bytor2112 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 If you could see beyond the veil for a brief moment or remember something from the pre-existence or turn on the tv and watch one program about your pre-existence....what would you want it to be...what would you want to know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tomk Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 What an interesting question. The word that comes to mind is memory. I want to remember what I was like. I want to remember why my wife and children and I decided to be a family. We must have been close to each other to agree to come down here and face the challenges we have faced together! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bytor2112 Posted September 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Many things come to mind......I would want to know my Father..to understand his love for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still_Small_Voice Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 I am sure much of the reason we have the veil is so we wouldn't be constantly homesick to go back to where we came from. This life is suffering compared to what we had in the pre-mortal life. Nevertheless, we are to learn to be happy and have joy in this life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmy- Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 We'll maintain our physical image in the after-life. I'm mainly curious.. does the spirit shape the body? Or does the body shape the spirit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bytor2112 Posted September 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 We'll maintain our physical image in the after-life. I'm mainly curious.. does the spirit shape the body? Or does the body shape the spirit.Will having a six pack matter...or love handles...or a big turkey neck...crooked nose....skin blemishes. I hope that our bodies are just crude shapes compared to our actual Spirit bodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierGuy Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 I would want to see how I reacted when I was told and shown by Father all the problems I would face on this Earth. I hope I jumped up and down and thanked him for allowing me to come to this Earth and face these trials and tribulations that make me feel sad, bad, and a loser in life. I pray I can gain in this life all of those happy feelings I had in the pre-life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palerider Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Just a peek into the pre existence to see what it was like....thats it nothing else just a peek....:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenderFan Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 I'd like to see how I chose to fight on the Saviour's side and how excited I was to get the opportunity to come here. I suspect that would be enough to get me to endure to the end... Of course, that is also probably the reason I will never have the chance to see...FF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemidakota Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 If you could see beyond the veil for a brief moment or remember something from the pre-existence or turn on the tv and watch one program about your pre-existence....what would you want it to be...what would you want to know?Remember my friend, all things are possible in this mortal life. This is one of them. Spending a few minutes across the veil, would fill volumes if we had the language to describe it. Yet, I would be the first to say, do not ask for it unless you are willing to live it and perhaps, to die for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiJolly Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 I would like to know who my guardians and guides are for this life. Meet w/ them consciously, and be able to remember the experience. HiJolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookmeister Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Actually, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to see past the veil. I think I would be devastated by knowing the kind of person I could have been, and the person I actually am. Seeing such wonders would probably drive me mad because I wouldn't be able to make them happen in my mortal life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lchri134 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 I would love to see the kind of person i was, and my thoughts about coming down to earth, i would love to see what i said when i was told the types of trials i would go through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 If you could see beyond the veil for a brief moment or remember something from the pre-existence or turn on the tv and watch one program about your pre-existence....what would you want it to be...what would you want to know? I would like to know if all men, including those spirits that have not yet recieved a physical body; fell from the Father's presents upon the event known as the "fall of Adam". And that these spirits before coming to earth; enhabited a heaven where Jesus was and is King and G-d. If we all have been seperated from our Father since the fall and that even in the pre-existance before coming to earth Jesus was our only G-d and Mediator with the Father until that day of Judgement when those that have been Celestialized will return to their former place.The Traveler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elphaba Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Will having a six pack matter...or love handles...or a big turkey neck...crooked nose....skin blemishes. I hope that our bodies are just crude shapes compared to our actual Spirit bodies.I wonder these same things Bytor.Seriously, if it is true that I will be resurrected, do I have a choice about what my body will look like? I seriously have hated my body all of my life, even when I was a young child. So can I have someone else's instead? Elphaba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiJolly Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Actually, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to see past the veil. I think I would be devastated by knowing the kind of person I could have been, and the person I actually am. Seeing such wonders would probably drive me mad because I wouldn't be able to make them happen in my mortal life.Knowledge without understanding can be very painful. HiJolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbaldguy Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 I would be interested in seeing if my pre-existence friends are all now with me in mortality, maybe there are many more to come. It would be also of great interest to see if my weaknesses I am now facing were part of some sort of agreement or test I wanted to take, no doubt that is the case but why did I choose these situations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bytor2112 Posted September 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 I wonder these same things Bytor.Seriously, if it is true that I will be resurrected, do I have a choice about what my body will look like? I seriously have hated my body all of my life, even when I was a young child. So can I have someone else's instead? ElphabaI mean shouldn't every sister be as shapely as say...Jessica Beil..or whomever..not that I have noticed these superficial details:) or every guy sporting a six pack like me :) or maybe Brad Pitt? Or will these hormonal driven thoughts be purged someway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palerider Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 I wonder these same things Bytor.Seriously, if it is true that I will be resurrected, do I have a choice about what my body will look like? I seriously have hated my body all of my life, even when I was a young child. So can I have someone else's instead? Elphaba did you hear the latest???....you are going to be resurrected and you will be a republican......:lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bytor2112 Posted September 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 did you hear the latest???....you are going to be resurrected and you will be a republican......:lol::lol:And find that the Democrats..er, I mean the devil has been chained for a thousand years:lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elphaba Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 did you hear the latest???....you are going to be resurrected and you will be a republican......:lol::lol: Dang! That must mean I'm going to hell.:p:pElphie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palerider Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 dang! That Must Mean I'm Going To Hell.:p:pElphie lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbaldguy Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 I was told our resurrected bodies will be what we would be like in our so-called "prime" meaning I should have a full head of hair......"not so much as a hair of their heads be lost" (Alma 11:44). However, I prefer the bald look, personally, I wonder if the Lord will allow me to have that in the Resurrection.:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver_bowtie Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 I'm going to make my first post for this board in this thread, due to the fact that one of my favorite talks given seems to fit in here very nice.It was a talk given by Elder H. Wallace Goddard. It is called 'A Heavenly One-on-One', and describes in detail his thoughts of the conversation we had with our Heavenly Father before we came here to earth.In my mind I picture a time some ages ago when Father called you and me--each of us individually--to an interview, a Father’s Interview. He looked on us with love and shared His appreciation for us: “I love you, Dear One.” Then He told us: “You are ready to go to earth.” We tensed at the prospect of leaving Him. He continued: “I can customize your earth experience to prepare you for the place you want in Eternity. So the key question is, where do you want to spend Eternity?”Each of us trembled. Dared we say? Dared we hope? He prodded: “Go ahead. Tell me. Please.” We blurted: “Oh Father! I want to be with you! I want to be a part of your work! I want to spend Eternity with Jehovah and all the noble and great ones.” Then we hung our heads in shame. How dare we hope for such a thing? How could we be so presumptuous?But He gently lifted our chins. I imagine a tear coursing down His face. “And that is where I want you. I want you back with Me and all my most cherished Ones.” He pulled us close and filled our spirits with His goodness. We leaned into His love and felt more at home than we ever had.After what seemed like an eternity, He leaned back and sighed. “The education for exaltation is very rigorous and demanding. . ..” We interrupted: “Oh! I’d do anything to be with You again.” He smiled but had a concerned look in His eyes. “Let me show you something.” He opened our minds to see every hour, every minute, every second, every hiccough of our personal mortal experience. After all, He is not a person to sneak big surprises into the small print of our mortal contracts. In my opinion, He showed us every single thing we would experience in our mortal education from the pains of birth to the anxieties of death and every struggle in between. We were sobered.He asked, “Would you bear all of that to return Home?”“Gladly. But . . .” We hesitated. “Can I do it? Am I strong enough? Am I good enough? Do I have a chance of making it?” Father glowed. “No. No, you can’t make it. You would get hopelessly lost on your own. You will often be confused and uncertain. You will become hopelessly forlorn and dispirited. But, if you’re willing to go, I’ll provide my two Extraordinary Helpers. I will provide you my Third-in-command, the Holy Spirit, who will teach you, comfort you, and cleanse you. And I will provide my Second-in-command, my dearly Beloved Son, who will give you the teachings you need. And He will pay the price of all your debts so that you can come Home clean and perfect.”At this point our eyes were big with disbelief and tears coursed down our cheeks. We slipped from His arms to our knees “You would do all that for me?”“Gladly.”“And all the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy”. Never in all of eternity had there been such Good News! Right Then and There we committed to make the perilous journey. We signed the contract. We made a covenant.But, somewhere between our heavenly Home Above to bedeviled and beleaguered earth beneath, we suffered from a veil that hid that sacred pre-trip moment from our view. So we started this journey dazed, forgetful, and vulnerable. The newborn baby cries and flails his limbs. This cold and breezy place is clearly not our Home. The bad news is that things will get worse before they get better. Our mortal pathways are strewn with thorn and thistles. As we journey through mortality in this harsh world, we continue to be vulnerable to brutal attacks.I feel that God’s whole purpose, His goal, His destiny, is to enable each of us to enjoy all His blessings. He has provided a perfect plan to accomplish His purpose. We understood and accepted this plan before we came to the earth. There is not one of us here today who He has not blessed, even if we take the selfish act of only counting our birth.There is a veil between our world of mortality and God’s world of the eternities. It can become very thin at times, but for most of us the veil remains; for he has placed it there to help us learn how we must live, what we must become, to live with him some day. To be able to return to the arms of our Heavenly Father and say, “Yes! Now I remember!”.As mentioned above, the veil will seem to become thin at times, but it will not be truly parted until we return home with honor. And what a truly magnificent day that will be. Yes, I reckon the tears will again stream down our cheeks. Does Heaven have tissues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbaldguy Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 That was amazing, great first post=) Gives us all hope when we are being buffeted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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