"Hot Mormon Muffins" calendar

[sixpacktr]

But, are you then saying that we teach the kids to be modest so that they can NOT be when they are adults, since they are adults? To what purpose then teach them to be modest unless it is to teach them that they should dress that way their entire lives?

I watched a bit of the trailer on the website. Gotta say, that is one well endowed momma, and the camera made sure that THAT was emphasized about every 5 seconds. But since she is doing it for breast cancer, THAT must have been why they were falling out of her dress.

Sure hope she doesn't have any daughters that decide when they are 14 or so to dress like a tramp to get the boys' attention, you know, because dear old MOM did it to prove a point. Because, well, THAT would be wrong...

Either you're in or you're out. You can't say one thing and then do another. And say what you will, these women were out to embarrass the church.

[Moksha]

So now that the calendar is out and the pictures are acceptable

to be viewed on local Salt Lake City television, do you think there might

be a chance that BYU will reconsider the rescission of Chad Hardy's diploma?

[Carl62]

While the purpose of teaching modesty is the same there's no reason to expect the adults and teens to have the same "rules" /QUOTE]

And why not? Show me in any talk any where by any church leader where the rules of modest style clothing and dress in the church differs from girls to women or vice versa. This I can't wait to see. And yes, for this, I will wait.

[georgia2]

In reading the article, yeah, the only reason given for him being ex'd was for making calendars that are in poor taste. Since when do we, as a church, WANT to be accepted by the world or their standards?

And the 'cover muffin mom' talked of how she got 'mad' that the church was so unfair to the creator Chad when she knew nothing of the circumstances.

Satan shall lead them CAREFULLY down to hell, or so Nephi claims. I don't know anything of these women, but it seems that this calendar, just like 'men on a mission' is an attempt to make the church and its people look foolish. And there are consequences to that, whether you want them or not...

AMEN !

Doesn't anyone else see the correlation in the way the one on the front is dressed to a playboy bunny outfit? Doesn't anyone else know the real meaning of muff in?

The guy is vindictive and angry because is sexual desire is called "an abomination" I messaged him a long time ago and he pretends he's such a sweet misunderstood guy but when you call it as it is he lets out his true venom and is only interested in bringing worthy members down to his level.

WE all have temptations, things are only abominations when we ACT on them.

[nbblood]

The calendar itself doesn't really bother me. I can appreciate humor and a decent calendar. I would think that women that represent the church well would dress according to church standards though.

What does bother me is the words, from the website, of the women that posed from the calendar. Those words, in some cases, to me are slanderous and blasphemous of the church they supposedly represent. They openly criticize church authority based on their personal opinions. They most likely don't know much beyond what is published (and neither do I), yet they criticize the leaders within the church. Some blatantly disregard the appearance standards of the church. Why one would choose to involve themselves in a project that they could predict with near certainty would not be approved by church standards is beyond me.

Now, I don't know if the claims from the website are true. In other words, I don't know if these women are actually members. I don't know if those are their words. I don't know if they all knew who they were getting involved with in making the calendar. I don't know the circumstances behind their employment for posing for the calendar. I don't know a lot of things about this calendar. So, my opinions are based solely on the information that I do have, which essentially is the website and news stories about the calendar.

I disapprove. But I'm not the person they have to answer to. Of course everyone says and does things that they eventually regret. I'm pretty sure that is the case for at least some of these women. I worry and hope for them. I hope this does not lead to serious repercussions that these women will regret now and forever.

That all said, I've done worse. I've paid a dear price in regret and repentance, but I've done worse. I hope for the best outcome for the church and these women.

Oh, and I do love a fresh, hot muffin for sure!

[fatima]

I won't be so kind as to bite my tongue. I'm curious about what reason the Church has to excommunicate Reid. In fact, as far as I'm aware, Reid still carries a temple recommend. So what evidence do you have that he should be excommunicated?

I guess I need to apologize. I thought his pro-abortion stance was in direct opposition to Church teaching. I thought he spoke against the Church's position re: Prop 8 in California. This is why I compared him to Pelosi and Sebelius, both Catholics who publicly endorse choices and lifestyles that are in direct oppostion to Church doctrine.

Mea culpa.

[FunkyTown]

AMEN !

Doesn't anyone else see the correlation in the way the one on the front is dressed to a playboy bunny outfit? Doesn't anyone else know the real meaning of muff in?

The guy is vindictive and angry because is sexual desire is called "an abomination" I messaged him a long time ago and he pretends he's such a sweet misunderstood guy but when you call it as it is he lets out his true venom and is only interested in bringing worthy members down to his level.

WE all have temptations, things are only abominations when we ACT on them.

You messaged him saying his sexual desire is called an abomination?

That sort of language hardly opens up a dialogue or makes people want to listen. If you did, indeed, use language like this then you might want to consider using the type of language the prophets do when talking about this.

[FairChild]

Wonder who gets the $$$$ from the sales of the calendar? Just curious. If the women made $$$$ posing, is it a tithable income?

[hordak]

While the purpose of teaching modesty is the same there's no reason to expect the adults and teens to have the same "rules" /QUOTE]

And why not? Show me in any talk any where by any church leader where the rules of modest style clothing and dress in the church differs from girls to women or vice versa. This I can't wait to see. And yes, for this, I will wait.

It's next to the talk that says it's ok for adults to date singly or hang out with those who don't live gospel standards.

Brother Jones , a 16 year old kid, says he's going to hang out with his friend Tommy. It's know that Tommy likes to drink. The standard advice for him would be to not hang out with Tommy as Tommy is a bad influence, his parents may even forbid it.

Brother Jones, a 40 year old adult, says he's going to hang out with his friend Tom. It's known that Toms not a member and likes to drink. The advice is have a good time, set a good example, invite him to church etc.

Sister Smith, a 16 year old kid, says she has a date this weekend. She is asked who's going with her. Not only the date himself but what friends are they doubling up with.

Sister Smith, a 30 year old adult, says she has a date. She is asked who with, referring to the date himself.

I'm not saying this calendar is "right" I have no problem with the pics themselves but it certainty is a "stab" at the church and i can understand the outrage. And if these women are endowed they may be breaking some sort of rule by taking of the garment when not necessary.

Then again Gladys Knight does and still gets invited to sing at large church functions

But my point is that it is not hypocritical to expect different things from kids then adults, we do it all the time.

[FunkyTown]

I should point out that 'Taking off the temple garment when it's not required' is subjective. If you're posing for a racy calendar, I have to say I would be more worried if they thought walking through with a temple garment on would be appropriate.

I take off my temple garments for:

1) Swimming.

2) Working out.

3) Showering.

None of those are strictly 'Necessary', but my Bishop has no problem with that.

It's next to the talk that says it's ok for adults to date singly or hang out with those who don't live gospel standards.

Brother Jones , a 16 year old kid, says he's going to hang out with his friend Tommy. It's know that Tommy likes to drink. The standard advice for him would be to not hang out with Tommy as Tommy is a bad influence, his parents may even forbid it.

Brother Jones, a 40 year old adult, says he's going to hang out with his friend Tom. It's known that Toms not a member and likes to drink. The advice is have a good time, set a good example, invite him to church etc.

Sister Smith, a 16 year old kid, says she has a date this weekend. She is asked who's going with her. Not only the date himself but what friends are they doubling up with.

Sister Smith, a 30 year old adult, says she has a date. She is asked who with, referring to the date himself.

I'm not saying this calendar is "right" I have no problem with the pics themselves but it certainty is a "stab" at the church and i can understand the outrage. And if these women are endowed they may be breaking some sort of rule by taking of the garment when not necessary.

Then again Gladys Knight does and still gets invited to sing at large church functions

But my point is that it is not hypocritical to expect different things from kids then adults, we do it all the time.

[Tarnished]

I personally don't agree that the calendar is harmless, I also don't think that the creator of it was making it just to make a fun calendar of pretty Mormon women. The pictures are of the women in bras and panties. Some of the pictures cover up more, like the woman in the babydoll dress, however it still is basically women in lingere posing for a pin up calendar. It is basically like the early Playboys, very soft core, but still porn. What is the purpose of the calendar? Is it to show pretty picture of good Mormon women? No, it is to show a picture of these women that turns them into a sexual object. Just like the Missionary calendar, it turns the men who posed for it into sexual objects. I find it sad that these people felt ok with posing for these pictures, I feel it shows that they have their minds in a place where what the world thinks is more important than what God thinks.

I wandered around the site a bit, just because I was curious to see if there was any info about why he made the calendar. I clicked on the Mormon Muffins for TV Dinners, I watched a few of the videos and was bothered by the mixture of LDS terminology and sexual innuendos. The purpose of the website and the calendars is not to provide wholesome material but rather to create a very soft core porn option for people. The sad thing is that the world has reached a point where a woman in her bra and panties is not shocking but rather "not a big deal".

[Generally_Me]

How is no one caring about the double meaning of "hot Mormon muffins" that I posted 2 pages ago? Am I reading a bit too far in thinking that the phrase "hot Mormon muffins" could be taken wrongly on a racy calendar?

[AmyKate88]

Looks like porn to me.... I'm honestly really surprised that those women posed for it! I mean, some of them are mothers, and I would think they would want to set a better example for their kids. I mean, how are you supposed to instruct your daughter to wear modest clothes when you've posed for a objectifying calendar?

[Tarnished]

How is no one caring about the double meaning of "hot Mormon muffins" that I posted 2 pages ago? Am I reading a bit too far in thinking that the phrase "hot Mormon muffins" could be taken wrongly on a racy calendar?

No, I think you are right. In fact, wandering around the site gave me the impression that you were absolutely right.

[Carl62]

Ummm, why am I being quoted on something I never said as in post #35? Is there more than one Carl62 on this board?

[Wingnut]

I thought his pro-abortion stance was in direct opposition to Church teaching.

We are individually accountable. One can be pro-choice without having (or paying for) an abortion herself/himself.

How is no one caring about the double meaning of "hot Mormon muffins" that I posted 2 pages ago? Am I reading a bit too far in thinking that the phrase "hot Mormon muffins" could be taken wrongly on a racy calendar?

I think that was probably exactly the point.

[Moksha]

AMEN !

Doesn't anyone else know the real meaning of muffin?

I do know there have been a goodly number of girls from well-bred

Hampton families who like to play tennis, wear pink sweaters

jauntily tied around the neck, have a brother nicknamed "Skip" and

themselves go by the nickname "Muffin or Muffy".

If this is not the sign of Satan, what is? And speaking of waters,

these "Muffies" can frequently be found on yachts!!!

:)

[Elphaba]

How is no one caring about the double meaning of "hot Mormon muffins" that I posted 2 pages ago? ?

Perhaps because it's a play on words in that there really is a muffin called "Mormon Muffin." Most everyone who lives in Utah has heard of them. There is a restaurant nearby that makes them, and they are delicious.

There is also a restaurant close to Temple Square that makes them, but I don't remember the name.

Am I reading a bit too far in thinking that the phrase "hot Mormon muffins" could be taken wrongly on a racy calendar/

I don't think the pictures meet the Church's definition of modesty; however, I don't think Hot Mormon Muffins is meant to be pornographic. I know the sex-related definition, but it would never have occurred to me that this is what the makers of the calendar meant.

As I said above, I think it's just a play on words, and I personally think it's a clever one.

Elphaba

[Carl62]

Whatever happened to "avoid even the appearance of evil" like I've heard in so many talks given throughout the years. I guess that's now completely out the window.

[pam]

I happen to agree with you Carl.