is a very tough relationship. If we had the same difficulties and trials that we have had and he wasn't a member, I would have definitely left him. But this would have been because we had different goals. I would be living toward the goal of going to the temple regularly, being sealed, and doing those things that will invite the Spirit in my home. If he was drinking and smoking and watching sexual and violent movies in my home, it couldn't be my home and I would leave.
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Is it require to have a body for lesser than Celestial?
georgia2 replied to Hemidakota's topic in LDS Gospel Discussion
Having a physical body is the reward for having passed the first estate. That was fighting on Christ's side and given the opportunity to come to earth, receive a body, and given free agency to choose good or evil. When ALL bodies are resurrected they will be resurrected to the state they achieved by their life on earth. Where these bodies go and the very essence of the body make up will depend on what we did with our free agency. Those who receive a celestialized body will be those who received the required covenants and persevered and endured well to the end. -
I've reread all the post here again, and I do believe that when there is a long thread going, people skip over some of them then post their own answer to the first question. I reiterate, you are right in worrying about this guy! He does need to take the discussions because you truly don't know where it will take him, but the other things you mentioned are scary to saY THE LEAst! If it were me, I would stay and be at the discussions to see how it is TRULY received. Then you have the opportunity to offer comments as the spirit directs you. One thing you could do is to teach your children the early signs of an abuser. Look them up yourself. The first signs are jealousy, lack of respect for the other person's wishes, criticizing others or family for standing up and demanding respect to be shown. THe next signs are clinging on, phoning, texting or any other thing they can do so that the person will just cave in to his wishes, Which would be not to break up. then there comes the stalking. and you don't want to go any further than this,
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I care but did not know all of these details. I did see some video's but they did not show all of the details you included. I do know that some Mormons don't agree with the churches stand but as for me I follow the teachings of the church and the Prophets. I appreciate your personal insights and testimony. WE have been told that there will come a day that the only place we will be safe is in the temple. There will be others trampling on the outside, even banging on the doors. I guess this is just a sampling of what is to come.
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Yeah, I agree. BUt whether we like it or not, the extended family, in-laws, do play a major part in the total happiness or harmony of the marriage. When the in-laws are constantly tearing down one person in the marriage, there can't be harmony. Which in turn causes sadness in times such as Christmas, Thanksgiving, birthdays, ect. It just creates tension that is better not being there. I know a young wonderful couple who had problems from HIS parents. Both families are LDS but his family had some type of weird issue, and so the couple MOVED ACROSS the country! And they are doing great! THe old saying of when you get married, in truth you marry the whole family is still true today. This aspect is just one to think about. ANd I totally agree that the wife needs to stand by her man! needs to be loving, understanding, patient, and supportive in his struggle to figure out what is right for him. He still needs to take the missionary discussions again to come to a better understanding of the covenants he already took on at baptism and which his wife believed he was committed to. BUT she also needs to take the pressure off that her family is putting on so that he feels no pressure, just love, understanding, patience. JUst as Christ would be in this situation. Would he be throwing rocks at this guy? No Way! Would he be kind, understanding and patient, I think so! SO, in my humble opinion, that is the way HER WHOLE FAMILY should be treating him!
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hi Ceeboo, I don't know if you are being sarcastic or mean what you are saying. I guess from your smilies you aren't. I truly don't mean any ill intent or malice regarding my statements. I think any family who has an in-law with issues about the church should be loving, supportive, and understanding. WHo would want to be around people who are ugly and judgmental? not me! The reason I suggest he learn about the history of the Catholic church is because in my quest to learn about the earths religion I was blest to have a best friend who had been raised Catholic, gone to Catholic schools, so forth. He educated me it's history and fully explained how the church today is how and why it is this way. It is truly fascinating and I believe that most people, including Catholics don't know about the decisions and actions that were taken during the dark ages. And I believe that a knowledge and understanding of the time in history that people broke off from the church and started their own is key to understanding the plight of Joseph SMith at that time. Most people don't know how the Nicene creed came to be and why people recite it today in their religions services. Once this type of thing is understood then a person can approach God and ask him to lead them in the way they should go. I'm not saying only some Catholics don't now the history, but most LDS members don't either. (or other religions for that matter). I truly was not trying to be disrespectful or arrogant in my advice. If you were thinking I was being nasty, please forgive me! I was truly trying to give good advice to a man who is seeking to keep his wife and have a loving relationship with her whole family.
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You say you had a testimony , and now you believe that it was a way to get closer to GOd. That IS a testimony! I guess it just wasn't strong enough before you began to question what you had already received from God as answers to your prayer. You did convert, then you got married. You owe it to yourself AND your wife to take the discussions again and truly pray about it. THen you can ask any questions that now have cropped up that you didn't think of before. TO ease tension in your home and with your wife, you need to talk to her in an open way and ask her to support you in your spiritual quest to truly understand the Church of Jesus Christ. Then truly do it! Take the discussions again, honestly pray and ask what Gods will is. Ask him if indeed it is true! I posted a while back and still believe you need to learn about the history of the Catholic church, what happened to the scriptures they had before printing press and people began learning to read. Then you will understand and learn why all of the the churches broke off. I think this is critical for you to fully grasp why and what the church is all about. The need for a restitution. You owe this to your wife whom you say you love so much. She isn't the one that changed, you are. BUt I bet she will be totally supportive of you taking the discussions again so you have a better understanding of what you made your commitment to. Good luck
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THis is quite a different story! What you describe has all of the hallmarks of an abusive relationship being established. I dated a guy like this when I was in my 20's. I tried repeatedly to break it off. He then stalked me, actually kidnapped me, broke into my apartment after I went out with someone else. Let the guy take the discussions, maybe it will touch his heart. But warn your daughter that these behaviors of his ARE NOT GOOD !