Alaskagain

Welcome!

I really liked the Sister Beck's talk. I find myself ironing more.

please, let's not forget to include the "young grandpa" types too!

Fiddle faddle is good! Miss, here is my blankie and teddy bear too!

I am (or have been) a daughter in law, mother in law, sister in law. Some detest(ed) me, some love(d) me, some tolerate(d) me. Parents need to let go at the appropriate time. This does not mean they no longer have contact with their child. This means they allow for marital decisions and responsibilities to take precedence in their child's life. (Same goes for siblings. ) If my married children come to my house with their spouses and start talking about their personal problems, I will give my opinion and offer my advice even if they don't ask me for it. I don't insist they follow my advice, I merely offer it. Getting another viewpoint might help in their working out the problems. If my married children come to my house without their spouses and start talking about their personal problems, I direct them back to their spouse for further discussion, unless there is a factor of personal safety or danger to children involved. If my married children don't want my advice or opinion, they should not bring up their personal problems in my presence, especially in my home. They know this. If I am at the homes of my married children, I try to emphasize everything positive, and say thank you a lot. If my inlaws seem to be too preoccupied with the details of my life with their loved one, I try to gently remind them of the natural order of precedence which relationships should follow (according to me)- spouse, children, parents, siblings. I allow for ebb and flow, due to illness or other hardship, offering temporary fluctuations in priorities. I try to say things like "Joe and I discussed this, and we agreed that . . . " or, "Joe wants it done this way, and since he is my husband and I love him dearly, that is the way I am doing this. You are such a great (father, mother, sister) for worrying about us! " We are one big family, we just all need our particular space! (I must admit, though, there are a couple of people I am very glad are no longer my in-laws.)

I can feel your frustration, Geek! Are you using PAF software, or are you working from paper only? You can use Temple Ready, even though it is old. In fact, you HAVE to use it to prepare a disk/thumbdrive for the temple cards. If you are only working on a small number of names, you do not have to use PAF Insight at all. You can sign in to the IGI at FamilySearch, and do your own search. I do suggest multiple searches - one with only a name and area (North America, etc), then only a name with a spouse name, then a name and a birth year, etc. Once you are SURE the work has not been done, then you can prepare a small file for the temple to use, on a disk or thumbdrive. Just export the 2 or 3 people from your PAF file that you want submit to the temple, and save them to a gedcom on a writeable disk or thumbdrive. Run the Temple Ready program using that small file. Then save an extra backup copy, and take it to the temple, where cards will be printed. No, you will not need PAF Insight after the new program is in use in your temple district. I have a bit of insight, but no Insight. Once the new program is online in your temple district, most of this maze of confusion will be eradicated! If none of this makes sense to you, or if I can help you get your information ready to take to the temple, feel free to email or PM me! I love this stuff. . . .:)

Oh, Pushka, no, that is not the church program. That is a for profit company. You won't need a paid subscription for the NewFamilySearch software. You will need to register though. Currently, unless your temple district is on line, or you are a registered Family History Consultant for your ward or branch, I don't think you can access NewFamilySearch yet. The information on it will be what is on the current FamilySearch.org (the IGI, Pedigree Resource File, etc.) only it will be displayed in a family tree/pedigree chart format. I discourage you from spending money on the Ancestry.com subscription. The UK has a tremendous Birth-Marriage-Death index that volunteers have put together, and it is FREE. ---> FreeBMD Home Page. You might also check your local library for advice on where to get copies of records for your family. They might have public records on microfilm right there. added: Havejoy -- Have you been able to log on yet? - I was able to access it well before 72 hours had elapsed! Oh, and Darrell, I am in Raleigh NC temple district. We are supposed to be on line "in April". Don't know if that means Tuesday!

Money never even entered the equation for me, when thinking about the OP. Helping to take care of others requires so much more than money. It requires time and emotional energy invested in the other person. It is befriending someone, sharing their problems, looking for possible solutions, uplifting them, giving them hope, letting them know you care what happens to them. Everyone needs to feel they matter. A simple smile, handshake, or hug is more important than money and can make a difference in the day of a despairing brother or sister.

A suggestion -- invest in a sewing machine and fabric instead of ready-made clothes. And tell your local retailer that you won't be buying the products they have in their store because their children's clothing is not acceptable to you. If people don't buy the stuff, they will eventually stop carrying it.

lol, leeann, actuallly i didn't mean for mine to sound so stern. I am very practical - i don't wear makeup much either. . . . it sounds like you are working at a place where you can learn a lot and be successful. You obviously do a great job - you got a raise already! Good luck to you!:)

Is your friend collecting unemployment benefits, or working "on the side" and getting paid in cash? . .but your friend should talk more at length with his bishop about it. There are probably more factors than we are aware of, such as the possibility that the friend has turned down opportunities for work, or other unknowns.

Leanne, when you went on your job interview, did you not notice what people were wearing in the office? The definition of appropriate clothing depends entirely where you are, and what you are going to be doing. A banking or financial office catering to upscale corporate clientele is certainly going to require nicer office clothes than the local storefront insurance agency. And hosiery and makeup are a part of the finished image your employer obviously wants to present. As far as the makeup goes, even if you are not in the habit of wearing it daily, a bit of powder and a dab of mascara will help achieve the final "polish" that your boss is wanting the office to exhibit. If you don't like your dress code, get another job, unless you like cashing your paycheck more than worrying about what you have to wear.

Generally, no tank tops, bare shoulders, bare midriffs, spaghetti straps, sundresses, mini-skirts. Clothing should not be excessively tight. Skirts/dresses/shorts should reach the knees. Shirts/blouses/dresses should have capped sleeves at a minimum, and no plunging necklines. Scoop necks are generally "safe". Use the basic temple garment design as your guide for coverage. That doesn't mean you have to throw out everything in your closet. And it doesn't mean frumpy, either! Layer, layer, layer. It's stylish and easy. Especially with the lighter-weight t-shirts and camis that are available. For example, wear a short sleeved t-shirt under a sundress with mini straps, or even a sleeveless dress and you have a nice modest jumper. You can add a couple of inches of contrasting fabric or ruffled cotton eyelet to the hem of a skirt that is too short. Wear a long sleeved shirt over a sleeveless dress, unbuttoned like a jacket. Wear a sleeveless top or tank top over sleeved shirt. My young office mate often wears 3 shirts - a cami or different color tee under another tee, topped with a cropped jacket or sweater - she is very stylish and modest and not LDS. Have fun shopping!

This page provides a list of services available:: LDS Family Services The link to Counseling services in that section: Counseling services To quote from it: "LDS Family Services has 57 offices throughout the United States and 12 international offices in Canada, Great Britain, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Mexico, Chile, and Brazil available to provide counseling services to individuals, couples, and families. The professional counseling staff hold a master's degree in the behavioral sciences at a minimum." (There is a fee charged for these services, although in hardship cases, financial assistance may be available.) You would have to check with your local bishop or branch president to find out what services are available in your area.

You could copy photographs of the family and make them a family tree photo album/scrapbook, the first pages being of them as a young married couple, and then one of them recently. Then on second page their first child's wedding pictures and so on with their babies, grandchild's wedding picture and babies, etc. Just one picture of each couple, and one of each of their children. Maybe you could do that in a week. Especially if your aunts, uncles, cousins could email you the pictures. If you don't have a picture, you could write something about that person for their page.

Thanks! I have read that before, I have been taught that before, and it just was not clicking with me tonight. I have always looked to my Bishops for spiritual guidance moreso than temporal, so I see them in more of the "spiritual Father" of the ward aspect. But that is on an individual level, and yes, of course, they administer the temporal necessities of the ward and for the business of the church as far as they are responsible.

I would put "mind/will/emotion" under spirit. We were spirit children before we obtained mortal bodies, and had the ability to feel and make decisions. The soul is the entity that exists when the spirit and the physical body are combined. It is different and more than either part on its own. Second part, yes it is through our spirit that we are able to "connect" with God, and feel the influence of the Holy Spirit. (JMO- what makes sense to me.)

Are you sure RayA? I think the Bishop's responsibility also includes the spiritual welfare of his ward. It is at the very minimum, an area of his concern. He may not be trained as a counselor in any specific area, but he has been called to be a Bishop. He receives the mantle of the Bishop, which gives him insight and a spirit of discernment in order to guide those in his ward. A humble bishop can certainly give valid and valuable counsel in any number of sensitive areas such as those listed in the OP. A humble bishop will also be inspired to call in for more expert assistance as needed. If I were facing a marriage crisis, I would talk to my Bishop first, and then if needed, go to a marriage counselor.

hmmm. I don't have a source for this, but I remember hearing the definition of a Soul as being the combination of the spirit and the physical body.

Oh. It was a parody. A literary or artistic work that imitates the characteristic style of an author or a work for comic effect or ridicule.Your goal is not to weaken but to ridicule?While many of us hold different beliefs as to how much divine intervention takes place regarding the miniscule details of our daily lives, it seems inappropriate to mock someone who is genuinely trying to help. Am I misinterpreting your intent? Added: (I might be wrong. But maybe we could take this up in another thread or PM's, so as not to further derail Aphrodite's thread?)

To answer your original question, I believe very deeply. If a panel of scientists or other wise/educated/reputable men came to me with what appeared to them to be incontrovertable proof that the Book of Mormon was a false document, or that there was no God, or that Moses of the Bible never existed, I am very sure I would tell them they were mistaken. I have been blessed with a sure knowledge of these things. I am grateful for that knowledge, and for the trials which have made me more aware of and have confirmed that knowledge. That knowledge is more than a "feeling" or emotional response; it is more than an intellectual state. It is knowledge that encompasses my whole being in a way that no other fact or emotion can. I do not know why some are required to work very hard to obtain answers to their questions regarding spiritual things. Although full and complete answers are never truly easy to obtain, some aspects of the answers come easily to some people. Perhaps it is because we are all unique individuals. You asked at one point "why do so many different people have different spiritual knowledge revealed to them as the truth?" My personal view is that people receive the answers they are ready to receive. Everyone is in a different "place", or on a different track. Everyone learns at a different pace. Many people receive a personal confirmation that a concept is true. They can take that concept and grow with it, and continue to seek and find more truth, or they can hold on to that one concept, satisfied that they have all the truth they need. Someone might bring them another concept as truth, and they will say, "It conflicts with the truth I already have." When in actuality, the second concept is reached by using the first as a building block. And among those of the first group who continue to seek, many reach certain truths at a different speed or depth than their neighbor, and stop along the way to nurse one or the other of a particular concept, for various reasons. DS, you are reading, you are going to church, you are loving your wife and supportive of her in her religion. You are on a good track. It seems sometimes that you are impatient for an answer. Fasting is a great idea. Many religions across the world use fasting as a spiritual exercise. Is, then, the concept of fasting a universal truth (or tool) in obtaining spiritual growth and recognizing spiritual things? I am confident that you will receive answers, perhaps even in unexpected ways. What is most important is that all of us keep seeking humbly to add to our spiritual knowledge. (We have a phrase, "line upon line" . . . :)) Reading through your thread has humbled me this evening. Thank you for starting it.

Kona, they won't contact you. You have to keep contacting them. You have to form a group or find an existing group of people who don't like that law and want it changed. Then you have to contact them some more. They figure you will just give up and go home. If you do, they won't ever change the law.

I can understand not being able to talk politics at work (and other places too!) Shouldn't everyone should discuss political situations with their friends, and especially with their families? There are appropriate times to do this - one-on-one, neighborhood meetings, family home evenings. Politics begins at the local level. Political control begins at the local level. The very least we can do as citizens of wherever we live is to be involved with our neighborhood government units - school boards, city councils, etc. And to vote when the opportunity to cast a ballot is presented - it doesn't matter whether it is for a presidential race, city council, or bond issue - ever single time the polls are open, you should educate yourself on the issue, and be there to vote. We need to be the overseers of the government and not sit back and let the government oversee us. (At least those of us who live in a democratic republic or under a similar governmental structure.) Because there are many who are willing to let those already in power make the laws with no input from the average citizen, we are ending up (in the US) with laws that erode our freedoms. And that is one contribution to the "hanging by a thread" scenario - the failure of citizens to be involved. If I don't feel I can make my voice heard, I have no shyness in joining a group of other like-minded citizens. My representatives in Washington, D.C. and my state capital and my county board of commissioners know how I stand on important issues, including the various forms of taxation. Do yours?

Small steps, big canyons. HoosierGuy, sometimes you just have to close your eyes and jump.

Hi HoosierGuy! Best place to start is by going to FamilySearch.org In the right column, click the "get started" link. Then in the left sidebar, click on "Family Group Records", download it and print it out. Fill out all the information you have on your dad and mom, and the Husband and Wife on this form. Then contact your Ward Family History Consultant, who will help you with the final paperwork you need. (If you don't know who that is, ask your Home Teacher, or the Missionaries)