PrinceofLight2000

Frankly, there are instances across the board when it comes to reasoning for the bullying where discipline doesn't work. I should know, it happened with me. I still see no reason for the need to set orientation apart in order to discipline bullying. All you'd have to do is apply a higher level of it. Warning leads to detention, then suspension, then possible expulsion. Lastly, if the teachers aren't doing enough to combat bullying for any reason, they need to be reprimanded or fired.

Even though it's a sin to practice it currently?

It can be dealt with. Orientation shouldn't have to be brought up if the teachers condemn bullying for any reason.

29/32!

Invasion of Privacy Charges After Death of Tyler Clementi - NYTimes.com This is an incredibly sad story. As a victim of bullying and as a witness of suicidal depression, I can empathize with this kid almost entirely. Harassment and malice should never be tolerated under any circumstance, no matter the disagreement. Christ taught us to love our fellow man, even if their beliefs or actions are abominable. I've been having a discussion about this on another forum for the past two days, and what people have been saying about this really troubles me. Given the demographic of the website, there are very many liberal atheist college students that attend. I had no doubt I would be attacked for my beliefs that same-sex relations are wrong. What disturbed me, however, is the secular left's adamant belief that a simple disagreement between Christians and homosexuals is the chief factor in fostering an environment where homosexuals are consistently put down, belittled, harassed, and are told that there is something inherently sinful about them and not just their actions, even though each and every one of us undergoes a similar struggle with temptation. They just simply don't understand that it is indeed a temptation. This, as opposed to people making the choice to pursue active malice against them. Here's just one example of the secular left's attitude from the thread I was having discussion in. I feel that this is flawed logic because we live in a society in which we are free to practice religion as we choose. No one should have to care about anyone else's theological opinions because they are free to formulate their own. Additionally, we also have the ability to legislate morality. While some on the other side of the ideological spectrum tend to classify that as tyranny, I don't see it that way. Legislation can be changed as the people's morality itself changes. For those who think that no morality should be imposed, please be reminded that without clear, enforced morals held by the majority of society on what is right and wrong, there could be no law and therefore no order. It is in the nature of law to uphold the right and punish the wrong. Furthermore, we are required to follow that law under the twelfth article of faith, even if we don't agree with it. Secondly, I feel it's common sense that the true reason for this tragic death was because of intentional acts of malice as opposed to what has been suggested--that others' opposing viewpoints has an effect so profound it would cause someone to sink into so low a despair that they would commit suicide. I spoke to several friends about this incident as I was having my discussion, and one of them put it quite well. Opposing viewpoints do have a slight effect, but only a negligible one. The real reason why this boy died is clear, and that is because of the various degrees of abuse he suffered at the hands of his peers and possibly his parents, including harassment, bullying, and invasion of privacy. When I have children, if one of my children turns out to be gay, I would do what I think any good Latter-Day Saint parent would do. I would tell them that although I disagree with their choice of beliefs, Heavenly Father gave them the ability to choose for a reason and that I have no right to mock or belittle them for exercising that ability. I would also let them know that as their father I will always love them, care for them, and be there for them, no matter what. All too often we hear about Christians who disown their children just because they make wrong choices and have the wrong attitudes when it comes to homosexuality. Imagine what would happen if that were to occur with other, smaller sins. There would be many broken families full of hatred and resentment toward one another, and it would create a very strong barrier against coming to any sort of understanding on both sides. I know a guy who's currently on his mission right now who told me once that if his brother were ever to become gay, that he would never speak to him again. Additionally, a member told a story in a post on here I had read (I'm sorry I can't remember your name) about how a ward missionary leader's abrasive and provocative comments toward a gay investigator turned him away from the church, when he was highly interested and even willing to take steps to change his lifestyle. These things are what cause the pain, and all of this deeply saddens me. I have an aunt who is currently in a same sex relationship with another woman, in which they've adopted children. We've always considered her partner to be part of the family, and would never treat her as anything less. After my father had passed away, my aunt spoke with my mother and my aunt broke down in tears. She told my mother that she had always been troubled about how I thought of her because of what I believed. She was worried that I didn't love her or accept her as part of the family because of the choices she made. When my mom told me about this, I really wondered what could have made her think that, because nothing I had ever said to her suggested that I felt that way, and I didn't. I feel like sometimes there is great fear in the homosexual community to over exaggerate or even wholly imagine the presence of intolerance because of the way they have been mistreated in the past. A few years later, I went on a family trip to cape cod with all of my dad's side. This issue got brought up amidst our political conversations, and my uncle (who is an ardent evangelical) and I who are the most religious of all of us both told them that we would always love them and treat them like family despite our disagreement with how they choose to live. I hope I was able to bring closure to my aunt's fears. Make no mistake that we should not condone or accept any sin, but let this tragedy be a lesson to all of us to treat others the way we would want to be treated, with love, in the face of all our disagreements. Christ would undoubtedly do the same.

I enjoy the miraculous plays as well, but we've got youtube and the highlight clips for that. No, because those can actually keep my interest since there's always something going on that's pre-planned out. Most of the time with sports there aren't any huge plays, and it gets to be quite boring. I find this is especially true with soccer, where goals are few and far between.

That's ridiculous on so many levels.

That's only applicable to the ones who cast God aside for temporal knowledge.

Was this corporate, or just your store?

I'd just like to clarify that there is a difference between forcing someone to do good, and forcing someone to not do evil.

couldn't have said it better myself. Would you like to contribute, wingnut? No one has commented on his earlier confusing one as of yet, so feel free.

I just wish the government would be more efficient about these costs. Is that really so much to ask, to stick to a budget?

Doubtful. Looks like they just chose to use "he" instead of "he/she"

I have a lot of fun playing when I get the chance, but I never understood the appeal of watching someone else play and getting all anxious about events you can't control which go on behind a TV screen. Obviously there is appeal in going to a live game because half of the entertainment is in the atmosphere and social aspects of it, and not just the game itself. So why exactly do all you sports buffs love to sit behind the tube and root for a team to win, to the point where it's so melodramatic that it appears as though life and death are hanging in the balance?

Oh. Perhaps I should clarify. You have to comment on the last song posted before yours. That way it guarantees someone gets a listen out of it, as well as an evaluation.

You, sir, clearly do not know how to read instructions. I hope your wife does all the assembling in your house.

Yeah, PAM. GET INVOLVED. Good, I succeeded. And that's alright if you can't. Chances are someone will comment on it before you can, though. lol.

I LOVE YOU FOR POSTING KENSHIN. I have the first season box set. My only disappointment is that is wasn't censored like it was when it aired on Toonami many years ago. That's the best theme imo as well. Although, the English opener is just plain annoying. Here's one of my favorite video game theme songs. YouTube - Tales of the Abyss Japanese Opening- Karma Vocal Version

NOBODY LOVES ME T_T hahahahahahaha. oh my lol. This was brilliant.

Beautiful voice. I like how the music has been stripped down, it really shows off her talent. The percussion build into the strings is really cool as well. It's got me tapping my hands on the table. I just ordered this today. This song blew me away. I think you'll like it, Tarnished. It's got a lot of Celtic vibe to it. It's like a combination of Muse and Nightwish.

HATE HATE HATE HATE khgjhfjgfjygfyu Sooooo bad.

Do whatever you want. haha.

Feel free to contribute anyway! The whole point is musical exposure. New or old is welcome. Remember, Saldrin's still needs to be looked at.

Haha, it's all good. I'll let someone else chime in on yours.

No opinion?