WillowTheWhisp

I think David Wilkerson bases 'his' prophecies on hsi study of scripture though - he doesn't claim them as personal revelations does he?

What an awful experience that must have been for the members of the congregation.

I know I'm alive. I know I breathe air. I can't explain how I know these things I just know that I know them. I know the church is true and the only way that I can explain that I know it is because I know Joseph Smith told the truth about his experiences. I can't explain how I know that any more than I can explain how I know I'm alive and breathing. To most members on here I am just a name on a webpage, however to some I am a real person because they have met me. Similarly my relationship with God is real because it'sa personal thing. I know the Holy Ghost helps be to discern truth form error. I don't know how but I just know that when I read or hear something I know if it's the truth or not.

I think sometimes people come to dispute Mormon beliefs in the hope of 'rescuing' us fom what they believe to be false doctrine.

and that was way before David O. McKay

To answer your question: Quote: Originally Posted by TRomans Profile My name is Tyler I am 17 and I am proud to be Canadian. In which case it is important to respect your parents but show patience to your father and pray that he will realise how serious you are about this. I would not recommend defying him if he actually objects.

Congratulations.

How old are you? I ask because it has a bearing on my answer. Are you young enough that your parents need to give permission? Do you live in your parents' home? If so then I think it is importnt to respect your Father's views and perhaps not get baptised yet but show him that you are not going to change your mind. If he can see that you are still committed to the Church even if you can't get baptised then he may change his mind.

Here in the UK we are not allowed to own weapons.

Truth is something which remains constant no matter what people believe.

In answer to your point #2 the clothes she actually did wear were casual trousers and a sweatshirt top so they could have been something she could have slept in and probably would sleep in if we were camping in chilly weather.

Yep, growing up in the church doesn't mean you don't have a past. Sometimes people who grow up in the church don't have a testimony, they just have a tradition. A convert could be a more faithful Saint.

There isn't a lot of point in speculating about why you need to go back to school right now - you will eventually find out. The thing is to do it and then when you do find out you won't be saying "Oh if only I'd gone back to school I could have done that!"

Well it seems like there's only you and I think so Fiannan. I'm really fighting a losing battle if other LDS parents think it's OK to wear PJs for school in a mixed sex school.

Oh, let me explain. I only phoned the school after because it was only after that I realised there was a problem. My daughter had (wrongly as it turned out) assumed that because in past years this World Book Day event had simply been a normal non-uniform day that when the teacher had said "come in your PJs" that it had been an option, not compulsory. So she chose her 'non-uniform' which had been acceptable at previous non uniform events. Her combats are her 'comfy trousers'. The only other trousers she has are jeans and her school uniform. Why the big difference between a sweatshirt and a t-shirt? A t-shirt and comfy trousers would have been equally unacceptable to the teacher who wanted them all to be dressed as if for bed. Dressing for bed to me does not seem like an appropriate way to dress in public. I really am perplexed at this idea that it's OK to wear bed clothes for a public party. I know some teenage girls go out clubbing in their bra and knickers but personally I'm not OK with that either. Just because it's done by 99.9% of the population doesn't make it OK for my daughter to do, IMO they look like prostitutes. No, I have no objection to them 'slobbing around' on a casual day which is meant to be exactly that, a day off from normal school activity. My objection is that PJs are for bed and not for outdoor wear in our family. Yes, they are too revealing, they provoke sexual interest by boys. She did wear caual slobbing around clothing but that was not good enough for the teacher.

Could you PM a moderator with your question maybe that would get you an answer?

My daughter attends a school here in the UK where, like most schools they wear a uniform. My daughter is 14. Yesterday was 'World Book Day' and instead of having lessons they could read all day in the school library. For this privilege they had to pay £3.00. They were also required to wear their pyjamas. It is this last point which I'm having trouble with. My daughter wears her pyjamas in bed for sleeping. I do not consider it appropriate for her to wear them in school. She wore her uniform to school and then changed into a sweatshirt top and a pair of combat pants to join the class in the library to read her books. She was told she was dressed inappropriately and that she could change back into uniform and go and do normal lessons. I am disgusted that dressing decently is classed as inappropriate and wearing pyjamas (some of which according to my daughter were very skimpy and provocative) is regarded as more acceptable for teenage girls in a mixed gender school. When my daughter came home last night she was upset because the teacher had told her off for not wearing pyjamas. When I rang the school this morning and spoke to the teacher she said I was the only one who had objected and ased if I don't 'slob around the house' reading before I get dressed. As a matter of fact I don't (I was up at 5am, showered and dressed and put some washing on before I sat down to read) but even if I did there is a difference between my own home and a public place. I wouldn't go to the town library in my nightie! Am I being unreasonable? I was already disappointed in the school when the headmaster had announced that the new the girls were all 'doing it' and should all have a chlamydia test.

My daughter was first introduced to these books by a friend in France who had read them all. Then she took me to see the film. I wasnt particularly impressed. My daughters have since bought all 4 books and my youngest (14) hasn't had her nose out of them since buying them. She is totally captivated. OH saw the film and actually enjoyed it which totally amazed me.

In our Ward the active member do not have Home Teachers or Visiting Teachers. We only visit less active sisters.This means I have no priesthood contact as we have no priesthood in our home. If my children or I need a blessing we really do not have anyone to contact which leaves me feeling lost an out on a limb too. Then I had a problem with the sister I have been newly teamed with as a VT. We visited in January but when I tried to arrange with her to go out in February she said she was far too busy- then I learned that she had done visits on her own which again made me feel totally unwanted. There are times when I wonder if I really do belong to this church. My own opinion of visiting teachers who call at inconvenient times when you have specifically asked them not to is that they are thinking more of numbers than of people. Yes it may very well be that they too have a schedule and cannot be available at times when it is OK for them to visit you but that doesn't mean they should be so inconsiderate as to expect you to welcome a visit at a time when you have specifically told them it is inconvenient due to your family circumstances.

McDonalds was totally out of order for not refunding her money.

Yes it is true - but perhaps not for the reason you think. Any man who uses emotional blackmail is not good enough for anyone. Do not allow him to mke you feel guilty.

Round these parts it usually tuna pasta salad. Every event, every 'bring some food' gathering there is ALWAYS tuna pasta salad.

Maybe it should be re-worded "When I was on The Lord's mission...." ? I know someone who always seems to use the well-worn phrase every time he gives a talk or bears his testimony and it does become a little tiresome after a while. There are times when it is relevant and other times when it can be left out and not detract from the spirit of what the speaker is telling. As for "my mission president said.........." I cannot help remembering a certain mission president who preached more of the "doctrine according to President 'X' " than the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this as I haven't yet read the whole thread but something occurred to me - have the people who tell others not to listen to non-LDS Christian music stopped to consider the fact than some of the hymns in our LDS hymnbook were written by non-Mormons?

I think it helps to remember that a prophet is a human being and as fragile and fallible as any of us. As a child I used to have this image of the Old and New Testament prophets as amazingly strong men both physically and spiritually, who could do no wrong and always followed God. That was the sort of thing I'd been taught as a child. Then when I grew older and read the Bible for myself, not just the children's storybook versions, I realised that it was littered with people who were far from perfect. Moses wasn't really Charlton Heston, he was a man who doubted his own ability and struggled to speak. Paul complained of a thorn in his flesh. Peter denied Christ. Jonah didn't want to go to Ninevah. David fell into temptation...................all human. That didn't mean they were not prophets when they obeyed God and acted on his behalf. Their failings didn't lessen any of the righteous things they did. So if a modern day prophet proves to be human he is no different to the prophets of old. However, when a prophet speaks on behalf of Heavenly Father then there is no mistake. What is revealed is right - for the people at the time. There may be things in the past that we do not understand looking back on them but that is because we see them from our persepective and not from a divine perspective. Heavenly Father doesn't need to give us the explanations for why he does things. We just need to believe that he does things which are right for us at the time. When a black friend of mine was asked how he felt about the priesthood having been withheld from his race for a time he replied, "That was because the white man wasn't ready for us."