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2 minutes ago, KScience said:
@bytebear I was addressing your comment "That death from wars is almost non-existent."
I don't have numbers to compare so but would also assume that the number of deaths in the WWI and WWII would be higher; but would consider these anomalies rather than the normal pattern of events. How many people dying annually would need to comparable?
Not really. WWII was high, but so was post WWII Communist rule both in China, Vietnam and Russia. But even still Vietnam was a blip in comparison, but looks like a mountain compared to the wars in the Middle East.
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I have attached a spending chart, and a chart on deaths from war.
Here's the detailed video with the stats.
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2 minutes ago, Tyme said:
Social Security and Medicare aren't entitlements. They make about 50% of the total budget. Military spending makes up about 50% of discretionary spending.
Also it appears like we are in an unprecedented era of peace because less people are dying from war. A big part of that is because war time medical has gotten better. If you account for all the injuries sustained during Iraq and Afghanistan it would come pretty close to equaling Vietnam causalities. Also, there isn't a world war going on so you'd expect less causalities. The utter damage laid upon Iraq is just as bad as what was done to Vietnam.
They are entitlements, under the budgetary definitions of our government. And you are wrong on your budget numbers as well. Perhaps you are doing the old switcheroo by looking only at discretionary spending and not overall spending.
And no, we aren't suddenly saving millions of lives on the battlefield. We just aren't killing as many people. And, no, the Middle East conflicts are not equating the numbers of Vietnam either. We can go over the numbers in detail if you want.
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2 minutes ago, KScience said:
Sorry but there are plenty of people currently fleeing wars and who have seen their families wiped out.
A little infogram I used in class recently to start a discussion on this topic:
Yes, but compare that to wars of the past. 10,000 is actually minor to the deaths of millions under Communist rule, in China, Russia, etc. And that's not even counting WWII.
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12 minutes ago, Just_A_Guy said:
I wonder, though, to what degree this is a difference in terminology. We seem to have more “interventions” and “police actions” and “occupations” and “insurrections”—and people die in those, and people lose their homes, and people get raped and beaten and brutalized, as they always have—but none dare call them “wars”.
And yet, the numbers bear out that these actions actually save more lives than they take. Because of our inactions in the Middle East, for example, we saw the rise of ISIS, an organization that could easily have been stomped out, had we been paying more attention. Even in Iraq, it wasn't that we took out Sadam, but it was that we stopped policing the area.
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19 hours ago, SpiritDragon said:
I had actually thought about posting about Remembrance Day (what we renamed armistice day as opposed to what you renamed armistice day), but I wasn't sure how it would be received. On my mission in the States I was sent a poppy in the mail that I could wear as I have always done for Remembrance Day. I wore it naively thinking that people would be okay with me honouring heroes in my way that day, instead I was met with great ridicule for wearing a "gay little flower" as my companion put it, and he wasn't the only to disrespect me and my custom. I still haven't figured out that reaction and decided since we Canadians are such a minority here, I'd just do my thing and not ruffle any feathers.
Thank you for putting something up to keep in remembrance those who have fought for our freedoms.
I think the poppy tradition varies from region to region. Here in Southern California, I have seen them being handed out outside shopping centers.
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Would it surprise you to learn that US military spending has continually gone down since WWII (as % of GDP), while entitlement spending has exploded in the same time period. No, our budget issues are not from having a strong military.
Also, would it surprise you that we are in an era of unprecedented peace globally? That death from wars is almost non-existent.
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Whig.
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Federalist party, but no one would interpret it correctly. Just as the Democratic party is not particularly in favor of democracy.
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I would go up to Park City. The Olympic park and training center is at the turn off from the freeway, and has a lot to see. A small museum, and you can see the bobsled run, and the jumps. And then you continue to drive up to the city itself. Small mountain town ruined by a Hollywood film festival, but still a lot of historic mining things to see. And they have various activities, but a bit early for skiing. Still a fun place to check out.
You can also visit Snowbird which is up a different canyon, and they have a tram and various activities as well.
You just missed the leaves changing in the canyons, but the city should be turned nicely now. I was there a week ago, and it was hit or miss, some trees green, others vibrant red and orange. Of course, it's nothing compared to New England, so you probably won't be impressed.
I would also consider a tour of the State Capitol. Pretty cool building.
Drive around the University of Utah campus, and the surrounding neighborhoods (The Avenues)
Most people go to the top of the Joseph Smith building for a view, but do the Church office building. That's absolutely spectacular. Tours are free of course.
You can also do a Beehive house tour. They shortened it, sadly, and it's done by foreign sister missionaries, so not particularly historic and a bit preachy. But what can you do. The Lion house next door has a decent cafeteria.
You might want to consider hiking up Ensign Peak. It was the place where Brigham Young and others laid out the plans for the valley, and they had some fairly substantial spiritual experiences, including visions of the future of the Salt Lake valley. Covenants were also made there, so it is holy ground.
"This Is the Place" monument is a good stop for the tourist and history buff.
Not sure if this link will work, but here's a map I made of the various activities we did a few years back.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1f1jT2vT94DH_nBUvAi9d1dw4fuQ&ll=40.83127478813276%2C-112.52109990000002&z=8 -
On 10/20/2018 at 8:48 AM, Dan_473 said:
Like maybe one of the things I'm asking is,
Does Heavenly Father need a sacrifice in order to forgive us? I can forgive other people without a sacrifice, at least I think I can... So what is the situation?
It's not about forgiving others, although that's important. it's about atoning for our sins. We could atone for our own sins, pay for them ourselves, but the pain and sorrow are too great for us to endure. Christ took that burden from us, and atoned for our sins, so we wouldn't have to endure the pain of atonement. And I don't even think of it as physical pain, but the emotional and spiritual toll. We, as imperfect beings, are simply incapable of doing it ourselves. Christ was perfect and as such, he alone could do it.
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I was at the open house in the parking lot tent when the lightening struck the Oquirrh Mountain temple. I have before and after photos of the statue to prove it. The storm was so loud you couldn't hear the video presentation, or even talk to your neighbor. Inside the temple, it was quiet and peaceful. The Temple literally and figuratively is the calm within the storm.
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On 10/11/2018 at 3:27 PM, The Folk Prophet said:
No.
Orig or remake?
No
No
Awful!
I sense a theme...
But...no.
Worst....movie....ever....
2nd Worst movie ever.
YES. Who doesn't love Rudy?
So boring.
You have no soul.
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20 hours ago, Just_A_Guy said:
I’m out of free articles for the month. Is there a Cliffs Notes version?
Open up an incognito (private) window in your browser and copy the url.
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Rudy
Field of Dreams
Titanic (yes, I do like this film)
Steel Magnolias
Sound of Music
Harry Potter
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On 9/27/2018 at 7:21 AM, Just_A_Guy said:
I had never thought about this before, but I was recently reading in the OT where God flat-out told one of the OT prophets—I think it was Jeremiah—**not** to get married, due to the demands of his ministry and Jerusalem’s impending destruction (also: as a symbol for the people).
So, while I’ve traditionally speculated that Jesus was probably married for the reasons @LePeel gives; we do have scriptural precedent to the contrary. (And of course, we have Paul advocating the single life as well.).
I wonder if God was telling him what He tells a lot of young men today. Don't get married, go on a mission. But that doesn't mean to never get married. Just that you have things to do first.
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Do you believe God has created worlds without end? If so, then how did God populate each world? How many Eves are there? And what's to assume that Heavenly Mother was the first of her planet? She may very well have been the Mary, or the Ruth. Lots of assumptions on Mormon (and non-Mormon) belief.
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Wait until she gets a European teacher, and then you have to deal with commas uses as periods and periods as commas and the minus sign is the backslash. Ugh, I hated that teacher.
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What I would like to see change? An emphasis on fellowshipping neighbors. I feel like we don't emphasize visitors to our services or activities enough. I would love to see 20% of the congregation be visitors/non-members. We get so cliquish. Also, it always bothered me that we have a "visitors Welcome" sign but no sign telling you what time the services are. How are visitors supposed to know when to come, other than when a bunch of cars are in the parking lot?
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19 hours ago, Carborendum said:
I would also point out that Nephi said "that should be his name."
When we say "Christ" in English, we aren't thinking of "anointed". We tend to use it as a surname for Jesus. So, whatever the Nephite derivation of the name/title was, that was translated per the common usage of the era (of Joseph Smith) as "Christ."
I don't know that they thought of his name being "Christ" any more than we do. Jesus is THE Christ. it's a title, more than a name.
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." - Isaiah 9:6 -
I looked up the word "Christ" and the word “Christ” comes from christos, a Greek word meaning “anointed.”
To be anointed, literally, is to have sacred oil poured on one’s head, because God has chosen the person for a special task. Priests and kings were anointed, and occasionally prophets. Kings were anointed during their coronation rather than receiving a crown.
http://ourrabbijesus.com/articles/what-does-the-word-christ-actually-mean/So, the translation could have been "word of the anointed one" or the one designated as king. It also ties into the LORD being used, since that is another designation of a holy ruler. So, I feel like we are arguing over synonyms.
Far be it from me because of the LORD that I should do this thing to my lord, the LORD’S anointed (mashiach), to stretch out my hand against him, since he is the LORD’S anointed (mashiach). (1 Samuel 24:6)
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Well, you said military spending was 50% of the budget. But even your own source lists it as 15%. And if you look at historical numbers, military spending went down since WWII, whereas entitlement spending (or what you would call Social Security and Medicare, among others) went from zero to about (33% + 27%).