Starberry Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Okay so it says we are only to worship one God. Yet Jesus and God are 2 different beings. If we are supposed to worship jesus and worship God isn't that like worshipping 2 Gods? I'm really confused about how this stuff works. I do not understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Only way I can explain it. We follow the teachings of Christ and we worship God the Father. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnn727 Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 And you probabably never will understand it completely on this side of the grave. God does not fit into mankinds neat little boxes.But let me try: President Monson, President Eyring and President Uchdorf are all Presidents, correct? 3 seperate individuals all correctly called PresidentAre there then 3 Presidencies? no, there is one Presidency with 3 members.Similiar thing with God Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starberry Posted February 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 So we don't worship jesus we just follow his teachings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deseretgov Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 We don't worship Christ. But the only way we can properly worship God is through Jesus Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john doe Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Everything Christ has done is done for the Father. All glory that comes to Christ He has deferred to the Father. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faded Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Okay so it says we are only to worship one God. Yet Jesus and God are 2 different beings. If we are supposed to worship jesus and worship God isn't that like worshipping 2 Gods? I'm really confused about how this stuff works. I do not understand it. Well, technically, the wording of the Old Testament could be better translated. The word often used is Eloheim. Eolheim is the plural word for God, so Eloheim = Gods. But they are "one eternal God without end." How does this work? When Jesus Christ prayed to the Father, he asked that his disciples could become one just as he and the Father are one. One in purpose. Completely united. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost completely united in their purpose of bringing to pass "the immortality and eternal life of man."We pray to the Father. We receive forgiveness of our sins through the sacrifice of the Son. We receive answers to our prayers through the Holy Spirit. All three always act together. But we pray to the Father because he is the Highest and Christ himself set the example to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rameumptom Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 We worship the Father in the name of Christ. Christ receives his glory from the Father. As we worship the Father, Christ, as part of the Godhead, receives greater glory. There is but one Godhead, and the Father shares that worship with all those in the Godhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmarch Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Okay so it says we are only to worship one God. Yet Jesus and God are 2 different beings. If we are supposed to worship jesus and worship God isn't that like worshipping 2 Gods? I'm really confused about how this stuff works. I do not understand it.Who do you pray to? If you pray to God you are worshipping God, if you pray to CHrist you are Worshipping Christ.While praise may be part of worship, praise does not = worship. We praise and respect christ and other holy men quite often, altho Christ more so, and God most of all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starberry Posted February 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Oh so we are not nessicarily worshipping Christ just worshipping God in his name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmarch Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Oh so we are not nessicarily worshipping Christ just worshipping God in his name?yeswhen we close by "in the name of Christ" it's like saying that we are grateful to be brought to and represented to God by Jesus christ so we can give him (God) our prayer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starberry Posted February 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Oh that makes sense. So we do not worship jesus. we worship only God but we worship God in the name of jesus? This is making more sense now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmarch Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Oh that makes sense. So we do not worship jesus. we worship only God but we worship God in the name of jesus? This is making more sense now.Yes, and we do so because that is what Christ said to do. Does Christ deserve to be wroshipped? yes he does, and I really don't think a person will be punished for doing so, but he's commanded us to pray to the Father instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starberry Posted February 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Okay good I'm not confused anymore. That feels so nice. Thanks for the help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkenheimer Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 My dad taught us growing up that we worship God the Father in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, through the power of the Holy Ghost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dymmesdale Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Could someone explain to me how John 1:1 can be true if Jesus is not God? I have looked at the Greek, and it seems pretty clear to me that Jesus is God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rameumptom Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Jesus IS God. But he is not God the Father. The Greek tells us that the Word was God and was with THE God. Two separate beings.And that is what Bible scholars are coming to acknowledge. Ancient Jews were not into monotheism, but into monolatry (a belief in many Gods, but only focused/worshiping one). Margaret Barker, OT scholar and Methodist preacher, explains in her book, "The Great Angel, Israel's Second God" that Jesus was Jehovah, the second God in the Old Testament and Angel of the Presence of El. They believed in two Gods over Israel, Jehovah being subordinate to Elohim. And early Christians also understood this, as they directly tied Jesus to Jehovah of the Old Testament.Being a God is not an absolute thing. Rather it is a measure along a line of divine power. In my thread on Isaac Newton, we can read where Newton also understood this.God the Father is the absolute God. Yet he gives divine power to some under him, making them subordinate Gods. This is why Jesus can say that God is greater than he (Jesus) is, and tell a man that there is no good/perfect one except the Father. Jesus can be God and be subordinate to the Father, who has given Jesus his divine power, authority and calling as a second God.This also explains why God gives such power to many others. Ancient texts show Adam, Enoch, Abraham and others being made into subordinate gods. In 3 Enoch, he is taken up to heaven where he is clothed in holy white garments. He is given a heavenly new name, Metatron. Then Enoch is placed upon God's throne, where the angels surrounding the throne worship him.We see in the Book of Revelation where an angel steps in for Jesus in showing John everything. Yet, we know it isn't Jesus himself, because when John tries to worship him, he is told not to (Rev 19:10). And in John, we read where we can sit on God's throne and rule with him (Rev 3).God can empower whomever he wishes to also be gods. Yet these are subordinate to Him, and worship Him as the absolute God, even El Elyon (God Almighty). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiJolly Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 I worship God the Christ when I am in His presence. Otherwise, I worship God the Father. HiJolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nikki_Elaine Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 Think of Jesus like the Zip Code on the envelope.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marts1 Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 I worship God the Christ when I am in His presence. Otherwise, I worship God the Father. Just as the Nephite's did when Jesus visited with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faded Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 (edited) Could someone explain to me how John 1:1 can be true if Jesus is not God? I have looked at the Greek, and it seems pretty clear to me that Jesus is God. I believe in God the Father, God the Son Jesus Christ, God the Holy Ghost. These three beings constitute "one eternal God" without end, or in other words, they are the Godhead.So please clarify your question for me. Are you saying that your reading of John 1:1 leads you to believe that Jesus Christ and God the Father the same person? Or am I to understand your question to mean something different? Edited March 22, 2010 by Faded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyTown Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 We don't worship Christ. But the only way we can properly worship God is through Jesus Christ.Best. Answer. Ever.Kudos to Deseret. I am memorizing this answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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