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I agree. 
With that in mind, here I remain unvaccinated.
I have spoken with medical professionals inside our stake, with a bag of mixed answers, speculation and best guesses... none of which are virologist.
The Church suggests speaking not just to a medical professional but a 'competent' one. Does that mean, like actual virologist competent or just primary care physician competent? What about Lab Technician competent? What about Walgreens/CVC pharmacy competent?  Or milk, eggs and the jab at the grocery store competent?
I wonder how many people went and got the vaccine without consulting an actual competent medical professional first?

Equally curious. If a doctor said, "You don't need the vaccine"... would you even listen to their advice or would you try to perhaps, lets say, discredit them instead?
Also, what happened to the rest of the handbook guidance... "and also seek the guidance of the Holy Ghost."?
So... what should an individual do if a medical professional says 'get the vaccine', but the Holy Ghost says 'not now'?

Equally curious. If a doctor said, "You don't need the vaccine"... would you even listen to their advice or would you try to perhaps, lets say, discredit them instead?
Also, what happened to the rest of the handbook guidance... "and also seek the guidance of the Holy Ghost."?
So... what should an individual do if a medical professional says 'get the vaccine', but the Holy Ghost says 'not now'?

I agree. 
With that in mind, here I remain unvaccinated.
I have spoken with medical professionals inside our stake, with a bag of mixed answers, speculation and best guesses... none of which are virologist.
The Church suggests speaking not just to a medical professional but a 'competent' one. Does that mean, like actual virologist competent or just primary care physician competent? What about Lab Technician competent? What about Walgreens/CVC pharmacy competent?  Or milk, eggs and the jab at the grocery store competent?
I wonder how many people went and got the vaccine without consulting an actual competent medical professional first?

You're a good arguing buddy.
I not only got the vaccine without consulting a competent medical professional, I signed up for the Moderna phase III trial without even asking anyone.  I suppose competent medical professionals were involved, as my age and medical history would have prevented me from being in Phase I or II.

I agree. 
With that in mind, here I remain unvaccinated.
I have spoken with medical professionals inside our stake, with a bag of mixed answers, speculation and best guesses... none of which are virologist.
The Church suggests speaking not just to a medical professional but a 'competent' one. Does that mean, like actual virologist competent or just primary care physician competent? What about Lab Technician competent? What about Walgreens/CVC pharmacy competent?  Or milk, eggs and the jab at the grocery store competent?
I wonder how many people went and got the vaccine without consulting an actual competent medical professional first?

I agree. 
With that in mind, here I remain unvaccinated.
I have spoken with medical professionals inside our stake, with a bag of mixed answers, speculation and best guesses... none of which are virologist.
The Church suggests speaking not just to a medical professional but a 'competent' one. Does that mean, like actual virologist competent or just primary care physician competent? What about Lab Technician competent? What about Walgreens/CVC pharmacy competent?  Or milk, eggs and the jab at the grocery store competent?
I wonder how many people went and got the vaccine without consulting an actual competent medical professional first?

This.  This times a million.

Senator and physician Rand Paul recently said:

What was said:
What some believe they actually heard:
 

Thank you. I do find Washington Post comment about how in communities where Spanish Flu spread it became less lethal with no vaccines, and the vaccines they were trying according to another article on the history of vaccines for Spanish it says the following:
 
I guess, no vaccine and yet human condition overcame. I find that more telling.

My brother and sister-in-law in California were amongst the first to get Covid. They are actually part of the major studies in California and were also part of where they were able to see how it distributed to California residents in San Diego. When I recently spoke with my sister-in-law she mentioned how her anti-body count was significantly still higher than those who are now getting the virus. I find that interesting. Her anti-body count is also higher than those with the vaccine.
Now, to be fair and honest, despite their high anti-body count they both decided to get the vaccine because their anti-body count was getting lower, but I wonder if that also has to do with how much plasma -- anti-bodies -- from themselves they have donated. And because their count is so high they keep getting asked to come back and donate. They were part of the plasma donations in the beginning in California for people who were getting Covid.

Senator and physician Rand Paul recently said:

What was said:
What some believe they actually heard:
 

I think that is an individual choice based on individual conditions.  To say a blanket statement is not really taking into account a LOT of variables.
I think you may have confused your concept of what I've stated with what I actually stated in the past. 
I said that I have a medical condition that makes it unfavorable for ME to take many vaccines.  If other people want to get a vaccine, that's fine by me.  But because you don't agree with my medical exemption, you think I'm anti-vax, and proceed to shame and ridicule me.  It's a free country.  You can do that.

Depends on the vaccine.  If they came out with an AIDS vaccine tomorrow, I'd be kinda skeptical.

5 have had the vaccine.  10 have not said what they did.  The OFFICIAL handbook of the church says:
 
38.7.13
Vaccinations
Vaccinations administered by competent medical professionals protect health and preserve life. Members of the Church are encouraged to safeguard themselves, their children, and their communities through vaccination.
Ultimately, individuals are responsible to make their own decisions about vaccination. If members have concerns, they should counsel with competent medical professionals and also seek the guidance of the Holy Ghost.
 
 Seems like an awful lot of finger wagging going on in the Church these days.
 
 
 
 

99-99.5% survival rate worldwide.
 
 
 

This is not possible, look at what our lovely President Biden had to say about being vaccinated (watch at 7:10). Maybe, just maybe, President Biden needs a Fact Checker to fact check him and manipulate what he said into a positive light. 😛
I think we live in a very interesting time where people -- are likely to be forced -- to get something for their protection that actually kills them. What a great world where we feel safer to end someones life for "their protection." Yes, that is a little cynical, but that's where we are. It's OK if the vaccine kills a few, as long as I am safe.

I don't know what it is about trying to force an injection upon people that just doesn't sit well with them? 
Greece:

France:

Desert News shared the following:
Probably the same vibe that area authorities get, 'decide what is best for your area' is my guess. 

Them pesky Americans, at it again. 
In other news... pesky Australians appear to be demanding liberty too. 


 

I think it would be interesting to record a mission farewell talk and their homecoming talk and then to listen to both the second following the first just to experience the difference.
 
The Traveler

It is surreal to think I am already at the age of having the privilege and opportunity to listen to my oldest give a talk after serving a full-time mission. Sadly, I haven't been sick all this year and the first time I am sick is the Sunday he is speaking. Fortunately, there is a Zoom meeting I will still be able to view and listen to him.
I am looking forward to hearing the increase the Lord has given my son by the power of his Holy Spirit. I hope that he will continue to cherish the experiences and personal revelation he has received, and that he will continue to remain faithful to the Lord.

I've had a careful look and I think they're all a bunch of American tourists who happened to be in Sydney last week. You can tell by the absence of beer bottles.