john doe

I believe part of the answer lies somewhere in the sizes and numbers in quorums. In general, Elders far outnumber High Priests in most wards.

I don't have answers for you, but there are some things to consider: 1. You can check with your bishop on this, but I don't believe she can get a sealing cancellation without your permission, especially if you are in good standing with the church. 2. Do you really want to be sealed for eternity to someone who doesn't want to be sealed to you? 3. I don't believe that God will force 2 people to be together who do not want to be sealed to each other.

If she has not been sealed to anyone else, it's pretty straightforward. I imagine it would be the same as the first time around. If she has been sealed to someone else, then that sealing would need to be canceled before you could be sealed to her.

I didn't say you have an agenda. What I said is that I don't think anyone here has one against you. I don't have any idea why you would think that you are defending yourself. I was responding to your allegations of there being some core group of people out to get you in some way. If anyone was put on the defensive it was me, since you were the one making the allegations. I was attempting to explain why you received the kind of treatment you did. You can accept that or not, but the fact is you are the one going on the offensive here, not me. I'm done with this subject. In fact, I'm closing this thread. You can PM me if you want to continue talking about this, and you know about the 'report post' button. Use it if you feel so inclined, and the mod team will discuss it and take appropriate action if they feel it is needed.

As do I.

I didn't look just now, but I don't remember anyone accusing you of lying to your priesthood leaders. Your claimed situation was highly unusual and it was asked what they thought of it. At least that is my recollection of the conversation. Again, trolls come here quite often claiming all kinds of outlandish things. Rarely do their assertions turn out to be true. There was no reference point with you, so questions were asked. You took offense to those questions. I don't believe there is a core group that doesn't like you. I think there are some who are biased based on they way you have responded to them and others. I suspect you probably think that I have some sort of agenda against you. That is absolutely not true, but I certainly get that vibe from you.

I submit that most likely you misread both the poster and the words that poster wrote, and chose to take offense based on preconceived notions you held toward that person previously. The parts that I read were misconstructions and mischaracterizations of what was actually written by that poster. And this leads to what I see is a problem. New people come here and start making statements about things in the Church that are just not seen in the everyday LDS scene. You for example, came back after 3 years on hiatus and stated that you are living with a man you are not married to, but you consider him to be your husband and then state that you attend the temple often. And then you tell us that you have been told you can be sealed to this guy who won't marry you after he dies. You have to admit that this is a highly unusual situation that you are in, and that it does not exist in normal LDS culture. You were rightfully questioned about it, since most here had never heard of such a thing being allowed. You see, we get lots of trolls who come here making outlandish statements about the Church, and as a new person whom none of us had interacted with, we had no idea if you were serious or trying to play us. I submit that you chose to take offense to the questioning of your veracity instead of patiently explaining your situation in a rational way. You chose to be offended instead of realizing that your situation is highly unusual and mostly unheard of. And I also submit that to this day you choose to be offended by those who questioned your veracity at that time. And you choose to be judgemental of those whom you claim are rigidly judgemental.

Thread closed, OP no longer among us.

There is rarely 'new' doctrine simply because the doctrine is laid out in the scriptures. We have a rough enough time keeping the current commandments and understanding the doctrine we have, why would the Lord overload us with new stuff?

But it's much more fun to start fights based on what we read instead of what is written.

Has no one here listened to General Conference? You can find all kinds of pearls of wisdom there. No, it doesn't have to be the huge might bulb revelation moment, but they are talking all the time about how we can make our lives better or insights to the eternities. Elder Oaks gave an excellent talk on Desire in the April 2011 Conference. Every month in Priesthood we review one of those talks and how they relate to us personally.

I blame George Bush and the Military/industrial complex. This would never have happened if Democrats had been in charge in Congress for the past 50 years. Now it's too late and everyone reading this today will be dead within 200 years.

And we're done here. A reading of the site rules would be helpful to posters especially since they agreed to them when they signed up for this site.

I think you will find a lot of down to earth people here.

What do you mean by this? Please explain.

Congrats! I've been to Northern Utah before. Be sure to take warm clothes for the winter months.

A sealing does not force people to be bound together for eternity who do not wish for it. They still have to accept it and decide for themselves if that is what they really want for it to be binding. We are merely providing them that opportunity if they so choose.

Welcome back to the site.

From our Articles of Faith: To claim that we put very little weight on the Bible is blatantly false. To claim that we doubt the content is blatantly false. However, to claim that the KJV, or any other version contains the fulness of the Gospel and that the Bible is inerrant, is pure fallacy. Even Bible scholars will agree that many passages found in various versions don't fully match each other. As LDS, when we are in doubt as to a certain Bible scripture's veracity or meaning, we look for help in alternate or original translations of that passage from more reliable texts and modern revelation through Prophets of God. Your premise is flawed, making this conversation moot.

Thanks guys!

I'm not sure who you're saying is gullible in this story, the Idahoans who pointed out that you couldn't fit $500 worth of potatoes in your car or you for thinking you could.

Yeah, it's great of you live on or near a bus line that goes where you want to go, can afford the fare, and don't plan on traveling after dark. Plus you get the satisfaction of giving money to a system where the top employees make far more than they should and board members use inside information to buy land for future sale to the system at a tidy profit.

Oh, I talk about it all the time. Just not here.

So everyone who drives is stupid, uncaring, ignorant, and self-centered? Got it.

Huh, I didn't know we could talk about people who voted for change in the last election. As far as I know political discussion is still forbidden.