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Thank you for your kind words Tammy...they're very reassuring.

Well said, Lisajo!

As I and other posters have said before, it is not the Communism, or Socialism that is at fault, it is the corrupt Governments that pretend to use socialism in order to oppress their people. Such as Stalin and the Chinese Government.

Never heard of it Ari...sorry.

1. Marx, Engels and Charles Dickens wrote about the society they saw BEFORE socialised health care came into being...notice that the UK has improved since the NHS began in 1947. 2. 'The us constitution does not have charity in it and it was inspired of the lord. ' Doesn't say much for The Lord's charitable attitude to the poor and needy does it...I thought better of Him. 3. 'charity the gospel way is all done willingly not forced trhough the government.' The Government that brought in the NHS was voted in by the people, it was not forced upon them, and the British people are in favour, generally, of increased income taxes to cover the needs of the NHS...unlike yourself. We believe in an EQUAL system where medical help is available to ALL, not just to the wealthy.

Reading this, I feel very sorrowful that I felt unable to visit my sister in law when she was nearing death from breast cancer. My daughter was in and out of hospital at the time, and this was a sort of 'excuse' for us not to be able to just pop in at anytime...unfortunately, my sister in law was in denial of her condition, and when I did see her, I felt guilty for almost knowing that she was not going to make it. I couldn't bring myself to just face her...towards the end, I really wanted to visit her, but her family had advised me to just ring her as she was quite ill, then I got a cold and thought it wouldn't be good to pass on my germs...I didn't know just how bad she was though. My family kept it from me, because I had previously been in hospital following a suicide attempt, and they didn't think I could take this as well...she died 2 days after I decided not to visit her for fear of passing on my cold...I shall always regret it... I'm sorry to bring this negative note to this thread, which is so uplifting. I still find it really hard to come to terms with my sister in law's death and cry whenever I think too hard about her or about cancer victims and their families.

Joyce McKinney did...Ooops...maybe she wasn't a Mormon afterall? Did she ever convert? anybody know? Anybody even remember her? LOL

Yeah! I've heard of it and downloaded the video when it was around...superbly funny stuff!!! Outshined, thanks for the interesting article re the artist from Rush...

I will try my best to be nice, as much as possible!! Apologies in advance to anyone who I might offend unintentionally..please let me know if I do this, so that I can make amends... :)

Thank you Outshined...sorry, I was feeling a little over sensitive and thought you were laughing at me and my ideas

Which bit are you laughing at Outshined?

Well Winnie...if you're in physical difficulties and someone offers to help clean your home, I would feel happy and proud about it, and if the people you explained to, that you had a home help, knew of your circumstances then they ought not to judge you as 'stuck up'.

I wonder why people like Charles Dickens wrote such books as Hard Times, and even A Christmas Carol...and why philanthropists in the UK, who were religiously motivated rather than politically, sought to ensure good housing and such for their workers when the slums of the previous century had to be demolished, people such as Cadbury and Rowntree... They really must have believed in the ideals that Dontagreeljefe adheres too... Hey! Dontagreeljefe, we welcome back the new Victorian Ages under your governance....whooppee!!!! 'Happy days are here again'...tell that to the little matchstick selling girl...

OH NO!!!! NOT THAT SAME JULIE ANDREWS WHO APPEARED TOPLESS IN S.O.B.!!!! S.O.B. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Jump to: navigation, search 'S.O.B. is a 1981 film written and directed by Blake Edwards starring Richard Mulligan and Julie Andrews. Robert Vaughn, Robert Preston, Larry Hagman, Shelley Winters, Loretta Swit, Robert Loggia and William Holden (in his last role) also appear. Spoiler warning: Plot and/or ending details follow. The story is a satire which is sharply critical of the film industry and Hollywood society. The main character, Felix Farmer (Mulligan) is a phenomenally successful producer-director who has just made the first flop of his career, to the dismay of the studio and the loss of his own sanity. After emerging from a period of shock and self-destructive behavior, he resolves to save both the film and his reputation. With great difficulty he persuades the studio and his wife Sally to allow him to revise the film as a soft-core pornographic feature. However, the egos of the filmmakers, the studio, and virtually everyone else in Hollywood continue to wreak havoc on the creative process... When writing the screenplay Edwards drew upon several of his own experiences. The character Felix Farmer is a person very similar to Edwards, and Sally Farmer is very similar to Julie Andrews, Edwards' wife in real-life. The story of S.O.B. strongly parallels the experiences of Edwards and Andrews in their infamous failure Darling Lili. Intended by Edwards to reveal Andrews' heretofore unseen wicked and sexy side, the film had a troubled shoot and went significantly over budget, and was subject to post-production studio interference. In S.O.B., Andrews's character agrees (with some pharmaceutical persuasion) to "show her boobies" in a scene in the film-within-the-film. For this last performance, late night television comedian Johnny Carson thanked Andrews for "showing us that the hills were still alive", alluding to her most famous line from the Sound of Music. Critical opinion on the merit of the film was sharply divided (it was nominated for a Golden Globe Award and two Razzie Awards) and remains so at this time. S.O.B. (in the film) stands for "Standard Operational Bullshit" and refers to misinformation being standard, usual, and the norm. The acronym also means sexually oriented business (if pertaining to strip clubs).' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.O.B. Surely we shouldn't be recommending listening to that 'wicked and sexy' (lifted from the article above) lady!!!

Phew! Lisajo, thanks for rescuing that thread!!!

I find this rather amusing my self,,,,, Only because last new years i was at a party a woman who ran the grocery store said to me MMMMMan i wish you were gay, You would be so perfect for me, Ok now i responded........ well sorry but my middle name is gay so maybe we can just be friends Not once did i go....look chick your going to hell cause your gay.......I thought it was flatering LOL , so what i'm getting at is ...............when you jump to judge it shows you truly don't know what you are juding, ← LOL...Nice story Lisajo!

ToasterOfen...I agree with you...yes, we ought to all think before we post, if a post angers us, at least count to 10 before posting a reply, then think about it and read it to yourself before pressing the submit button. Let's get some good vibes around here again!!! :)

Awww...don't spoil the fun Laureltree...I'm sure it will change back to topic soon enough :)

Well Said Winnie!

Ooops! I thought you were referring to this: 'To approach or accost someone with an offer of sexual services in return for payment.' http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=solicit ← No THAT's totally acceptable. I charge $5 for sex ← I'm sorry but you asked for this: Is that all it is worth? ← How differently the minds of men and women work...You see you took that as I was not worth much or maybe selling myself short....but to me and most men its a stratagey. Sell it cheap so you get more business. LOL Didnt you see the joke in what I wrote. 5bucks for sex and 1,400 dollars just to SNUGGLE!! come on, dont you know about how men hate to snuggle?! ← LOL Setheus...I know JUST what you mean!!! Fortunately for me, my current flingster doesn't object too much to my forced snuggles!! teehee.

Hmmm? Got me thinking too...wonder who it could be...any more clues Lisajo?

'People have survived for a long time without government funded medicine and the like.. Should be able to survive now without it as well.. http://www.onthefencefilms.com/video/deadmeat/ How many people are alive because of government funded medical needs. How many died because government didn't pay medical bills. ' Quote: Dontagreeljefe. I really cannot stand this 'I'm all right Jack' attitude towards health! When the NHS began in the UK in 1947, on its first day, the hospitals and doctors surgeries were unindated with patients who had stayed at home as they couldn't afford the doctors' fees, some had been in bed for up to 14 years because they were suffering from debilitating illnesses but couldn't afford to pay for a doctor to visit them. Would you really like this to happen again?

Sorry everyone, but I'm becoming a little obsessed by this thread...must be the devil in me! Anyway, I couldn't miss the opportunity to reprint the lyrics to a Satanic song from George Harrison, which I just happened to stumble upon..teehee... Here Goes: Song: Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth) Duration: 3.36 Track No.: 1 Composer: George Harrison Vocals: George Harrison Year: 1973--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lyrics: Give me love Give me love Give me peace on earth Give me light Give me life Keep me free from birth Give me hope Help me cope, with this heavy load Trying to, touch and reach you with, heart and soul OM M M M M M M M M M M M M M M M M My Lord . . . PLEASE take hold of my hand, that I might understand you Won't you please Oh won't you Give me love Give me love Give me peace on earth Give me light Give me life Keep me free from birth Give me hope Help me cope, with this heavy load Trying to, touch and reach you with, heart and soul OM M M M M M M M M M M M M M M M M My Lord . . . PLEASE take hold of my hand, that I might understand you See! proof that George Harrison was a satanist!!! in his own words...LOL

LOL...you may ask! I believe it was because the person in question worked for Target? Personally, although I don't follow religion now...apart from reading about it all the time on here and other websites!!! LOL, I have no objection to anything religious being around in public...as long as it's not preaching a gospel of hate and intolerance as some people appear to do in public!!

___________________________________There is more on Lennon than Harrison in the video. You might be interested in checking out the website yourself... www.goodfight.org. I couldn't find anything specifically about the Beatles or the Stones in print, and that's what I was looking for when I found the stuff on Ozzy. I don't think the ministry makes all that much money on their tapes...you can read more about them under "About Us". Look for the printed stuff under "Articles". There are video clips of different rock stars, particularly Harrison and Lennon, but I couldn't get it to work on my computer...perhaps you'd have better luck. Also, there may be alot on Manson (under Articles), and you might even find out the validity of the dog story. If you find some interesting stuff, be sure and let me know. ← Well, I've just watched the trailer for the video...all 28.30 minutes of it...and I'm afraid my conclusion is that it's all just sensationalist rubbish!! I enjoyed the clips of the artists in concert, particularly Robert Plant singing Stairway to Heaven which is one of my all time favourite songs...I would almost certainly bet that the 'spirit' speaking thru him saying all that weird stuff when parts of the performance are played backwards is just a con. for a start the words are too easy to hear...the diction too clear...playing songs backwards and trying to read messages into them was a great pasttime in the 60's but should have stayed there...sorry, I'm not convinced by that particular part of the trailer. I don't care for the allegations against John Lennon and Yoko Ono and their satanic sacrifices! I agree that they were both interested in astrology and tarot card readings, but satanists! Albert Goldman, the man who wrote a 'nasty' book about Elvis Presley too is not best known for his truthful biographies..he's just a sensationalist writer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Goldman Personally, I think to blame John Lennon's death on a supposed pact which he and Yoko Ono had made with the devil, in which they supposedly made a blood sacrifice, is disgusting! I take issue with the reference to Queen being satanists too...just because they happened to mention Beelzebub in their song Bohemian Rhapsody...this song wasn't autobiographical...Freddie Mercury was referring to a character in the song, not to himself...I think I would summise the same about most of the other lyrics which were quoted from other artists in this trailer. I only heard 1 artist refer to himself, directly on film, as being a satanist and of being possessed. As for Mick Jagger...yes, it's there for all to see...a great big illustration on his left arm, of a devilish face...plus many other illustrations on his chest and other arms...as Outshined suggested, these were most likely temporary tattooes, otherwise he must have gone thru great pain to have them removed in later life, and where's the scar tissue? Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones have always courted controversy, and Sympathy for the Devil was particularly used by them in this way...I truly do not believe that they were real devil worshippers...however, I don't mind doing some research into them to find out for sure...I have some old biographies of them here in the house somewhere, and will read online too. Personally, I find that watching this video trailer has renewed my interest in those artists, and inspired me to purchase some of their materials again...music, videos, books and interviews...as Outshine said again, they couldn't buy the sort of publicity that this website and its video are giving them...WELL DONE 'fight the good fight' LOL