FlaviusHambonius Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I just heard about this on the radio on the way home from work.Father of The 5 Browns recovering from crash, facing sex charges - ksl.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamjet Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Yes I saw that on ksl early this morning. Sad story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenamarie Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Can I say I'm not surprised? Not that I know the Browns' personally, but it seems to happen so often that the parents of extremely talented kids are abusers of some sort. (Verbal, sexual, emotional, or a combination). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamjet Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Can I say I'm not surprised? Not that I know the Browns' personally, but it seems to happen so often that the parents of extremely talented kids are abusers of some sort. (Verbal, sexual, emotional, or a combination).I can agree with you to a point, but we just don't know what happened. Not to excuse the act, but it could be a lot of things from family to prostitutes. There are many who are in jail and registered offenders because a 17 year old passed themselves off for a 19 year old. Only a reading of the court records will clear it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john doe Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 It was confirmed today by a spokesman for the group that the daughters are the alleged victims in this case. He was supposed to plead to a few charges tomorrow, but that will likely be delayed until he is well enough to appear in court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamjet Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) It was confirmed today by a spokesman for the group that the daughters are the alleged victims in this case. He was supposed to plead to a few charges tomorrow, but that will likely be delayed until he is well enough to appear in court.Confirmed.Just horrible.I've worked with people (yes, women to) who have abused children. The abuser always was abused themselves as children. It's a perpetual cycle that doesn't end until someone stands up and stops it. I can tell you that most likely right now there is a huge tsunami of anguish hitting then all right now. All my prayers for the family because they have a lot of stuff they are going to have to deal with in the near and far future and none of it is going to be pretty. Edited February 17, 2011 by slamjet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiJolly Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) Can I say I'm not surprised? Not that I know the Browns' personally, but it seems to happen so often that the parents of extremely talented kids are abusers of some sort. (Verbal, sexual, emotional, or a combination).Yep. It seems most really talented people have some sort of inner turmoil that drives them to excel. Or, as Agatha Christie put it... "Happy people are failures because they are on such good terms with themselves, they don't give a damn." I'm happy, if anyone cares... HiJolly Edited February 17, 2011 by HiJolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiJolly Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Seems to me that if you've been shamed so badly that you just can't live with yourself, you'd take the precaution of releasing your seatbelt before you drive your porche off the road... HiJolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Keith Brown pleads guilty to sexually abusing daughters - ksl.comThe father pleaded guilty today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john doe Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 According to what I've read, the daughters went to authorities when they found out that the father wanted to start managing young talent. They did not want him to do to others what he did to them. But according to one news report, a spokesperson for the father claims he turned himself in after being racked with guilt. I tend to believe the daughters' side of that story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbanFool Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 He turned himself in to his Bishop if I recall correctly, not the authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applepansy Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 I am really troubled by the assumption that all talented people have been abused. That sort of general assumption isn't fair to the people who are gifted and never experienced abused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenamarie Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 I am really troubled by the assumption that all talented people have been abused. That sort of general assumption isn't fair to the people who are gifted and never experienced abused.I didn't say "all" I said "often" (and not even "more often", just "often"). Becoming as good as they are at the piano is not easy. It takes a LOT of time and a LOT of dedication. And having all 5 kids get up to that high a skill level? Sexual abuse aside, I'm sure the home environment must have gotten pretty heated pretty often, even if it was with good intentions and without the intent to abuse. I'm sure each of the kids had their moments where they wanted to quit, where they didn't want to practice so hard, where they didn't want to go onto a stage, where they didn't want to meet family expectations anymore, where they wanted there to be *something* more to their life than playing the piano. They probably didn't feel like that all the time, or even most of the time for some of them, if they really do have a genuine joy of playing the piano. But getting up to that skill level, as a family, who spends sooooo much time together (they were homeschooled as well), with the pressure of being a united group and not "letting the team down", it's walking a fine line between healthy dedication to the art, and soul-killing submission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierGuy Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 He drove off a cliff with his wife. The crash is being investigated. Sounds like he tried to kill himself and wife too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Or it was just a horrific accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 5 Browns father sentenced to at least 10 years in prison - ksl.comPROVO — The father of the classical piano-playing group the 5 Browns was ordered to prison Thursday.Keith Brown, 55, was given a 10-years-to-life sentence for sodomy on a child, a first-degree felony, and sentences of one to 15 years for each of two counts of sex abuse of a child, a second-degree felony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenamarie Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 5 Browns father sentenced to at least 10 years in prison - ksl.comPROVO — The father of the classical piano-playing group the 5 Browns was ordered to prison Thursday.Keith Brown, 55, was given a 10-years-to-life sentence for sodomy on a child, a first-degree felony, and sentences of one to 15 years for each of two counts of sex abuse of a child, a second-degree felony.Probably the ONE upright thing he did was not fight the charges. I bet his daughters are relieved to not have to testify on the stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applepansy Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Probably the ONE upright thing he did was not fight the charges. I bet his daughters are relieved to not have to testify on the stand.Or maybe he's ready to repent? I'm sure his daughters are relieved to not have to testify against their father. To me it shows that even though he hurt them, he did love them at least enough to not hurt them more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroads Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 He deserves that sentence. Hopefully it's something that will prove useful in repenting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 A few weeks after this story broke, I was talking with a friend of mine who is good personal friends with one of the Brown girls. My friend told me that she'd been waiting for the story to surface since last August. The girls filed charges with the police last Summer, and the father only went to his bishop in February. It was speculation on my friend's part, but she suggested that the only reason he did actually was because he wanted to pre-empt the news coverage and having his bishop summon him. Also according to my friend, who has been communicating with her Brown friend throughout the entire affair, the car accident was pretty fishy too -- apparently he called a family member before even the police.The one thing that really stands out that she told me her friend said was this: "He cannot be around kids. He just can't." For that reason alone, I'm glad for the sentence. I'm only disappointed that it's not longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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