When can we say that we’ve had enough?

[prospectmom]

IRS controls elections Pam ??????????

[pam]

Hmmm so I've got another year before I'm not a youngster, my question is will I then be allowed to sit and pontificate with a great many who's life experiences far outweighs mine? Hmmm I must go and ponder this, I have much life experience to get in this next year after all this not being a youngster buisness is a very serious thing, I'll have to be ready to be able to sit and pontificate (hehehe I have a new favorite word ) I'll have responsiblities, this is very serious buisness yes very serious.

That was just too darn cute. I loved it!! :)

[pam]

IRS controls elections Pam ??????????

No..but if an organization appears to be campaigning or endorsing a particular candidate..even if it is only by someone posting on their website..they could lose their tax exempt status as a not for profit organization.

As a non-profit organization, 501©3, we are governed by legal constraints relative to writing, blogging, or otherwise endorsing any candidate running for political office. The law states, in effect, that no one acting on behalf of the nonprofit can intervene directly or indirectly in the election process by endorsing a political candidate. Any post that speaks favorably about one candidate, even in a religious context, can be construed as indirect intervention in the election process. While journalists are presently exempt from this provision, bloggers and forum-members are not.

[Dravin]

IRS controls elections Pam ??????????

I think its an issue of tax exempt status, if you lost it you'd have to deal with the IRS as now they'd want their money.

[prospectmom]

WOW.... I learn something new every day.... ok the how about all those Preachy Preachers who advice their members from the pulput how to vote???? I have read about that...... How can they get away with that?????????

[Dravin]

WOW.... I learn something new every day.... ok the how about all those Preachy Preachers who advice their members from the pulput how to vote???? I have read about that...... How can they get away with that?????????

Are we talking about candidates or issues? For instance a Preacher could get up and say, "Don't support evil abortionists!" and be effectively advising his congregation on which candidate to vote for (if it was only two candidates and one was pro-choice and the other pro-life) but is different than if he said, "Vote for Governor McFantastic!".

[pam]

Good question. Possibly ONE of the reasons why our leaders do not tell us who we should vote for.

[pam]

What I do tire of are youngsters with little more than a college degree, sitting on here pontificating to a great many, who's life experiences far outweighs theirs.

While I am for sure not one of these "youngsters" I do however have to say that I love reading their posts. Many provide such a nice new approach and different level of understanding that someone of my advanced years may not have thought of.

[prospectmom]

I love how our leaders deal with issues ........ We are to pray , ponder and make a decision that is right for us..... givin what we know and believe..... We are not constrained to any party or to Vote uniformally with the Church...... Follows the Artical of Faith #? exactly......

[Elphaba]

Two things here, I find your smug arrogance at anything posted that doesn't agree with your POV, and goose step's right a long with your limited life experience to be laughable.

I really hope MOE reads this, as it is an excellent example of one of his insipid posts full of the very arrogance and smugness you accuse him of. Thank goodness you have vast amounts of life experiences that enable you to write such a post, because without it, MOE would never understand what an immature post looks like. MOE, are you listening?

I, myself, have decades of life experience, so I recognize what MOE, and others, might not: You included the hypocritical hyperbole on purpose to teach MOE a lesson. Only a person with numerous life experiences would know how to sound like an overwrought juvenile without actually being one. Well done.

By the way, do you happen to have a mirror handy?

Elphaba

[Elphaba]

While I am for sure not one of these "youngsters" I do however have to say that I love reading their posts. Many provide such a nice new approach and different level of understanding that someone of my advanced years may not have thought of.

You're talking about me, right?

Elph

[pam]

You're talking about me, right?

Elph

Are you saying you are one of the youngsters or one of the advanced years kind of person?

[Wingnut]

Are you saying you are one of the youngsters or one of the advanced years kind of person?

Ouch!

[pam]

Just wanting a clarification. hahaha

[Elphaba]

Are you saying you are one of the youngsters or one of the advanced years kind of person?

How about: I'm one of the youngsters with vast amounts of life experience. After all, when you get to be my age you come to understand that the older you get, the younger you really are.

Elph

[pam]

It's great because now I can be myself and just be weird and people chalk it up to senility.

[Aesa]

And I thought this was going to be a serious thread asking a question along the lines of "How much longer can we handle this ridiculous monetary-ism before the great majority of society decides they're displaced and call for a new social system based on present-day knowledge?"

Wow, I really got over excited.

[ploomf]

It's great because now I can be myself and just be weird and people chalk it up to senility.

I'm jealous. I'm myself all the time and I'm weird but people just chalk it up to just plain weirdness.

[Elphaba]

It's great because now I can be myself and just be weird and people chalk it up to senility.

Not me. I know you've always been weird, as evidenced by your acrobatics where you did a back flip over the bathroom stall in the ladies room at Church, in front of the bishop's wife, when you were just a youngster. As I recall, you hit your landing.

Once weird, always weird. I know about these things.

Elph

[FunkyTown]

Are we talking about candidates or issues? For instance a Preacher could get up and say, "Don't support evil abortionists!" and be effectively advising his congregation on which candidate to vote for (if it was only two candidates and one was pro-choice and the other pro-life) but is different than if he said, "Vote for Governor McFantastic!".

Everyone should vote for Governor McFantastic.

He's pro-things that are good and anti-things that aren't good! It's basically his platform.

[Mahone]

Tread lightly guys, and remember site rule #3.

Rule #3: Never be unreachable

Oh wait... that is one of Gibbs' rules from NCIS... you meant forum rules. Sorry

[Wingnut]

And I thought this was going to be a serious thread asking a question along the lines of "How much longer can we handle this ridiculous monetary-ism before the great majority of society decides they're displaced and call for a new social system based on present-day knowledge?"

Wow, I really got over excited.

Well, it was serious at the beginning.

[Mahone]

Well, it was serious at the beginning.

More people laughed at than thanked the OP.. I'm not so sure it was

[MarginOfError]

Two things here, I find your smug arrogance at anything posted that doesn't agree with your POV, and goose step's right a long with your limited life experience to be laughable.

Additionally, this is a chat format. All folks are allowed to chat here, share their views and within the limits of good taste, do it free of snotty little comments like yours and your fellow "I live the September Six, more than President Monson Crowd"

Grow up and get some real world experience, maybe then we wouldn't have to read your posts with an air sickness bag.

Bytor, I appreciate the spirit in which you post this. I want you to know, that in my book you have NOTHING to apologize for.

As Latter Day Saints, we have agency. You have the agency to post, I have the agency to read or not to read, all have the agency to respond.

Since my limited time on the site, I've found many posts and threads to be nothing but festering cesspools. Do I respond to each and every post that chaps me; NO.

What I do tire of are youngsters with little more than a college degree, sitting on here pontificating to a great many, who's life experiences far outweighs theirs.

Of course, those with their degrees but little to no life experience, I would expect them to defend and protect the current occupant in the White House. They have alot in common:

College Degrees but little life experience.

Alas, though the difference is stark: Those on this thread with the degrees but little to no life experience haven't been elected to be the Commander in Chief of the greatest country on the earth.

bytor, I really enjoy about 7 out of 10 of your posts...the three I don't, well oh well.

Keep up the good work, and know like some TV preacher or something like that once said..."Tough times never last...Tough people do":animatedthumbsup:

I assure you, the links all go to different posts (there is one link that repeats as it fell into two categories). I’m just not motivated enough to give each of these links a different name.

Listed below are links to 37 of your 76 posts (48.7%). I’ve put them into categories that might be of interest in determining the kind of posting you engage in. In only one post do you reference any scripture at all, but only to give the reference a person couldn’t find in making their point. In four posts, you state that people should turn to professors, particularly BYU professors, if they want to know more. You make historical claims without verifying your sources, indicating that you think that because you had BYU professors you are now an authoritative source. And in 24 of your 76 posts (30.1%) you belittle other people’s comments and down right bully them.

In the remaining 39 posts, you mostly make one liners or other comments of little contribution to the conversation. There's nothing wrong with dropping one-liners, but clarifying that most of the posts not represented here are one-liners establishes that the postings provided below represent the substantive contribution you have made to the lds.net community.

Places in which you actually reference scripture

http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/22146-modern-day-prophets-2.html#post375656

and this was only to give a reference that someone else couldn’t find. It was accompanied with no commentary.

Places in which you say one should refer to BYU Professors or College Courses you took for better information.

http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/22190-can-someone-please-honest-me-2.html#post375879

http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/22130-second-chance-repentance-2.html#post375354

http://www.lds.net/forums/general-discussion/22025-1857-debate-mormon-problem.html#post374187

http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/22002-did-satans-intention-plan-exist-before-great-council.html#post373943

Does it strike anyone besides me as interesting that the person accusing us youngsters of thinking we’re really something because we have a degree is the same person that refers to professors and drops their names more frequently than she uses scripture?

Places in which you make a claim without offering documentation

http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/22190-can-someone-please-honest-me-5.html#post376094

http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/21924-what-causes-people-extremly-ant-mormon-11.html#post373786

http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/21924-what-causes-people-extremly-ant-mormon-13.html#post373939

Where you failed to properly verify a document

http://www.lds.net/forums/current-events/22294-teachers-letter-obama.html#post376917

Comments where you inaccurately extend your opinion as doctrine

http://www.lds.net/forums/current-events/22014-abortion-doctor-murdered-2.html#post374252

Failing to have a sense of humor

http://www.lds.net/forums/current-events/21982-elder-nelson-robbed-mozambique.html#post373881

Engaging in character slander instead of discussing this issue brought up

http://www.lds.net/forums/current-events/21837-san-francisco-burning.html#post371829

http://www.lds.net/forums/current-events/21837-san-francisco-burning.html#post371836

Comments you have made dripping in the arrogance you accuse me of, or of ridicule to other posters

http://www.lds.net/forums/current-events/22184-thank-you-obama-3.html#post376097

http://www.lds.net/forums/current-events/22184-thank-you-obama-3.html#post376099

http://www.lds.net/forums/current-events/22184-thank-you-obama-3.html#post376101

http://www.lds.net/forums/current-events/22184-thank-you-obama-3.html#post376213

http://www.lds.net/forums/current-events/22184-thank-you-obama-4.html#post376262

http://www.lds.net/forums/current-events/22184-thank-you-obama-4.html#post376380

http://www.lds.net/forums/current-events/22184-thank-you-obama-5.html#post376384

http://www.lds.net/forums/current-events/22184-thank-you-obama-5.html#post376724

http://www.lds.net/forums/current-events/22184-thank-you-obama-6.html#post376865

http://www.lds.net/forums/current-events/22184-thank-you-obama-6.html#post376874

http://www.lds.net/forums/current-events/22184-thank-you-obama-7.html#post376913

http://www.lds.net/forums/current-events/22014-abortion-doctor-murdered.html#post374222

http://www.lds.net/forums/current-events/22014-abortion-doctor-murdered-2.html#post374274

http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/21924-what-causes-people-extremly-ant-mormon-11.html#post373784

http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/21924-what-causes-people-extremly-ant-mormon-12.html#post373819

http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/21924-what-causes-people-extremly-ant-mormon-13.html#post373939

http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/21924-what-causes-people-extremly-ant-mormon-14.html#post374166

http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/21924-what-causes-people-extremly-ant-mormon-15.html#post374220

http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/21924-what-causes-people-extremly-ant-mormon-15.html#post374297

http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/21924-what-causes-people-extremly-ant-mormon-16.html#post374314

http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/21924-what-causes-people-extremly-ant-mormon-16.html#post374329

http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/21924-what-causes-people-extremly-ant-mormon-17.html#post374337

http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/21924-what-causes-people-extremly-ant-mormon-18.html#post374448

http://www.lds.net/forums/lds-gospel-discussion/21924-what-causes-people-extremly-ant-mormon-19.html#post374464

Where you all but identify yourself as a troll

http://www.lds.net/forums/current-events/21837-san-francisco-burning-4.html#post372570

I especially loved the part about wonder bread white mormons…not at all judgmental or arrogant.

[Wingnut]

More people laughed at than thanked the OP.. I'm not so sure it was

Because more people laugh scornfully at a complaint or at the unashamed (and admittedly somewhat humorous) use of statistics than those who maybe actually agree with it doesn't mean that the OP wasn't intended to be serious.