bytor2112 Posted August 26, 2009 Report Posted August 26, 2009 Senator Edward M. Kennedy, who carried aloft the torch of a Massachusetts dynasty and championed a liberal ideology during almost a half century in the Senate, but whose personal and political failings may have prevented him from realizing the ultimate prize of the presidency, died Tuesday night at his home in Hyannis Port. He was 77 and had been battling brain cancer.More here. Quote
talisyn Posted August 26, 2009 Report Posted August 26, 2009 Not a surprise, but sad nonetheless. The Dems lost a political lion last night. Quote
bytor2112 Posted August 26, 2009 Author Report Posted August 26, 2009 and Johnny Walker lost a good friend........ Quote
talisyn Posted August 26, 2009 Report Posted August 26, 2009 Someone once said something about sin and stonethrowing... Quote
bytor2112 Posted August 26, 2009 Author Report Posted August 26, 2009 Someone once said something about sin and stonethrowing... yep...in glass houses...touche'! Quote
Hemidakota Posted August 26, 2009 Report Posted August 26, 2009 I really do fill for this man and where he is now in repaying those moments of mortality accounting. Quote
john doe Posted August 26, 2009 Report Posted August 26, 2009 I wonder if one of the first people he sees is Mary Jo. Quote
farmer Posted August 26, 2009 Report Posted August 26, 2009 Yes, I'm boo hooing about all the boo hooing the media is going to do over this. I heard his last words were "I'll drive". Quote
talisyn Posted August 26, 2009 Report Posted August 26, 2009 Considering he died from a brain tumor I can see that. My great-uncle who had one did a lot of funny things before he died. Quote
Hemidakota Posted August 26, 2009 Report Posted August 26, 2009 It saddens me when I see so much 'hoopla' with today's media, when someone who has no eternal weight of glory is shown and idolized. But when a eternal righteous man or woman dies, the world ignores it. So it will be for them, when they come knocking on the Celestial door... Quote
Moksha Posted August 27, 2009 Report Posted August 27, 2009 and Johnny Walker lost a good friend........ Funny, so did Senator Orin Hatch. Is this mere coincidence?It saddens me when I see so much 'hoopla' with today's media, when someone who has no eternal weight of glory is... Yikes, politics lowering kindness of thought? Who'da guessed... Quote
pam Posted August 27, 2009 Report Posted August 27, 2009 It always saddens me all the negativity that is brought out over someone's death. Quote
Elphaba Posted August 27, 2009 Report Posted August 27, 2009 It saddens me when I see so much 'hoopla' with today's media, when someone who has no eternal weight of glory is shown and idolized. But when a eternal righteous man or woman dies, the world ignores it.How would the media know whether a person has an eternal weight of glory or not?It is silly to chastise the media for doing its job. Of course it's going to cover the deaths of famous people, especially someone like Kennedy who is known all around the world. It doesn't really matter if the person has an eternal weight of glory or not--if s/he is famous, the media is goinng to cover it. For example, when the Church's prophet/president passes away, the national media covers that.On the other hand, tne media is not going to cover the deaths of people no one has ever heard of, regardless of their eternal glory. To expect otherwise is naive.If you want to celebrate the death of such a person, you might look to the Church-run media, whose audience is interested in people's eternal glory. I could even see you offering your insight about how important eternal glory is, and what it means to the person who has passed on. You'd be good at that.Elphaba Quote
Palerider Posted August 27, 2009 Report Posted August 27, 2009 I have alot of Ted Kennedy jokes and over the last several months I did not use them because of his health being poor. Sorry to hear he passed on....I won't use the jokes anymore....not to worry there is always Biden. There are just as many jokes about him....:) Quote
Churchmouse Posted August 27, 2009 Report Posted August 27, 2009 Teddy joins girlfriend I wonder if the spirits of Mary Jo Kopechne and the hundreds of thousands of unborn children he supported killing will shed any tears at his passing. Quote
Hemidakota Posted August 27, 2009 Report Posted August 27, 2009 It always saddens me all the negativity that is brought out over someone's death.It was done even while he was living. There is nothing good with this family or any person who caused more problems for others than to seek to do good without cost and honor from the world. Quote
Churchmouse Posted August 27, 2009 Report Posted August 27, 2009 It always saddens me all the negativity that is brought out over someone's death.What bothers me more is the people that riled against you when you were alive have all these nice things to say about you when you die. That's the height of hypocrisy. Quote
pam Posted August 27, 2009 Report Posted August 27, 2009 Good gosh..I'm not asking for anyone to be hypocritical and name all the good things so anything bad is forgotten..but man..the guy died and died from brain cancer. If you didn't like him then why not just refrain from saying anything? I don't remember learning that any one of us will be his judge for the eternities. Let those without sin cast the first stones. Quote
bytor2112 Posted August 27, 2009 Author Report Posted August 27, 2009 (edited) Good gosh..I'm not asking for anyone to be hypocritical and name all the good things so anything bad is forgotten..but man..the guy died and died from brain cancer. If you didn't like him then why not just refrain from saying anything?I don't remember learning that any one of us will be his judge for the eternities. Let those without sin cast the first stones.Senator Kennedy was a well known lush and womanizer and had a highly publicized accident that likely would have landed most normal folks in prison. But his last name was Kennedy.....That being said, by many accounts he had a warm heart, genuinely cared for the causes he championed and connected well with average Americans and he was also a very gifted politician. I wish his family peace and comfort during there time of loss and I hope he is peacefully reunited with the God that gave him life. Edited August 27, 2009 by bytor2112 Quote
Moksha Posted August 28, 2009 Report Posted August 28, 2009 Teddy joins girlfriendI wonder if the spirits of Mary Jo Kopechne and the hundreds of thousands of unborn children he supported killing will shed any tears at his passing. You know, I bet Reverend Fred Phelps is wondering the same thing. Quote
Churchmouse Posted August 28, 2009 Report Posted August 28, 2009 [quote=pam;411401 Let those without sin cast the first stones.I have:):) Quote
Hemidakota Posted August 28, 2009 Report Posted August 28, 2009 What bothers me more is the people that riled against you when you were alive have all these nice things to say about you when you die. That's the height of hypocrisy.Passing of one soul is only a journey to enter on into the next state. Members who look at this event with sadness are missing a piece of testimony in understanding what awaits this soul; fate of the soul in the next life. I only shed tears when I know the fate of the soul and expectation of handing down judgment, in preventing them in entering into a rest state. Quote
FlaviusHambonius Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 I was able to watch Ted Kennedy's memorial service on T.V. today and enjoyed the comments from the speakers but especially the heartfelt comments from Ted Jr. about his Father. I'm sure that Ted Kennedy would be the first to tell you that he had weaknesses and faults and made many mistakes in his personal life. I'm sure that he would tell you that he had much darkness in his life due to some of those choices he made. But I also think that he would tell you that there's hope in the light apart from the darkness as he surely believed in redemption. He strived to be a good patriarch of his immediate and extended family during times of chaos. He strived to serve his country according to his beliefs. He was blessed with a wife who according to him 'saved' him from many of his weaknesses. It's kind of funny to watch human nature--we have a political commentator by the name of Glen Beck who was a self-proclaimed cocaine addict--alchoholic--womanizer--arrogant, crusty SOB for years--but yet he finds the church, changes his ways, marries a good woman, becomes a family man, does a few fireside chats with tears in his eyes and all the sudden he is the cats meow to most Mormons--he is one fine outstanding hunk of Mormon man--he will probably by his association with Mormonism will be the catlyst to persuade individuals to investigate the church and possibly convert--who knows? But old Teddy who was trying to change his personal life for the good and seemed to be seeking for the light, especially the last several years of his life--well, we will have people within the church and without--that will still only judge him because of his drinking, womanizing and for driving off a bridge with Mary Jo, 40 years ago. Was he wrong for not reporting the incident for more than 9 hours?--yes, dead wrong. Did he try to do everything to save Mary Jo after the car went into the water? Only Ted Kennedy and God know that. Did he drive of that bridge on purpose? Obviously he was impaired from alchohol which I know is not an exuse but a fact. Try living with that for the rest of your life on your conscience--not real easy I'm sure. Quote
FlaviusHambonius Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 I wonder if one of the first people he sees is Mary Jo.I wonder if some of the first people that the Apostle Paul beheld was the many Christians that he willingly persecuted? Quote
FlaviusHambonius Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 I really do fill for this man and where he is now in repaying those moments of mortality accounting.If you really do 'feel' for this man don't worry about his accounting--worry about your own. Quote
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