Amillia

It's wierd. I don't understand the level of "disconnect" from this son to his loving and loyal mother. This is a woman who bent over backwards for her family always. She always made a big deal out of birthdays and special occasions. Created a fun and stable home. Worked her rear off when her husband lost his job. I remember the year NO one in her family (kids or husband) remembered her birthday. She was soooooo devastated. No. This is a woman who would definitely want her husband to eventually remarry, but who would turn over in her grave if she knew her son was trying to find a replacement for her husband so soon. If you don't understand why this upsets me than we differ greatly on how we view relationships. I wonder if the son is being overwhelmed by his father's grief, it is really hardest on the children because they probably can't go to their grieving father for support of their own grief. Maybe this son just thought if Dad got over it, he would be there more for them. Grieving does take alot out of the family life.

I think Strawberry has a point. There are those out there looking to take advantage of the vulnerable. But each person and experience is different. I think Blessed says it best, it isn't our place to judge anyone, but we need to support them.

Four months after thirty years? Come on! It's not normal. I don't know that I would be more or less grieved at 10 years, 20 years or 50 years. If you really love this person, time doesn't make the love. I think that if the father is still grieving, the son is doing whatever he can to help his dad through it. I just don't get your anger here. Like Lindy suggested, maybe the mother instructed her son to help the father find someone.

It's a good question. Did the Lord give any specific instructions on the right hand thing? I've only heard conflicting opinions of various priesthood holders. Did you notice the talk given by Elder Nelson I posted?

It's a good question. Did the Lord give any specific instructions on the right hand thing? I've only heard conflicting opinions of various priesthood holders. Do you believe our leaders are the servants of the Lord? Or do they just make up stuff arbitrarily on important ordinance performances? D&C 1: 38 38 What I the Lord have spoken, I have spoken, and I excuse not myself; and though the heavens and the earth pass away, my aword• shall not pass away, but shall all be bfulfilled, whether by mine own cvoice• or by the dvoice• of my eservants•, it is the fsame.

Why would the study of how the world came into being, set strictly upon scientific studies. Why not religious studies. Why guess and theorized in science as to how it all came about, and not give a little of the guess work to the creationist's ideas.Science is supposed to be a study of concrete evidential facts. Yet coming up with a big bang theory is considered science. It is totally stupid.

Gorillas and chimps didn't become us. Aiyaiyaiyaiyai....read a few reliable books for heaven's sake! I don't know; I've met some folks... Yeah. Quite a few are driving out there on the freeway as we speak!

What does happiness do for you? What does excitement do for you? What does anger do for you? What do any of our human emotions do for us? They are all a part of the human experience, and are God given. Being in complete denial of any of them is to deny our humanity. We don't ignore them. We deal with them and THEN move on. These six children are all grown. If my little brother were out fixing my dad up four months after my mom's death--I'd take it as a great sign of disrespect to my mom. After a year or two, I'd probably be looking too. I don't think we can put a time on how long it takes to grieve. If one was dying for a long time, much of the grieving has already been done for the length of the time they knew of the impending death. Also, grief is personal, yet you have decide when this guy has a right to stop. You are all over the place on this on Curvette.

I was asking a question! Where did I say I was sure of myself. Before you act all sure of yourself about me, get your facts!

Well I guess if the Lord puts up all of his doctrines and ordinances up to random interpretations and applications and doesn't care. Neither do I.But why would the Lord even bother to give any instructions at all? Why doesn't He just put out the idea and tell everyone to take it from there? Can there be a spirit of a law without a law? And is there such a thing as a spiritual law which is left to any interpreation or application?

I had a similar experience with a doctor who tried to convince me that I couldn't carry one of my son's because I had a prolapsed uterus. I had that baby and several more after. It never did cause any problems.

When I had my puppy poisoned, I didn't get over it until I got an new one. That was four years.When we lose someone, it is important not to make it our focus, or it will take us over. The matter with your way of thinking is that you think it is all here and now. The one who died has moved on, isn't grieving over the family left behind. They are in a better place. The grief is really about ourselves in the first place. So why not take care of it with moving on also. What does grief do for you? What does it do for the one who died? What does it do for those 6 children? I had a friend who remarried after 6 months and he kept the mother of his children's birthday celebrated and at that time each year they would celebrate what a wonderful person she was and what she had done for all of them. I think celebrating a person after they die is so much more healthy and wonderful than mourning them by shutting down on life and moping around, speaking of the dead person only in sadness.

There is a scripture in the BoM, can't remember the site off the top of my head, but it says something like "God grants to man according to his desires" (meaning the man's desires). I like to think that God let's people be who they are and set their own standards for excellence and happiness. Obviously, many set them quite low, but that is its own reward. I think that is deep Cal. Very interesting thought.

Perhaps its the words themselves you are reacting to and not the actual concepts. So tell me what it is like in England that makes things so different there. Well, as you can tell by my addition of LOL and the Englander bit wasn't supposed to be taken seriously... I still maintain that the idea of reducing people to numbers seems somewhat distasteful to me, sort of like going into a department store and choosing your ideal partner by the size/state written on the coathanger!!! I'm sure there are men/women all over the place who do treat their prospective partners this way, I would have hoped that it is not the norm, but as long as it isn't happening to me in my relationships then I shouldn't worry if that's what other people are choosing to do...and they will bear the consequences of the choices they make. Perhaps I've been 'off the scene' for too long to know what the selection methods are these days...I tend to spend my time mingling among socialists and anarchists, and trying to change the world to take any notice of how big a man's wallet is, or how finely turned out and pretty a woman is....like I said...it's all ALIEN to me, more like the toffs down in London It's not that men and women even understand what they are doing. They may not recognize their motives. But the stats show that this is generally the pattern. No one is condemning it nor condoning it, as far as I am concerned. It's just nature being nature. What stats? Show some.

What if the man lets his looks go (in my dh's case, his belly!)? I have to disagree with the rule. Men do marry for looks, but not all women marry for money. I didn't. My dh was as poor as dirt, but handsome as Kurt Russel. I'm not talking about the exceptions. The exceptions don't change the rule. Who says which is the exception and which is the rule?

Keep us posted.

Thank goodness! And, yes, the pendulum swings---I wonder if anybody seriously thinks God cares who wins football games? However, mine gives a slight preference to Arizona State--He loves them Sun Devils! Now you sound like my dh.

I recently saw a underwater birthing movie which stated it was still used in many homeopathic clinics.

I don't have a problem with intra-species evolution, but there just isn't proof that we descended from gorillas or chimpanzees. There isn't even "proof" that birds or reptiles descended from dinosaurs, although, I admit, those are the closest they have come to proving. Do you know that half of the "human fossils" you listed are dead ends? Detours? A sub-species that we did not descend from? I do find human evolution interesting. I like to watch the specials on Discovery, etc., and learn quite a bit from them. But what I have learned is that, so far, they have not found anything that connects us to chimps. If the gorilla and chimp specy became us, why are they still in an unevolved state? Why did some become human and others just stay what they were for thousands of thousands of years? It doesn't make sense.

What movie? the one in the title of this thread. you are not following the messages properly. you 've already asked me if i was married after having replied plenty to a former post in which i more than stated my situation. You are so right. It takes some more time to familiarize with names and people and story. But I will get it eventually. :)

I am not aware of other religions/denominations that require this of salvation...please inform me. Well, we believe it. That's another one. Unless you are just lumping all restoration churches together. He has already revealed much more than you are willing to accept. Well, that is debatable. I don't believe that anything that goes against already-existing scripture is true. God does not change, he is the same yesterday, today and forever. He is the same, but is our understanding and knowledge given of him the same? I think you have confused the two.

Personally I don't think anyone, or most anyone, has "concrete" knowledge. I don't. I have an assurance that ebbs and flows with energy and devotion I put into it. A very solid assurance but not concrete. Do you believe JS had concrete knowledge? How? What form?

Personally I don't think anyone, or most anyone, has "concrete" knowledge. I don't. I have an assurance that ebbs and flows with energy and devotion I put into it. A very solid assurance but not concrete. What would you consider concrete? Visitations? Visions? The Voice? Or what?

I am fasting today for other reasons, but I will add your names to my efforts.

Good question!