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Eowyn I did post that I liked your post. But in reality I hate the idea that that buffoon would sit on the Supreme Court. I have never seen anyone in such a position know less about law than him. And his reputation for honesty and veracity? A perfect zero. I certainly hope and pray that does not happen. I think he has disgraced the nation sufficiently already. dc

Gator We all, Mirkwood included have faith that that character will continue to do his usual evil whenever and wherever possible. dc

Well you know that won't happen as the appointer has one major thing in mind, which is throwing the Constitution out the window. dc

I think, definitely if you disagree, that would be the perfect basis for saying nothing. There is absolutely no reason to get into a political argument at church. dc

He would like capable farm girls. A girl who knew her way around the farm. dc

I thought everyone could skate backwards, one of my earliest sports was ice hockey, which I gave up in later years. And wrappers delight. What was that, I guess I missed that. Did you have a Christmas season job at the department store (gift wrap department)? dc

Well, C.O. if he had been a "good" "liberal" he would have called you an extremist first, then said he didn't want to talk about it anymore. dc

You may choose to pigeon-hole it as extremism, if that's the way you want to see things, but it's just truth. dc

It sounds like Eowyn is saying something cruel and offensive here. But, at some time you have to take responsibility for yourself in your course in mortality. dc

There is an understatement. Anatess you impress me as extremely intelligent and well educated, and with a great power of discernment. So the job you do with your children is as I see it, going to be far and above what the average American parent is going to do. So one way or another your children are going to come out on top. I agree where the parents have far lesser talents, public school is probably the better idea. But I also agree with Lehi that public school is indoctrination and not much else. And I disagree with Prison Chaplain that prison has been successful in any way other than to educate the criminals on how to better commit crimes. A school for crime if you will. dc

A lady I talked to one day told me her plan now was that they had to pack up and move to another city, and leave no forwarding address. The (Catholic) school had called her that morning. Her son was beating up his sister, including banging her head on the concrete because she had worn his shirt to school that day. So yes, there is one that would occur either in school or home schooling, as it was an in family dispute. dc

Now somebody here twice said something about kids leaving school. Or the parents take them out of school to work on the farm like the good old days. Or, if they are 13 and want to leave, they can go on to manual labor. That is really a good idea. I do know many people who didn't like school, dropped out, and went to work on the farm or elsewhere. And immediately recognized that school was not so bad after all, and that they wanted back into school. And many did go back and make use of a good education later in life. It's a good lesson for any young man, or woman for that matter. School is easy compared to farm work, or most any job. dc

Ah, Lehi, it all reminds me of my good old days in public school. I think it was the first grade where my crayons were stolen. But I was able to fast identify the thief. She used a black crayon to black out my name on the crayons. And then write her name. I used my fingernail to scrape off the black cover and there was my name. First grade detective. I was chagrined that she did not receive corporeal punishment. But she was a very poor sad little kid. dc

I'm attending Big People and Little people Institute/Adult Gospel Study. And Big People Sunday School, Gospel Doctrine. I have checked out Seminary and Institute manuals. One of them has coloring book illustrations. And is simple. And brief. But they have the message. I need a little more than that, but it helps if I only have 10 minutes to study. dc

I have read it through, from cover to cover. Twice. A little dry reading. But I'm not done yet. It is true and all good stuff, but I need the classes like this year, Gospel Doctrine on the Book of Mormon. It gets me into the specifics of it, and certain topics and points. I have been recommended to The Book of Mormon Made Easy. I haven't found it but it may be too easy there. Last night I found a good one on the Tree of Life. David Bednar talk from 2011 on Lehi's Dream. Also I'm going to institute/adult gospel and that helps. I need the questions and the direction to a verse that says a particular thing. That helps me to learn. But it will take a great deal of time. dc

Sounds like anti cop anarchist and wacko. "The protests are working"? Yeah, to get the looters a new tv. I have heard those stories all my life, in the paper, on tv, etc. Cops in many areas have been notorious for toy drives for underprivileged children at Christmas, going back to the early '50s that I know of. And helping people after accidents or thefts all year round. The only odd thing here was 79 years old, and calling the cops. But it still goes what I said about me not calling the cops here. This is the urban jungle (not my term). dc

Lehi I don't know why people just assume that the government can and will do things more efficiently. My experience has been that across the board anything the government does is usually done in the least efficient manner. But the most costly and time consuming. dc

I was witness to rather horrible and apparently sexually involved abuse as a child in a Catholic school. I do believe after a year or two that I knew of, the woman (Nun?) was removed, probably only to another school. I don't know what authority removed her. Most of us would not speak out even upon questioning, as having been threatened with death and eternal damnation if we did. But that was the '50s. Today it would certainly be grounds for criminal prosecution and lawsuits. dc

I didn't make that implication at all. However, I did get the impression that you were saying that public schools are some type of nirvana and that to suggest anything to the contrary was some type of blasphemy, and a personal attack on you. If you do recognize that then you know why people are not so enamored of public schools. dc

Well, Eowyn I did not label, describe, categorize or generalize that anyone, your kids or any other kids were "lowest common denominator". And I did not say you are a bad mother, I also did not say you don't love your kids. I just want to indicate to you that you might want to look into what your kids are being exposed to at school. And on tv. Children will be exposed to a lowest common denominator of culture in school and on tv, which will include a whole host of stuff (not good stuff) that they would not be exposed to in home schooling, if the parents are good. If the parents are bad then who knows what they will learn. And as to Prison Chaplain, your comment about welfare schools, yes, many people pay taxes and then in addition pay tuition to go to school and never get any advantage out of the tax money for schools that they must by law pay. dc

Eowyn I could agree with you if the ratio was 50% in public school and 50% home school. However I think the ratio is about 9 to 1 or so, so of course the vast majority of complaints will come about from public school. dc

I'm not following you at all Neuro. I do see this as a pretend "only cops do this" type of story. As there are many more non cops that do this every day, as does our church, and no doubt many other churches and organizations. Is that what you are getting at? dc

It has been said, maybe even by me, that public school is a place where kids go to be raised by other kids, and that thus they they receive a lowest common denominator of culture. And I think that is true. I have a lady from Mexico, strongly JW, and quite successful in business. With four adult children. Who are rather good kids, tho' not so financially successful. They said no discipline was ever necessary with them. Their mother gave them a certain look that brought them into order fast. dc It reminds me of my wife. She said, before she married me, that I had a look where she thought I was looking right through her. She could not keep any secret from me. That look would bring it out. I do look at people with the attempt to look inside them (their head and thoughts). Sometimes it works, sometimes it's way off.

More good ideas Anatess, I thank you. However, if I make it to 79 I may be in the same boat. As I have no relatives at all. However, I'd never call the police. I may call the Bishop, or someone in the ward. From what I've seen of my ward and stake, I think they might help me. A little. dc Around here, if I called the police the only thing they'd do is seize my guns and then make off with my last few candy bars.

Getting back to being a good parent, I think you did a good job Anatess. I think, and I don't have kids, never did, but I think getting some information of why the youngster had a headache at school is a good idea. Getting to the bottom of the cause might be a good idea. dc My father taught me a lesson when I was a kid, he wanted me to not get into the same problem he had. He related that he had a problem beating up other kids. As is usual, the kids would make fun of his name, as they do with anyone. And he would react with violence toward them. He was a bigger athletic kid. But that after a while (and lord only knows what else) he learned that if you don't react, if you don't let it bother you, they stop doing it. So that was his advice to me. I don't know if I ever took the advice to action, but I never beat up any of the other kids. Unless they needed it by starting a fight with me. Maybe I'm like Porter Rockwell, a little. dc