Maya

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Welcome...enjoy! I speculate all too much thinks those closest to me... I like it and besides it is not that terrible if my speculation proves wrong. Some people just can not take any speculation... speculation is not clearing truths...it is.... just speculations..

Okfor all... remember it will all be ok at the end, just keep strong in faith and humblein heart. Isnt it great to be on the right road! May take a while to be completely back in the narrow path, but the direction is right... Even greatmen make mistakes...sometimes. And dont forget ...God loves you!

I suppose you know that Europe will soon be islamic.. since they and LDS are the only ones with bigger families. The last ones to become islamic looks like will be Northern countries and of them Finland is last since they have not taken so many refugies as the other scandinavian countries. You do know that UK is thinking of giving the islamic possibility to pluralmarriages...

Oh God my Redeemer.... by Jeff Godrich sung by Brett Raymond... I just love that! Sorry I have no words to say it better...

Could someone explain HOW COME it is so diffficult for some to even think that when we find arceolocigal findings they WONT bear the lable of Nephities or Lamanitise...or... but something else, but they stil are from them... some of them. Why should they read Nephis people build this or made this, in an old israelit language? It is interesting that by Usmachita river the lowland Maya moved north around 350 AD leaving many cities unhabited... Not mentoining that many of the cities around there were started around 600BC. Also Maya have a history that tells about a man coming to the land with a boat. He had many sons who all had their tribe that was called by their fathers name, except for one that had no sons. Also there is the story of the tree of life... This was conclutions from Maya conferance... Some people are stil waiting for a thing written about in the BoM, that bears a name from the BoM... they would prefere finding a note with the thing in English: owned by Nephi!

How strong I believe... strong! How can I know.... well I was born stubborn...my husband says I am the most stubborn person in the world...I think he is! And looks like the youngest has enherited oss both! Like .. I think it was Missy who said ... it is a question of to decide to believe! I decided and I am mighty stubborn. I also believe, that IF it was not truth God had put a stop to this a LONG time ago! But look around you... we are just growing and growing!! I believe my husband loves me and my kids... even though the sc logic might go against that sometimes.... but it in reality it is the human error. I am glad that he wanted to marry me forever, even though the seal is broken at the moment, but I do believe everythig will work out at the end. If I were you I would decide to give it a try. When you look at the LDS families and those partly LDS famileies and those non LDS families... Is there ANYTHING you might think that LDS families have more of in their life, than others? Anything you would like to have in YOUR family? Do you think it will work out between you two so none of you have to give in a bit?? Locigally thinking.... there is no logic in marrying out of "faith".

I have many good frends ...women ... that have devorced... they have stayed single as there is no men around. Maybe you should look outside USA borders.... I met my DH at 38he was 47. I met him in a church activity... stil we have two wonderful boys, you are only 35... you are still young, you have time... good hunting!

You do not enlighten so very much of the reasons of disowing your father. Sometimes these disowning things CAN be just mere mistakes. In my case I have two daughters that believe I did something I did NOT do... but they wont listen to me... other people know better. I am more or less disowned by them. Last time I saw my grandkids was 2years ago. It is so sad that because of a missunderstanding I loose the life of my grandchildren... it hurts. Sometimes if the person HAS done something bad it may be more difficult to forgive. Often the person who is excluded really want to be included. Many times as I have heard they repend honistly, but wont be forgiven. That hurts too. But then the bigger sin is on the one that wont frrgive. How many times we should forgive? Our saivior gave us an answer to that.

My testimony gorows all the time... I tought I had a strong testimony when I got babtized, and I think I did...somehow I just knew.... however, I could easily have decided that I didnot have any testimony. I am glad I decided to have a tesstimony and ahve not been worrying of small things that seem odd for me... things have got much clearer for me after a few years. I too could see that the apostasy might have happened, I could see that JS might have sen G, I could see that G had a body..... so I decided I believe and littleby littele I am learning to know... Welcome!

The other question is your family... I been living in the Church with a non member and believe me I hated every second of it. Ok you want to pull your family through a laundrymaskin (the one that irons) up to you. You might even winn some of them little by little on your side, like my ex did, so I lost them, the Church lost them, my ex is happy, I am sad. No mattter how hard the church and members try to help those feel welcome who have a husband that is not a member, they can not take away the loneliness. There is always two opinions to consider, every time. What does he think if I go to church, party, RS.... does he take care of the kids, does he mind or am I getting the mute treatment for 4 weeks after. And I would so much love to have him with to a churchparty, no matter if he is a member or not... does he come... I doubt it... Couple of members come to say hi...and he thinks they aretrying to convert him... nothing to discuss... everything is converting. Did you wash the dishes today? So very philosophical. I believe that the first man evolved from the sea.... oh really honey, ok... So very interesting. It is easier to be a divorced person in the church, you are free to choose if you want to go to the party, if you want to... you may even be asked and able to work in leadership as you do not any more have to take in to consideration anyonmes elses will than yours. But then... one day you may really be sorry... she may find someone else.... maybe there is no return. Very few manage to love someone whos out look on life is so totally different, but some do. What ever you decide I hope you and your family will come out of it well. Think if after a few years you notice you made a mistake..... Sometimes it is wiser to offer your life and beliefs for the family.... but not on the cost of everyones happyness and wellfair.

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Hi JJ and wel come!! I enjoy very much this siteand the frendship we share here that reaches over the whole earth! I wish we could have homeschool for our kids here in Norway. Would have been much better especially for my youngest! I think he would have enjoyed school much more now at 16 if I had been teaching him when he was little He could already read at 5 and as he began school at 6 the first thing he learned was that he did not need to be able to read yet! And as he was 9 the teacher made him errase many pages of math as they had not come there yet. THAT was the end of his schoolwork! He hates math! Since then he has not done homework but ocassionally. Only this year ...a bit more than usually... thanks to mom and dad who keep him by the collar, which he hates... this is his last year before Highschool, if he doesnot get good enough papers he wont be able to be what he wants .... I am really in need of a holiday!!!

Wonderful that you are back! It was interesting to read your intro. Thank you very much for sharing it! I will be sending prayers up for changing the heart of your husband!:) "Anyone who is ever questioning the faith, I would suggest focusing on how the gospel makes you a better person. If you do that, you'll always have a strong testimony, and you'll keep the spirit of Christ with you." Well said!!

Mole an animal living under ground, a mole month.... why? Is this a mole year??? My first tought as I read the subject... I think I have to have my sons mole cehcked, I doubt I have any.. at least they do not grow... I do have one patch though that I do ot like... but it is behind my shoulder so I can not see it. The doctor has looked at it , but that was all. Good reminder!

I was lutheran. I was 30 when babtised, my mother was very sad. I did not want to hurt her, but I KNEW that what I did was right. She has changed her view and thinks it is ok... It will be a difficult but right decition! It is your life...your eternal life in question.

Congratulations!! Actually I was sure I answered to this yesterday...ok now they call me to familyevenigprayer... well at least I had time to congratulate!! Groovy!!

That I will soon find something that is better than chiocholate and even more nurishing..... Well I think you got the idea. We all do wrong things and I think this sentance means that IF we want to avoid or fight the advesary, the Lord will help us to win over it! We all are tempted but have a possibility to winnover the temptations! I also think that as we are here on the nett and talk to many people about LDS... if someone is attacking us, it most often turns to our victory, IF well keep our cool. The victory may not be agreed by the adversary, but everyone can see it. When adversary has to start saying personal remarks and using bad language, you are in fact winning!

Welcome! This is a nice board and you can find many interesting threads here...all too many in fact... See you around...

We dont have Church aid here or stamps. Besides my husband is on pension so we would not ricieve anything anywhere.. even though his income here is not enough for living in this country...

In some places these days and people over certain age, can just be happy to HAVE a job to go to! Well I dont from August....

I am sure that willajke a difference. They can not take away a ss just because you earn... soooo much! I am sure this will turn out ok. Kona DONT give up! Go to church. I know how you feel... alone and out of place.. I felt that too, as a member. That is something no one can help with. My feelings were because of my ex was not a member ... I HATED it, I hated beeing a woman without a man in the church, not singel, not devorced... but someone who really has no place in teh Church, with a man who was not a member.... and quess what my DH got himself in a mess and there I was again in a situation I hated most... and alone. But things change. We had a man in our ward, he attended with his wife untill their kids went to mission, then he become a member... it was a BIG party! (not literally) We were so happy for him. It is ok to attend even though you are not a member!

Hi HG and welcome! I hope you find the answers you are looking for here on this forum. But be careful many have started with trying to understand even destroy mormonisme and ended up as really good and faithful members.

Hi and welcome. Only thing I know is that when we one day arise from death our bodies will be whole! See you around.

Well come! I once drove through Ohio! See you around!