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  1. Only one point? You don't believe that virtue signaling masks is bad as well?
  2. I'm not sure why this concept is difficult to explain. I thought it is very simple. Jesus was conceived by the power of God UNDER A MARITAL COVENANT. Jesus was not an exception to that covenant requirement. Jesus being conceived ONLY through the blood of Mary and nobody else's does not render Mary and Joseph's Marital Covenant unnecessary to righteousness in the exact same manner that Jesus' sinless mortal existence does not render his Baptism unnecessary to righteousness. The entire Catholic Church - Roman and Greek - teach it. The annunciation of the angel Gabriel was not the same event as the conception. They are two separate festivals in the Catholic Church. Also, @Vort believes this to be an LDS teaching. The people that contradict this teaching are the Protestant Apologists who use it as a rebuttal to the Catholic teaching of perpetual virginity.... and you.
  3. Mary being sealed to the Father has zero backing in scripture. The God Jesus is eternally sealed to our Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother by virtue of Him being the son of God The Father before his mortal life on earth. His mortal birth under the marital covenant of Mary and Joseph does not change that fact.
  4. Did you watch the video? I highly recommend watching it to the very end.
  5. I never "argued with you about it". I tagged you on the OSHA guidelines and several studies that shows that before the politicization of the covid-19 pandemic OSHA plus several other studies which I all linked shows Respirators is what you need to stop an airborn virus, disposable surgical masks is what you need to stop a fluid-born contaminant, and reusable cloth masks does you more harm than good. As a matter of fact, WHO and the CDC issued an article back in March that mask use in the general public is inefective and while N95 masks are marginally effective, they should be reserved for fronliners. In any case, you can present your doctors if you like. The fact remains that the issue of home made face masks actually stopping an infection rather than just giving you a psychological feeling of safety is DEFINITELY not scientifically proven and therefore, MormonGator's Virtue Signaling Doctor meme that you liked is nothing but that - a Virtue Signaling Meme. Which brings me to the main point of this thread - government mandates, especially on something without the backing of solid science, should be avoided as much as possible. And to reiterate: You can wear your mask. But it is not good to gaslight others to wear one by posting virtue signaling memes.
  6. I have presented OSHA regulations, several studies, etc. etc. dated PRIOR to the politicization of covid-19 that shows you that RESPIRATORS stop airborn virii, disposable surgical masks can stop fluid-born virii while cloth masks are ineffective. Reusable cloth masks only prevent transmission in 3% of the cases in the study and provide a higher risk of OTHER health risks such as accumulation of moisture in the mask that increases the risk of bacterial infection as well as a reduction of O2 content of inhalation (lower than the OSHA requirement even). You keep on saying this. Tests are available nationwide. You should get tested if you think you have it. In any case, this is a VIRUS. We call prolific videos Viral Videos for a reason - you can't stop it from spreading. I have found it such a product of our Clown World for the panic to focus every waking second on stopping a viral infection rather than SURVIVING a viral infection.
  7. Because in Jewish Cultural Tradition (not Godly Covenant) - cultural consequences are meted out for deviation from ceremonial tradition. Just because it is improper for a Jew to pull an oxen from the ditch on the Sabbath doesn't make pulling oxen out of ditches on a Sabbath unrighteous. It has been clear from all Biblical teachings before and after the restoration that the righteous Godly pattern is for children to be conceived under a Marital Covenant. This has not changed and it never will. To make the claim that the conception of Jesus deviated from this Godly pattern is absurd.
  8. What strawman? Ohhh... if somebody sits on the other side of your discussion table then we are in contention. I thought conservatives have no use for safe spaces. I guess mask-wearing is how the progressives has dragged conservatives into their virtue signaling methods.
  9. I already did above. Like I said - the DOWRY has nothing at all to do with a Marital Covenant. Just because you haven't given the dowry yet doesn't mean you have not made the marital covenant when you signed the contract.
  10. You might want to get out more. You are using the word Liberal in the same manner antifa uses the word Anti-Fascism. IT HAS NO BEARING to the ACTUAL meaning of the word... You are simply using Liberalism as a word salad to label "those people over there" (which is inapplicable to the entire world who has no clue who those people are over there). Liberalism has a meaning. For example - George Washington and the rest of the Founding Fathers were liberals.
  11. The espousement was the MARITAL COVENANT and the beginning of the CULTURAL MARITAL CEREMONY. IT MATTERS in the same way that a perfect Christ had to be baptized - TO FULFILL ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS.
  12. Oh yeah... "majority" of doctors also claim gender differences is a social construct... and prepubescent hormone therapy is awesome... and hydrochloroquine will kill you.... and rambunctious boys should take ritalin... And just so you know... new boxes of surgical masks itself has a caution - will not prevent corona virii. And here's a logic question - if homemade masks prevent transmission by (as falsely claimed) 80%... why are cities with mask ordinances from May still have comparable infection rates? And why did cities release people out of prison instead of making prisoners wear masks? And why are cities with mandated mask ordinances still put "non-essential" businesses and public parks and libraries on lock down? And just because you're conservative does not make the point of "government mandates not followed by government personnel who demanded the mandate" disappear. Nobody is telling you to stop wearing your mask. We are telling you to stop gaslighting people who choose not to wear one.
  13. One more time... CULTURAL CEREMONY versus MARITAL COVENANT. IT MATTERS. Jesus was not conceived OUT OF WEDLOCK which does not FULFILL ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS.
  14. Well... at least they stated they're also cracking down on violence caused by their own community members. On a side note... I find it super stupid for investigative reporters to report on camera with a mask on. It drastically reduces my ability to understand what he's saying. It's you and your cameraman... the camera has a zoom lens and you're holding a microphone. He obviously was not worried about the guy being interviewed not wearing a mask. If your camera man is worried about your virus he can stand 20 feet out and still video capture.
  15. Will they fit in a priority mail box? 😅
  16. That's EXACTLY how it is used in the Bible and Jewish culture. I don't know who those Biblical Scholars are that you mentioned. And your interpretation of what Russel M. Nelson stated is questionable. There is CULTURAL MARRIAGE and there is SPIRITUAL MARRIAGE. The preparation of a dowry has NOTHING at all to do with the SPIRITUAL marriage that starts as soon as both sides sign their names to the marital contract. If you want to compare it to modern times, you can go have your fancy royal-like wedding with reception and bridezilla moments and days and days of parties... you are not married UNTIL you sign that marital contract. What does it mean that Joseph and Mary were espoused? “Espousal among the Hebrews was significantly more binding than are our engagements today. It was entered into by written agreement and was considered the formal beginning of the marriage itself. While the couple might not actually live together for as much as a year after the betrothal—a time designed to allow the bride to prepare her dowry—the espousal was as legally binding as the formal marriage” (Gerald N. Lund, in Celebration of Christmas: A Collection of Stories, Poems, Essays, and Traditions by Favorite LDS Authors [1988], 31).
  17. @MormonGator, @JohnsonJones, @Midwest LDS: And here's another one:
  18. @MormonGator, @JohnsonJones, @Midwest LDS And here's proof that the authorities that are mandating the masks are full of excrement:
  19. I'm going to answer this even if this is not the point of GOVERNMENT MANDATED masks. @JohnsonJones and @Midwest LDS might also want to take note. DOCTOR Glaucomflecken, if he is a REAL doctor, would know that mask regulations have been in place since forever and a day in Medical Offices as well as non-medical facilities as OSHA guidelines. You can go to the OSHA website if you like and read up on their mask regulations. Here's some excerpts: Facemask—A loose-fitting, disposable device that creates a physical barrier between the mouth and nose of the wearer and potential contaminants in the immediate environment. Facemasks may be labeled as surgical, laser, isolation, dental, or medical procedure masks and are cleared by the FDA for marketing. They may come with or without a face shield. Facemasks do not seal tightly to the wearer’s face, do not provide the wearer with a reliable level of protection from inhaling smaller airborne particles, and are not considered respiratory protection. Respirators are designed and regulated to provide a known level of protection when used within the context of a comprehensive and effective respiratory protection program (see the “Types of Respiratory Protection” section on page 15). For example, filtering facepiece respirators are designed to seal tightly to the face when the proper model and size is selected for the individual by using a fit test procedure. The wearer can then be assured that inhaled air is forced through the filtering material, which allows contaminants to be captured and reduces exposure to both large droplets and small infectious particles. Here's an article comprised of facemask studies from 1946 to 2018: Excerpt: Disposable medical masks (also known as surgical masks) are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids (36). There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza. Here's a study on reusable cloth face masks versus disposable surgical mask back in 2015 that shows cloth masks is 95% ineffective: Excerpt: The rates of all infection outcomes were highest in the cloth mask arm, with the rate of ILI statistically significantly higher in the cloth mask arm (relative risk (RR)=13.00, 95% CI 1.69 to 100.07) compared with the medical mask arm. The results caution against the use of cloth masks. This is an important finding to inform occupational health and safety. Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection. Summary: Is summary - to protect a wearer or the patient from the Flu Vrius - you need a RESPIRATOR. Surgical masks only protect you and others from diseases carried by body fluids. Cloth face masks are NOT HEALTHY.
  20. es·pouse /iˈspouz/ verb past tense: espoused; past participle: espoused 1. adopt or support (a cause, belief, or way of life). "he turned his back on the modernism he had espoused in his youth" 2. ARCHAIC marry. "Edward had espoused the lady Grey"
  21. You place individual interpretation over the interpretation of the modern prophets. Wasn't it you (if I'm mistaken I apologize) that had a different understanding of the Plan of Salvation than what is presented in the temple rites?
  22. Ahhhhmm.... I wouldn't say that... your views on the Plan of Salvation, a foundational tenet of the restored gospel, is quite liberal* against the teachings of the Church. *see my post on what liberal means above.
  23. Here's the doppelganger of Brad Pitt, the concubine of Angelina Jolie... oh, wait...
  24. That's not what the data shows. Yes, you can have corona virus and be asymptomatic. This basically means that the replication of viral cells in your body is ably and successfully suppressed by your immune system such that it doesn't get the chance to cause an emergency response (such as fever) by your natural bodily functions. From the results of contact tracing so far, the chance of asymptomatic carriers passing enough viral cells outside of the body to cause somebody else (even those with weak immune systems) to contract it at such a volume as to cause covid symptoms has been zero. WHO data shows this. WHO, of course, went back on their statement stating what the data shows and takes the "We Really Don't Know" route. Why? Your guess is as good as mine - mine, of course, is... they've been waving false flags for so long their credibility is shot and so to avoid any more damage after the US pulled funding is to be non-committal to anything.
  25. Does it? I guess it also enforces purchasing car insurance? Is the seatbelt mandate to keep you from dying or is it to prevent rising cost of car insurance? Does it mandate buying a car?