momof5 Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 My husband and I have three sons and I am now pregnant with twins. We did IVF due to trauma to my husband after the 3 boys were born. My RE suspected that I would produce around 12 eggs and instead I produced 47! I actually set a record...anyhow, of those 47, 27 fertilized. We did a day 5 embryo transfer and of those 27 eggs 13 made it to a day 5 blastocyst. We implanted 2 an I am pregnant with two. Our problem is that we have 11 grade "A" blasts that we probably won't use. Our RE told us that our options are to either donate them to someone, destroy them, or donate them to medical research. We aren't sure of what to do. My husband and I are extremely active in the church and we are trying to figure out what is best. If we did donate them we would only want to give them to an active sealed couple in the church. Any thoughts? There is no way we can have 11 more babies!!!! Quote
MarginOfError Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 If I were in the situation, I'd be willing to donate them. I wouldn't even have the restriction of an active sealed couple. Congratulations on the success of your procedure. I've been dabbling in IVF research a bit recently as your numbers are very good. I hope all goes well with your pregnancy. Quote
Wingnut Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 I'd also probably be willing to donate. If you're not comfortable with that (or heck, even if you are), I would talk with your Bishop about it. Quote
Kirajo Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 Donate Donate Donate!!! Poor little things just want a body to grow and learn whether they're in the church or not! :) Quote
kona0197 Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 I would not donate. With me this is along the lines of abortion and should not be done at all. Besides even if you donate your genes will end up in that child not the person you donated them to. Quote
Lbybug Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 I would not donate. With me this is along the lines of abortion and should not be done at all. Besides even if you donate your genes will end up in that child not the person you donated them to. how do you consider donating like abortion? the emryos are already there. i can agree with destroying them being along those lines, but if they're already created? DONATE! Quote
Moksha Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 With me this is along the lines of abortion and should not be done at all. I would think of it as the opposite of abortion. I would also go with MOE's no restriction idea. Quote
Truegrits Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 I would donate, also. What a wonderful treasure to give. Quote
Truegrits Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 kona:I would not donate. With me this is along the lines of abortion and should not be done at all. I would honestly like to understand your thought process that led to that opinion. What is being aborted/killed? Quote
SMG Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 I am also adding my voice to the "donate them!" choir! You and your hubby would be blessing the lives of a childless couple as well as the unborn spirit! Quote
checkerboy Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 For those of you that said "No Restrictions" consider this. If the child goes to a family that has less then ideal values that child then will be at a much greater disadvantage in regards to reaching the Celestial Kingdom then if that child was killed before reaching the age of accountability. Why not specify that you want an LDS family to raise the children? Quote
MarginOfError Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 For those of you that said "No Restrictions" consider this. If the child goes to a family that has less then ideal values that child then will be at a much greater disadvantage in regards to reaching the Celestial Kingdom then if that child was killed before reaching the age of accountability. Why not specify that you want an LDS family to raise the children? I wouldn't worry about it because the Lord has an uncanny way of recognizing personal circumstances. I wouldn't worry because I don't believe any of the fertilized eggs getting tossed out are going to the Celestial Kingdom anyway. I wouldn't worry because anyone that can afford IVF and wants a child that badly is going to get one from somewhere, and I'm certain that the donor would hold not accountability for whatever ideals the receiving family instilled in the resultant child. Quote
Wingnut Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 I wouldn't worry about it because the Lord has an uncanny way of recognizing personal circumstances.As well, we have the privilege of knowing that God is both merciful and just and has provided a way for all His children to hear the Gospel, whether in this life or the next. Quote
kona0197 Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 The same line as abortion IN REGARDS that it should not be done. Your genes should stay in your own bloodline. Quote
MarginOfError Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 The same line as abortion IN REGARDS that it should not be done. Your genes should stay in your own bloodline.prude I'm really kidding. This is a perfectly valid and acceptable opinion. Quote
Kirajo Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 Specify if you want, but even if the child is born with a less priveliged life that leads him/her astray, that's what we're here for. We're here to do the Lords work and find these people and teach them. But anyways I still say donate. :) haha Quote
SMG Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 The same line as abortion IN REGARDS that it should not be done. Your genes should stay in your own bloodline.Eh, what about adoption? I'd just view the donation as a form of adoption, in my own strange little view of the world. But that's just my own opinion and I'm hoping no one takes offense to it. Adoptions are not uncommon in my family history, so I'm not of the opinion that "bloodline = your permanent family." "Blood" may be "thicker than water" but I think the ties made by one's heart and spirit are even stronger. :) Quote
Truegrits Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 kona:The same line as abortion IN REGARDS that it should not be done. Your genes should stay in your own bloodline. Are you saying that you are against 'adoption' just in this instance, or are you against adoption under any circumstances? Quote
mightynancy Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 I think adoption is a wonderful thing. My brother is no less my brother because we aren't of the same "bloodline". He's my brother because we grew up together, we love each other, we're sealed to the same parents. I think embryo donation is making the best of a sticky situation. I would view the destruction of embryos as being rather like abortion...but IMO it's hard to say when the spirit enters the body. That's not a debate I'm willing to enter here. :) In your shoes, I'd donate the embryos to other couples. :) Quote
momof5 Posted September 23, 2008 Author Report Posted September 23, 2008 I will not destroy them. I guess we're going towards donation. I just don't know how to specify that I want them in an LDS family. I do prefer them to go to a sealed couple. I want them to be with whoever they go to forever and I want them to know about Heavenly Father and at least have a chance of growing up in the church. I know that you can't make a child have a testimony, but I grew up in the church and I am so grateful that I did. It prepared me for all of the blessings that have come our way. They are our children, and I want what I had for ALL of my children. Even the little ones that are frozen. I wish there was a website of LDS couples looking for donors!!! Quote
mightynancy Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 Keep in mind that having your embryos go to a sealed couple is no guarantee of a swell life. Best of luck to you! Quote
kona0197 Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 Adoption has no meaning in my line of reckoning. If you have a child it should be off your own bloodline and from your own egg. I find it disturbing that people want a baby from other people's genes. Quote
mightynancy Posted September 24, 2008 Report Posted September 24, 2008 (edited) ... Edited September 24, 2008 by mightynancy Quote
SMG Posted September 24, 2008 Report Posted September 24, 2008 Adoption has no meaning in my line of reckoning. If you have a child it should be off your own bloodline and from your own egg. I find it disturbing that people want a baby from other people's genes.What if the couple in question are infertile? Any child, no matter if adopted after birth, or as the result of an embryo donation, won't be of their bloodlines, but they WILL be that couple's child in the eyes of law. I think it's fair to say that couples who go thru IVF are people who really, truly desire to be parents. Being a parent of a child is not strictly defined as being one of the people who gave the egg or spermatozoa that resulted in the child coming into being. Quote
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