EarlJibbs

No dispute from me. It is hard to find another example that would be a perfect match, and I do admit that my comparisons have flaws. My parallel is however, that each one checks off a list. There is nothing on the list to check off that when approving something that says "Do you personally think these two should get... [a loan/get married]?" And, I say all of this supporting marriage between a man and woman.

More on the front lines than say.... your logger and electrician. Pffft.

By the way Anatess, I love your posts. This is just a rare time that I do not agree. Can you clarify what you mean by "approve or denies" actually entails? How does she approve or deny of a marriage? I assume this doesn't meant she actually approves (EG "I've known you for years and this is a good decision" or "I read up on your past and notice that you are abusive, so I don't approve this marriage") that they should get married, but that she signs documents based on a list of set requirements set by the state. What things are checked before she approves the marriage? I just want to see where directly her religious beliefs are challenged. Let's say you work in the mortgage industry. I underwrite a loan requested by a couple that state they are married. Their names are Jim and Leslie and their genders are Male and Female. They qualify under the guidelines to get a loan so I give them a loan. Now the same scenario, but the couple on the application, although identical in every way on paper, says the name Leslie and Margie. They have both put their gender and female. How can I in good conscience, being a God fearing person approve this loan. Are my religious beliefs being challenged? Am I taking a direct part in what I believe is immoral?

I have no love for the law that was passed and how it was passed. I would have much respect for this lady if she stood her ground stating that it wasn't passed legally or that the persons that created the law overreached their authority. From elected officials, I would have hoped for something like that. The fact that when she was elected this wasn't a law, has nothing to do with it. Laws change all the time; abortion, divorce, marriage, speed limits, talking and driving while on a cell phone.... Some could go against our beliefs and the rest do not. This was, in the eyes of law, and her job, another change that could happen. Her position is not to give the opinion that "I think you should be married or not", it is a clerks position, to make sure qualifications are met and issue a piece of paper. The definition of a clerk in general is "a person employed in an office or bank to keep records and accounts and to undertake other routine administrative duties:" Administrative duties. I am not pacified, I am simply just not convinced that her job to service gays and lesbians pieces of paper infringes on her belief. The paper doesn't say she morally supports gay marriage. She doesn't have to attend the wedding. This has as much to do with her beliefs as it does me selling a hammer to Joe and Steve as they hold hands.

Not South Texas? :)

Respectfully speaking, I don't like your analogy. It has nothing to do with not "saying anything about it" and I never mentioned that we just keep our mouths shut. I have an appreciation for our law system (even if flawed) due to the time spent overseas and seeing in broad daylight the corruption and cruelty of another nations police. So yes, if I see my daughter making out with her boyfriend and then I see a brothel... what is wrong with being grateful that is not my daughter? If I see that she is heading down the same path that would lead her to prostitution, I can address that. The same way, I can address society issues if I feel that they are heading down the path of other cruel nations. What I say is this; I live in Houston, although I love Utah, the police in Utah have no affect on me in Houston. I will focus on my own City/Town/Neighborhood and protest here if I feel it necessary. I won't go badger the police here because of national media portrays an entire system bad. The police are made up of our own, not some busybody in a different state, Not some murderer in a different state. The national Media has created a frenzy, which has, as a result escalated to the point where now, people feel entitled to murder police on the streets. Or at least, that is what they would have us believe.

I think anyone that complains about the Police in general in the United States, needs to visit somewhere like Venezuela. Those guys are intense and corrupt. That doesn't mean that some agencies don't have issues though. Can all of the cop shootings that are reported in the media really be a wide spread collaborated event nationwide? The media would surely have us think so. The thing is, when you turn off the TV and live only in your community, does the world seem so bad? Media makes the US feel like one big city IMO. So now, what is blown out of proportion (or not) on the opposite side of the US, someone on the other side decides to take it out on their local police, which has/had nothing to do with it. Seriously, I feel safe in my neighborhood (very racially mixed by the way), and I am in Houston, where a cop was just gunned down the other day at a gas station. We all have to place this "national crisis" into perspective. Why was this police officer killed? Does it really have to do with a national outrage that is fueled by the media? Maybe so. In the end, are police heroes? Well, the ones from MY community serving ME certainly do a lot that I never hear about. and again, in my opinion, this is when you know they are doing a good job. What happens in a different City or State, although concerning, shouldn't affect my community. What concerns me is my community.

Just watched Goonies last night. What a great classic movie. As I am watching, I ask my wife who the main kid is. I am disappointing I did't recognize Rudy/Samwise Gamgee. Who doesn't like Sean Austin?

I enjoyed it Anatess. He keeps a good even pace on each item he adds. I was waiting for something slightly off beat or something that didn't match the song, which I didn't hear. Congrats.

I agree with Pam. The same small things that help us slowly grow roots in the gospel and become more firm to move on to larger commitments like Baptism and the Temple, if not done on a regular basis can lead to the opposite - Slowly degrading our roots from the base so much that the entire tree topples over. The fact that there may be a trend of not paying tithing before going inactive can be tracked, but there is nothing that tracks personal prayer, scripture study...etc. I am afraid that what they think they have found is nothing more than a late alarm on an already degraded root system.

I have always thought the stock market a form of gambling. Sure, there is a lot of research that should be done to place your money in the best spot, but in the end...gambling IMO. I invested in a silver mine a while back based on the assumption that silver prices would rise. I did my research and the trend was after an election year silver prices go up. Also, the company was doing well. Shortly after I got in they found main silver vein and I was up at +55% at one point. The temptation was to get out since I was that far ahead. Hmmm, sounds like gambling to me. An environmental group illegally blocked further exploration and I was certain the company would overcome the issue but the stocks went to -20% of my original investment. So I doubled down and bought it even cheaper. They regained their ground to the point that I basically broke even and I cashed out. Short term or long term, there is a lot that can happen and most of it is completely out of your control. We invest based on best guess and research. In the end, you cross your fingers and hope for the best outcome. Gambling.

Definitely remind me of Death Cab for Cutie, with a more video game vibe to the tunes. I will have to check out the others you mentioned. I have heard the Shins and I like them. I think I have heard of Chvrches but will have to see.

I used to listen to a lot of punk. I have toned it down but still do enjoy me some MXPX and Mr T Experience. In the last 5-6 years I have been into some folk with the Avette Brothers. My all time favorite music is from the Faded Paper Figures (check there early albums out) and Regina Spektor (check her later albums out).

I didn't mind speaking in other wards when I was on the High Council, but I was about 20 years younger than most other members. My Stake had myself and another 33 year old on it and I think that we presented more animated talks. I think that if you are going to be speaking so much, and to members that you don't always see, it would be good to study up on public speaking and ways to keep an audience awake and alert.

Sounds like you do know what to do. There are a lot of people who prepare faithfully to go on a mission, only to stumble shortly before they are age eligible to go on a mission. Don't place yourself in a situation that you will regret.

I like the other comments made. I just wanted to add that although I know that your post is about the negative issues with your husband and the list you provided is not all inclusive, that list of good items is pretty small, but pretty powerful. From your list, if he could change the hygiene/health, I think everything else should be workable.

Weren't there 3 old ones as well? I know there was at least two old ones.

Since the new versions came out, here in Houston, I have only seen the new ones. How many are there? 3 or 4? I have seen two so far.

What truly sickens me is the mob mentality of social media. So let's say this guy killed an animal illegally. Sure, he should pay a price and that price should hurt enough that he doesn't do it again, but that should be determined by the country that this happened in first off. This guys life might be ruined because of the media on this. So now the internet will serve justice to this man (which affects his family) without any rules of law being followed, we judge and destroy people on minimal facts. Social justice seems to be in full affect in the US. I truly hope that I or anyone I love never makes a mistake that ends up on social media. Cyber bullying at it's worst!!

I do love the title of this thread. I thought briefly that the question was about jumping (a surprise planned fight) an entire scout troop.

CNN has it on their site now.

Welcome Nastar!

It may or may not. But I can tell you that either way that it will feel right if you do get delayed, and worth it. Don't carry it. Is the girl a member also?

That article was published in 1991. I can't imagine what has happened since then.

Yes, please talk to your Bishop. I wonder if the technology available is appropriate for such matters. Smart phone apps have some good translating technology behind them. You could even prepare and print out what you want to say before hand in the native language, just to make sure the Bishop understands completely why you are there and what has transpired.