The Folk Prophet
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True or False? According to Joseph Smith, animal sacrifice must be re-instigated before the end in order to fulfill all things?
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It reminds me a bit of the discussion had here on the Relief Society activities in "uppity" homes where the older ladies were offended that the younger girls didn't dress up. It is interesting because there is definitely a generational thing at play in some regards. It really is a respect thing. However, there is a distinct difference between expected respect imposed by a perceived societal standard and showing respect for deity and religion.
Being a Generation X-er myself, I have a hard time caring about dressing up for opera. I don't see any need to show respect for the venue and the uppity, old-minded, highfalutin'ness of it all. Showing respect for God and religion is a very different matter to me. (Note: I probably would dress up for the opera though, not to show respect, but because I like dressing up. How many opportunities are there, really, to wear formal clothes in life? (and I'm not talking Sunday best...I'm talking "formal" formal wear)).
Yes, they both come down to societal and cultural expectations, but the focus of the respect is different, and that matters I think.
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These I Will Make My Leaders - James E. Faust, October 1980 Conference
Counseling together as leaders is the key to the successful functioning of a presidency or a bishopric. But what if unity in decision making is difficult or is absent? President Joseph F. Smith gave us this advice:
“When bishops and their counselors do not see eye to eye, or when presidents and their counselors have any difference whatever in their sentiments or in their policy, it is their duty to get together, to go before the Lord together and humble themselves before him until they get revelation from the Lord and see the truth alike, that they may go before their people unitedly” (Gospel Doctrine, p. 156).
I think this really only needs apply if disagreements are moderately severe and the issue at hand matters greatly. In many cases, I cannot see any reason why I, were I a counselor of some sort, in disagreeing with my bishop or president, should not simply defer to him and his mantle.
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...but if you are saying I am not wanted because I can't afford to look as nice as everyone else, regardless of my intentions, then I don't know what to tell you.
Where on earth did you get that from what I said?
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When I see someone at church I am simply happy they are there.
That's like saying when someone's in school I'm just glad they're there, even though they didn't bring any text books, notebooks, don't bother listening, etc...
Coming to church is not the end all of soul-saving. We should be concerned with the salvation of people's souls. Someone who dresses disrespectfully at church concerns me because I worry about their attitude and what they're getting out of church. Yes...reserve judgement...get to know them, be friendly, don't wish they would stop coming, etc.... But no, I'm not going to wave it off as I'm just glad they're there. I can be glad they're there and still want to influence them for even greater good, greater humility, greater faith, and a greater ability to draw close to our Father in Heaven.
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How to preside is clearly specified in D&C 121
41 No apower or influence can or ought to be maintained by virtue of the bpriesthood, only by cpersuasion, by dlong-suffering, by gentleness and meekness, and by love unfeigned;
42 By akindness, and pure bknowledge, which shall greatly enlarge the csoul without dhypocrisy, and without eguile—
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It's not about calories it's about nutrition. If a person is not getting the nutrients they need, the body will be in starvation mode and hang on to the weight. Dead food (doesn't expire for a good while) does not have any nutrients. Real food (goes bad within days) does.
Also, most wheat (and corn) is gmo's. Dairy is major allergen and is laden with hormones. It's also pasteurized which kills the good stuff so only sugar is left. Furthermore, I'm speaking from experience (stopped eating those things and the weight fell off quickly with no effort). I've also read a number of books and listened to a lot of classes on health so I do know something about this. I still stand by my earlier post.
I'm not saying your suggestion wouldn't work. Just saying it's not the only means. I also speak from experience, if you want to go there. But this is a thread jack. So I won't respond again.
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Also meant respectfully, the first half of what you say completely disagrees with the 2nd half.
There ARE lots and lots of different usable & effective plans for both eating right & weight loss.
Not just calorie control.
That's just one method.
(Edited, tmi)
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There is are different ways to eat healthy. Weight loss (which is not always healthy) is about calorie control. There is no contradiction.
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But would Jesus even care about the attire, if you came with a willing heart and a listening ear? The most poor have no good clothes, would they be excluded because they are poor?
If you came with a "willing heart" (aka humble) then you would wear respectful clothing as part of that. No one should judge someone for dressing down if that's all they have. It's when they dress lazy and disrespectfully, when they could full well do otherwise with a bit of attitude adjustment, where there is an issue.
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It's hard if you tell yourself it's hard. TFP is right - what you eat is most of the problem/solution. Eat only real food (God-made = water, nuts, veges, some fruit, some meat) and stay away from sugar, dairy and breads/pasta/cereal. Basically, if it doesn't grow, it's not food. See if your library has "The Gabriel Method" by John Gabriel (one of many good books on this).
Respectfully, this is opinion and only one approach to health, and certainly NOT the only approach to weight loss. I very much disagree that you should stay away from dairy and bread -- though it is one view that some follow. If you are lactose intolerant or gluten sensative, sure... Some cereals are healthy, and whole-wheat pasta is perfectly fine. The bottom line is that a person can maintain a whole lot of fat eating "real" food.
There are lots of different usable plans for eating right, but when it comes to weight loss, the bottom line is calorie control.
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I suppose in all honesty I'd only use the word crotchety in terms of "old-fashioned, intolerant, and narrow-minded", but your explanation of yourself I would describe as becoming more devout.
Right...except I would think that so-called liberal Mormons would debate that.
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I wish I had some advice. I can't imagine. That's so tough. You have it right on trusting the Lord. Lean on him for How to help the children too. Be in tune with the Spirit. A lot of prayer, obviously. Beyond that, there are probably resources. Books? Counseling? Etc... Wish I could help more.
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Just for curiosity, what definitions do you go by?
I guess I'd have to say...I usually try to go by the dictionary. :) Heheh. Let's see (posted below)... With conservative I'm definately meaning #2 (with a bit of #3 I suppose), and with liberal I go with #4 and #5 I guess. Hmm.
*shrug*
Specific to this thread, however, I do not mean anything to do with politics at all. I mean what PC originally referred to, being "old-fashioned, intolerant, and narrow-minded". I'm talking about how I am more reserved. Less likely to allow anything potentially spiritual harmful into my life. More in sync with stringent and even sometimes harsh philosophies of obedience, discipline, and general straight-and-narrow thinking. Straight-laced. Up-tight. Strict. Etc.
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con·serv·a·tive [kuh
n-sur-vuh-tiv] Show IPAadjective1.disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.2.cautiously moderate or purposefully low: a conservative estimate.3.traditional in style or manner; avoiding novelty or showiness: conservative suit.4.( often initial capital letter ) of or pertaining to the Conservative party.5.( initial capital letter ) of, pertaining to, or characteristic of Conservative Jews or Conservative Judaism.lib·er·al [lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl] Show IPAadjective1.favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.2.( often initial capital letter ) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.3.of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism, especially the freedom of the individual and governmental guarantees of individual rights and liberties.4.favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, especially as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.5.favoring or permitting freedom of action, especially with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers. -
2. I need to lose weight. - Attractiveness is important to her and with an additional 25 pounds I am not as attractive. BTW it is really hard to lose weight. I have spent the last couple months going to the GYM and working out and I have lost 10 lbs.
Bodies are built in the kitchen, or so the saying goes. You cannot exercise away a bad diet. Plain and simple.
That being said, 10 lbs in a couple of months is very good. Anything more than 2 lbs a week is unhealthy. Consistency is the key. Keep at it. Fix dietary issues. You'll get there and more.
I do want to re-iterate though. Not wanting sex with you because of 25 lbs... I don't think so. There are deeper issues involved here. I'm not saying don't bother getting in shape. Do. It's good for you and respectful of your spouse.
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What am I supposed to say? That one day I could embrace a belief totally alien to what I believe now?
I would hope that you would open your mind up ever so slightly so as to be able to see and admit exactly that. Your consistent repetition of the I'll-never-change mantra implies stubbornness. And, I believe, holding such an attitude limits one's potential growth.
You're certainly entitled to believe as you would. This is my thoughts on it though -- for what they're worth. :)
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...and don't see that ever changing.
You say that a lot.
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By my interpretation of the definitions given by anatess I'm actually more morally liberal as I age because the societal traditions around me at large are more and more corrupt. I'm more concerned with my own ability to make decisions for myself and not having society collectively decide what is and is not acceptable.
This is fascinating. If we look at liberalism as opposition to cultural tradition then eventually the new liberalism becomes the old conservatism and what was once old conservatism could now be new liberalism.
That being said, I reject those definitions. :)
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I wouldn't even approach the issues of the marriage from a sex-filled or sexless point of view. The issues of the marriage seem much deeper than that. A sexual relationship will not fix the marriage. Fixing the marriage will generate the sexual relationship.
Where would I start? Fix this first:
In general we struggle with the basic things (Prayer, Reading the scriptures, FHE etc.). We also haven't been to the temple in a long time (we both have current recommends).
Then work on this:
I admit we don't have date nights.
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Let me define these terms because I know America uses these a lot of times as political party agendas instead of its basic definition.
Liberal - Individual Liberty trumps Societal tradition, culture, mores.
Conservative - Societal tradition, culture, mores trump the Individual.
I appreciated your response. But to be clear as to my intent, I specifically mean moral conservatism and liberalism. Sometimes moral conservatism/liberalism crosses into the political. Sometimes it does not. I can't say my political view has changed much at all. But I am definitely less likely to let a movie into my home that expresses questionable standards, for example. Whether laws should control the creation of said movies...????
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OK, JAG will now be taking a hiatus to work on his reading comprehension skills.
Blame TFP for his convoluted writing and formatting styles.
Financial question plus another
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Go with the debt free thing. Absolutely, no question! You will not regret it.