pam Posted July 18, 2011 Report Posted July 18, 2011 I can't get past the thought of using MOE as a punching bag. I think I'll use these: Quote
NeuroTypical Posted July 18, 2011 Report Posted July 18, 2011 Hi MOE, My only feedback, is that I'm always happy to see people so upset about programs directed at their boys. Parents with strong opinions about raising their boys, will be producing a much finer quality dating stock for my daughters, than those which don't care. Maybe you could move to CO in about 6 or 7 years? I'll send some daughters your way. Quote
MarginOfError Posted July 18, 2011 Author Report Posted July 18, 2011 Hi MOE,My only feedback, is that I'm always happy to see people so upset about programs directed at their boys. Parents with strong opinions about raising their boys, will be producing a much finer quality dating stock for my daughters, than those which don't care.Maybe you could move to CO in about 6 or 7 years? I'll send some daughters your way.In six or seven years, my oldest daughter will be nine or ten years old. My second daughter will be 5 or 6 years old. And even if they were older, they aren't likely to be your daughters' type. But in principle, I agree with you. Quote
Backroads Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 All right, I confirmed the 11 year old leader thing. The all-powerful system that complains about everything had no qualms with registering a woman as the 11-year-old leader. Quote
Kindan Posted August 9, 2011 Report Posted August 9, 2011 MOE: So what did you decide and what happened next? Quote
MarginOfError Posted August 9, 2011 Author Report Posted August 9, 2011 After asking some more logistical questions about what they were expecting from the stake scouting specialist, I promptly declined the position on the grounds that there's no way I could meet my current family and scouting obligations and fulfill the new expectations. For instance, one of their first expectations was that I would attend the roundtable meeting every month; but their roundtable meeting is the same night as my troop's roundtable meeting (further complicated by the fact that the stakes troops are not only in a different district, but in a different council). Like a chicken, I sent my declination via e-mail, and the only response I've received is a "thank you for considering this." Sometime in the next week or two, the stake president is expected to be in our ward to release me from my current calling. There may be more discussion about it there. If there is, I'll point out that I chose to decline when it was apparent that I couldn't successfully fill the expectations they had. I will also mention that even if I could, there was a huge gap in what they were expecting from me and what I would be willing to do. If the stake president is interested, I'd be happy to provide him with the seven pages I've written about how to build a quality scouting unit and how Church policies conflict with that process. He's welcome to take it and keep what he wants and dispose of what he doesn't. Anyway, ask me again in a few weeks and the saga will finally be over. Quote
slamjet Posted August 9, 2011 Report Posted August 9, 2011 I still want to beat the snot out of you. Just because. And hey, it might be fun for the both of us! Quote
Suzie Posted August 9, 2011 Report Posted August 9, 2011 Sometime in the next week or two, the stake president is expected to be in our ward to release me from my current calling. .Is this unrelated to the fact that you declined the new calling or was something you was expecting? Quote
MarginOfError Posted August 9, 2011 Author Report Posted August 9, 2011 The release was completely expected. The bishop has been thinking about releasing me for a couple months now, and I've been thinking about asking to be released for a couple months (my wife and I are both on the ward council, and it's getting hard to manage). In fact, we instituted a policy in our ward last November against having spouses both on the ward council*...we got grandfathered in. So don't worry. I'm not being punished. In fact, the stake is still having me serve as an auditor. I think they're disappointed, but I would be surprised to see vengeance out of these men. *It wasn't as big a deal when ward council only met once a month, but when we went to semi-monthly meetings, it got a lot harder. Quote
Suzie Posted August 9, 2011 Report Posted August 9, 2011 In fact, we instituted a policy in our ward last November against having spouses both on the ward council*...we got grandfathered in..So don't worry. I'm not being punished.Actually, that's not what I thought. I thought maybe since you declined the new calling you probably thought what the heck..I will ask for a release of my current calling, too. Quote
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