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Guest ceeboo
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You could, but you would learn more staying the 2nd hour and going to the Gospel Principles class. It teaches the basics of what we believe, usually to new members and those looking into possibly joining (or just wanting more info about us). Our classes are full participation rather than being preached to, I think you would like it from what I've read of your posts here.

I believe (and correct me if I am wrong) you said somewhere you are Catholic. Having been to many many Masses (my wife was RCC when we married), Church for us is a bit different, Communion (what we call the Sacrament) is passed we don't file up to get it. We beleive the Sacrament is symbolic and do not believe in transubstantion, we use bread

Hi mnn,

Thanks for that very generous offering :)

Yes, I am Catholic. I have been to many other " Christain " services over the years ( also went to a Jewish service, REAL NEAT IMHO, due to the fact that in " my eyes" we Catholics are simply a continuation of the Jewish Faith. ) I do this to make an effort to learn more of many of my Brothers and Sisters, I personaly have found it MORE than interesting and indeed quite humbling.:)

Having rambled enough, that is the reason I would like to experience an LDS service.

Thanks for the advice about the " Gospel Principles " class. Is it NOT considered disrespectfull to go to these " break off classes " if you are not LDS. I certainly would not want to be that. Is the " 2nd hour " for men only ( My gorgious bride " sometimes " goes with me on these visits to other Faiths and I am not sure she would be comfy if I left here solo :lol::lol:

Thanks and God bless,

Carl

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Just so you know ceeboo...no lightning is going to strike if you were to choose not to attend one of the other hours. As those have said...just a recommendation. But I do understand leaving your bride would make both of you feel uncomfortable. I wish you lived close to me. I would love to accompany you...and if you were a good boy..I'd even have a gingerbread man cookie for you for a snack.

Guest ceeboo
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Hey Ceeboo,

If you go some Sunday I ( and I'm sure as well as others) would like to know what you think. I for one would want your honesty.:)

Personally -- at first I thought it was a little strange because it was not what I was used to. I was used to a preacher preaching hellfire and brimstone,LOL! The music is a little different, but still beautiful hymns.:)

Hi candyprpl,

I don't think I would find it " strange " due to the many others I have visited.

I have also been to " on fire for jesus " places and God bless them for that :)

I have always thought ( with very few exceptions ) that ANY place that gathers together in the name of our Savior, is truly a LOVING and UPLIFTING place where EACH of us might get just a little closer to God. Not to mention the fact that I believe we are ALL broken people and could ALL use some human support and encouragement with our troubles and journeys along the way.:)

I will indeed be honest with you ( maybe one of my biggest flaws :) ) as to my visit.

God bless,

Carl

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You are able to take your wife to Sunday School class. There are no Men Sunday School classes and Women Sunday School classes. That is only during the Priesthood and Relief Society hour which usually is the last hour.

Ben Raines

Guest ceeboo
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But I do understand leaving your bride would make both of you feel uncomfortable.

The only reason I would be uncomfortable is that I wouldn't know if checkerboy would be at the Church I was visiting and you know how he gets around woman :):)

As for the " lightning bolt ", not at all, I was just wanting to make sure it was not considered rude or insulting.:) ( you know when people start walking out of my Sunday service before the Priest leaves, I consider it rude )

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On Woodward and on the same lot is both a chapel and the Detroit Temple, the chapel is the building on the south side of the lot. There is family wards and a single ward (18-30) that meet in the bulding. You may want to check out the building locator at LDS.org for times.

Guest ceeboo
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On Woodward and on the same lot is both a chapel and the Detroit Temple, the chapel is the building on the south side of the lot. There is family wards and a single ward (18-30) that meet in the bulding. You may want to check out the building locator at LDS.org for times.

Hi kathysmike,

Thanks for that, Yes that is the one I am talking about ( on woodward ) so there is a Church right next to the temple.:)

Thanks,

God bless,

Carl

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The only reason I would be uncomfortable is that I wouldn't know if checkerboy would be at the Church I was visiting and you know how he gets around woman :):)

As for the " lightning bolt ", not at all, I was just wanting to make sure it was not considered rude or insulting.:) ( you know when people start walking out of my Sunday service before the Priest leaves, I consider it rude )

I understand your thoughts. Though I have only been to a couple of Catholic services for funerals..I have heard that it is considered rude to leave before the Priest leaves. So I do understand your question more fully now.

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Thanks for the advice about the " Gospel Principles " class. Is it NOT considered disrespectfull to go to these " break off classes " if you are not LDS. I certainly would not want to be that. Is the " 2nd hour " for men only ( My gorgious bride " sometimes " goes with me on these visits to other Faiths and I am not sure she would be comfy if I left here solo :lol:

You can leave anytime you want, we don't lock the doors, people come and go even during classes sometimes.

No, Sunday School (2nd hour, Gospel Principles) is not males only. That would be 3rd hour when the men go to Priesthood and women to Relief Soceity.

Edited by mnn727
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In our ward we start at 11.30 am and begin with primary/Reliefsociety/Preasthood then follows Sundayschools/Primary and after those teh meeting.... when you have a speach you kind of wait and wait and wait..... we have 1 youth first then 2 adults then the last speaker. We have visitors any time! My friend has been attending a couple of times and she can feel the good spirit there....:)

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Yeah, visiting another faith tradition is the best way to learn about it. For instance, a Mormon attending Mass, could first light a candle, dip their finger in the holy water basin and make the sign of the Angel Moroni, stand and kneel when appropriate, then go up front for the communion, but cross their arms when it came time to take the host and wine.

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Yeah, visiting another faith tradition is the best way to learn about it. For instance, a Mormon attending Mass, could first light a candle, dip their finger in the holy water basin and make the sign of the Angel Moroni, stand and kneel when appropriate, then go up front for the communion, but cross their arms when it came time to take the host and wine.

sign of the Angel Moroni? whats that ive never heard of it before
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Yeah, visiting another faith tradition is the best way to learn about it. For instance, a Mormon attending Mass, could first light a candle, dip their finger in the holy water basin and make the sign of the Angel Moroni, stand and kneel when appropriate, then go up front for the communion, but cross their arms when it came time to take the host and wine.

Wouldn't that be somewhat of a mockery to the Catholic services?

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I was once in an otrhodox service and we all of us lutherans then tok the ... bread and wine too.... it was very popular at the time to visit other churches and even take the sacrament.

Sighn of Angel moroni... hahahha... I think better not.

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That is to accommodate those who can't get up early enough to make it to a 9 AM meeting. Lets make it easier for them to attend. :(

Ben Raines

ROFL.... on top of that we have the 1:00 pm to 4:00 pm block. LOL but only until January

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yes...there are usually churches everywhere. lol! someone can help you look up the closest meeting house with the times. I think it's at LDS.org, but I'm not 100% on that. :)

and talk about torture, you guys.. .my block starts at two. in the afternoon! how you like them apples?!

I love apples. . .LOL but I'd have a tough time if we started at 2pm

good luck

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My brother was in a ward that at one time they started at 4 in the afternoon and got done at 7 pm. There was something like 5 wards in his building.

Guest ceeboo
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Yeah, visiting another faith tradition is the best way to learn about it. For instance, a Mormon attending Mass, could first light a candle, dip their finger in the holy water basin and make the sign of the Angel Moroni, stand and kneel when appropriate, then go up front for the communion, but cross their arms when it came time to take the host and wine.

Hi Moksha,

Thanks a bunch for your " example for ceeboo "

I appreciate your kind and thoughtfull offering to me.:)

Thanks again :)

God bless,

Carl

Guest ceeboo
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So if you leave an LDS service early, does that mean you will have Mormon guilt or Catholic guilt?

LOL :lol:

Hmmmmm, not sure, I think I would have ceeboo guilt ( was that an option :confused:)

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Thak you for such great information, This beats just looking at a link on the same subject. Thank You.

-Carol

Ceeboo,

We have two types of buildings. Chapels, where regular Sunday services are held and temples, where devout members attend to marry and do work for those who have died and need their ordinances done for them.

Chapels are where regular Sunday services are held. There are three meetings that we attend on Sunday. The time at church on Sunday is a block of three hours. Most ward meetings, in chapels, being with the Sacrament meeting. This is a meeting of about 1 hour and ten minutes. Members are asked to come in their "Sunday best". For some that is a suit for men and a dress for women or skirt and blouse. For some it is a pair of jeans or khakis and a dress shirt or polo shirt.

The meeting opens with a member of the Bishopric, the Bishop or one of his counselors, welcoming all in attendance, announcements are made of upcoming events and activities, a hymn is sung by the congregation and an invocation is given by someone form the congregation, who has been asked prior to the start of the meeting. After the invocation any ward business is taken care of, new callings or positions in church announced and sustained, from sunday school teacher to teacher of small children, etc. Another song is sung in preparation to partake of the sacrament, during this song the older young men, aaronic priesthood holders, Priests, break the bread of the sacrament. After the song the bread is blessed and passed to the congregation, then the water is blessed and passed too. This is for all repentant souls to partake of. Some will tell you only members should but it is all who are of a repentant attitude, in my opinion.

After the sacrament is passed then usually one of the youth from the ward has been asked some weeks in advance to give a talk on a certain subject. This is someone who is between 12-18. The talk usually lasts from 3-5 minutes. Then an adult will speak on the same subject or related subject matter. After the second talk a congregational hymn is sung with all standing, let the blood flow to your feet. Then the concluding speaker. After the concluding speaker a closing hymn and then the benediction to close the meeting.

After that everyone files out to their Sunday School classes. Sunday School for adults is divided in to two classes. Gospel Principals for those just baptized or those learning about the church. Gospel Doctrine for those who have been members for about a year or more. Each year there is a study guide to discuss Christ's teachings. This year it is the Book of Mormon. Another year is Doctrine and Covenants and church history, another is Old Testament and another New Testament. Then in the fifth year it starts over.

In the third hour the men go to Priesthood class and the women go to Relief Society. It is there we learn more about our roles as men and women of Christ and how to best fullfil those roles.

On the first Sunday of the month we have a testimony meeting. This is a little different than the first meeting I outlined. Instead of talks the members are encouraged to come forward and share their testimonies of Jesus Christ and their relatinship with him. It doesn't always happen that way but that is what they are encouraged to do.

Ben Raines

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Wouldn't that be somewhat of a mockery to the Catholic services?

Well, lighting a candle and saying a prayer for somebody who is sick, could only bring good karma into the world. The part of making the sign of the Angel Moroni was merely a joke - I don't know if it even exists. As to proceeding up front to cross your arms to signal not taking the host and wine, but receiving a blessing by the Priest instead is protocol, since after all, you are not Catholic. Of course, you could always remain seated in the pew, but you would miss part of the participatory experience. Just like the Mormon Sacrament, the observer would be expected to pass the tray, but not partake.

Learning about other religions and cultures helps expand our own horizons and capacity to be a better human being.

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I agree that learning about other cultures and faith traditions help expand our horizon.

Perhaps-we will see there is more we have in common than what seperates us as people on a journey of faith and of life.

-Carol

Well, lighting a candle and saying a prayer for somebody who is sick, could only bring good karma into the world. The part of making the sign of the Angel Moroni was merely a joke - I don't know if it even exists. As to proceeding up front to cross your arms to signal not taking the host and wine, but receiving a blessing by the Priest instead is protocol, since after all, you are not Catholic. Of course, you could always remain seated in the pew, but you would miss part of the participatory experience. Just like the Mormon Sacrament, the observer would be expected to pass the tray, but not partake.

Learning about other religions and cultures helps expand our own horizons and capacity to be a better human being.

Guest ceeboo
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Thak you for such great information, This beats just looking at a link on the same subject. Thank You.

-Carol

Hello abqfriend,

Although I would certainly agree that Ben's post ( Elphaba like :) ) was very informative and indeed greatly appreciated, I must be honest and tell you I am a little jealous. You thanked him ( Ben ), well what about me ( ceeboo ) you know I started this thread !!!

Where is my special attention ?? ceeboo needs a little love too !!!

I will be waiting for the forth coming love and attention that I seek :):)

God bless,

Carl

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