Jamie123 Posted August 25, 2010 Report Posted August 25, 2010 Does anyone else feel wary when they hear sentences beginning with that phrase? Urban Dictionary defines it as meaning "when everything is taken into account". I suspect many people use it to present their conclusions as fact but can't be bothered to give evidence or argument to back them up. And this (I further suspect) usually means their arguments are shaky and their evidence nonexistent. How often do you hear a well-reasoned proposition which goes against another person's prejudices rebutted with: "Well at the end of the day, blahdy blahdy blah blah"? (Another version is "When all is said and done....") Quote
FunkyTown Posted August 25, 2010 Report Posted August 25, 2010 While I do not personally use that phrase, I would use it if someone were arguing something that was irrelevant. "(Insert something here) isn't fair! (insert here) would be far more fair. This is stupid.""At the end of the day, this is your job. Because it's your job, you will do it this way. It's not up for discussion. It's your job."Does anyone else feel wary when they hear sentences beginning with that phrase?Urban Dictionary defines it as meaning "when everything is taken into account". I suspect many people use it to present their conclusions as fact but can't be bothered to give evidence or argument to back them up. And this (I further suspect) usually means their arguments are shaky and their evidence nonexistent.How often do you hear a well-reasoned proposition which goes against another person's prejudices rebutted with: "Well at the end of the day, blahdy blahdy blah blah"?(Another version is "When all is said and done....") Quote
gabelpa Posted August 25, 2010 Report Posted August 25, 2010 "When all is said and done, that's just the way it has to be. I hope you understand, that at the end of the day, there is nothing we can do." Had to phone in for support on a proprietary hardware system out here at work, and I swear, that's what the support rep said to me. I then proceeded to tear him to shreds over his obligations under our service contract. Quote
Tarnished Posted August 25, 2010 Report Posted August 25, 2010 We had a realtor who used this phrase a lot. But it worked the way she used it. "Well if you go with this house you have the nice yard and the big rooms, but at the end of the day there is still the mold problem." Problem was that she used it so often that my husband began to pick it up as well. I am not hesitant about people using it, I just sometimes hear it too often. Quote
Jamie123 Posted August 25, 2010 Author Report Posted August 25, 2010 While I do not personally use that phrase, I would use it if someone were arguing something that was irrelevant. "(Insert something here) isn't fair! (insert here) would be far more fair. This is stupid.""At the end of the day, this is your job. Because it's your job, you will do it this way. It's not up for discussion. It's your job."Yes that's a good point. It can be used to mean: "However good your arguments may be they don't address a basic fundamental problem, which is that...etc."E.g."Using nuclear energy is better than burning fossil fuels because it doesn't release greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere.""Yes, but at the end of the day the nuclear waste has to be disposed of."I think it's the finality of the statement that irritates me most: It's as if the person is saying: "My argument trumps every other possible consideration, so the matter is therefore closed." It would be humbler to say something like: "Yes that's true, but on the other hand...etc." Quote
Wingnut Posted August 25, 2010 Report Posted August 25, 2010 I read a couple of years ago that "at the end of the day" was the most commonly used cliché in the English language. Oddly enough, until I read the article, I couldn't remember ever having heard the phrase. Quote
Truegrits Posted August 25, 2010 Report Posted August 25, 2010 While I have read both the phrases, "Well at the end of the day" and "When all is said and done" in articles and books, like Wingnut, I have not experienced that in my daily life. Quote
Wingnut Posted August 25, 2010 Report Posted August 25, 2010 While I have read both the phrases, "Well at the end of the day" and "When all is said and done" in articles and books, like Wingnut, I have not experienced that in my daily life."When all is said and done" is one I'd heard, but not "at the end of the day." I've since heard and used both of them. I think it may just be a case of not noticing something until it's brought to my attention. Quote
Just_A_Guy Posted August 25, 2010 Report Posted August 25, 2010 The bottom line is, you're all just talking nonsense. Quote
Mahone Posted August 25, 2010 Report Posted August 25, 2010 "When all is said and done, that's just the way it has to be. I hope you understand, that at the end of the day, there is nothing we can do."Had to phone in for support on a proprietary hardware system out here at work, and I swear, that's what the support rep said to me. I then proceeded to tear him to shreds over his obligations under our service contract.Off topic I know, but did this involve trying to explain to the rep why the only operating system that is supported with the aforementioned hardware being < windows XP is not acceptable in real life, or similarly annoying situation? Quote
UrbanFool Posted August 25, 2010 Report Posted August 25, 2010 I've never heard the phrase either. Maybe it's that OTHER English. Quote
mordorbund Posted August 26, 2010 Report Posted August 26, 2010 I've never heard the phrase either. Maybe it's that OTHER English.Oddly enough, until I read the article, I couldn't remember ever having heard the phrase.At the End of the Day excerpt from Les Miserables[THE POOR]At the end of the day you're another day olderAnd that's all you can say for the life of the poorIt's a struggle, it's a warAnd there's nothing that anyone's givingOne more day standing about, what is it for?One day less to be living.At the end of the day you're another day colderAnd the shirt on your back doesn't keep out the chillAnd the righteous hurry pastThey don't hear the little ones cryingAnd the winter is coming on fast, ready to killOne day nearer to dying!...[The foreman and workers, including Fantine, emerge from the factory][FOREMAN]At the end of the day you get nothing for nothingSitting flat on your butt doesn't buy any bread[WORKER ONE]There are children back at home[WORKERS ONE AND TWO]And the children have got to be fed[WORKER TWO]And you're lucky to be in a job[WOMAN]And in a bed![WORKERS]And we're counting our blessings!...It's touring around the US if you need an excuse to hear the phrase several times. Quote
UrbanFool Posted August 26, 2010 Report Posted August 26, 2010 LOL! I've never seen Le Mis. I guess I'm deprived. Quote
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