Windseeker Posted October 11, 2012 Report Posted October 11, 2012 I think I'm going crazy. I remember disctinctly walking out of our chapel after watching one of the Saturday sessions of conference and reflecting on hearing how in the next life we will have an increase in our affection. I felt this was an answer to recent questions related to marriage, family relationships after death that have been on my mind. I'm thinking about families and marriages who tuff it out to the end, and really don't have allot of love in their home. It was mentioned in one of the talks almost as a side note. I've done a word search on all the talks and can't find anything even closely related. Does anyone recall if this was ever said and what talk it was? Do you think we will have the same feeling about each other after this life as we do now? I don't. I believe there is an increase of affection and here is why. I believe that in the next life the books will be opened and we will not only see our life but the hardships, struggles, burdens that were on others. Some of the pain we experienced will be wiped away with understanding and we will be glad we forgave in this life. I think it will also increase our affection for those we love as we will understand with perfect understanding. Anyway, I thought this was confirmed in conference and now I'm back to square one. Quote
Vort Posted October 11, 2012 Report Posted October 11, 2012 I don't recall that talk. I think we will feel toward each other then pretty much like we do now. We might gain greater perspective and such, but love is cultivated, and if we have not cultivated it here, I doubt it will magically appear there. Quote
Windseeker Posted October 11, 2012 Author Report Posted October 11, 2012 I think there is a difference in appearing out of no where and increasing. I agree that it just doesn't magically appear. I just don't think it will take as much effort. I will listen to every conference talk again and see if they just didn't include it in the printed version. Quote
Guest Posted October 11, 2012 Report Posted October 11, 2012 I tend to agree with you, Windseeker. But I don't remember the talk. :) Quote
applepansy Posted October 12, 2012 Report Posted October 12, 2012 Windseeker, let us know what you find. I don't remember hearing the talk either. Quote
pam Posted October 12, 2012 Report Posted October 12, 2012 I listened to each talk and took detailed notes on each of them and I don't remember anything like this in any of the talks. Quote
Connie Posted October 12, 2012 Report Posted October 12, 2012 I don't know. It does sound a little familiar for some reason but maybe i'm crazy too. :) Could it have been Pres. Eyring's talk in the Relief Society Conference? He spoke of increased love for those we serve. Quote
Windseeker Posted October 12, 2012 Author Report Posted October 12, 2012 It was mentioned as a side note, it had little to do with the main topic. I remember walking out of the building and thinking 2 things that were significant for me from this session, the importance of reading the scriptures and how we have increased affection in the next life. If I find It I will post it. Thanks for wracking your brains for me. Quote
Blackmarch Posted October 12, 2012 Report Posted October 12, 2012 I think I'm going crazy. I remember disctinctly walking out of our chapel after watching one of the Saturday sessions of conference and reflecting on hearing how in the next life we will have an increase in our affection. I felt this was an answer to recent questions related to marriage, family relationships after death that have been on my mind. I'm thinking about families and marriages who tuff it out to the end, and really don't have allot of love in their home. It was mentioned in one of the talks almost as a side note. I've done a word search on all the talks and can't find anything even closely related.Does anyone recall if this was ever said and what talk it was?Do you think we will have the same feeling about each other after this life as we do now? I don't. I believe there is an increase of affection and here is why. I believe that in the next life the books will be opened and we will not only see our life but the hardships, struggles, burdens that were on others. Some of the pain we experienced will be wiped away with understanding and we will be glad we forgave in this life. I think it will also increase our affection for those we love as we will understand with perfect understanding. Anyway, I thought this was confirmed in conference and now I'm back to square one.if we continue to progress I don't see how we would not get an increase of affection in the next life.IMO also there being no satan to tempt, and being in some sort of paradisiacal state would probably also improve folks moods muchly. Quote
Dravin Posted October 12, 2012 Report Posted October 12, 2012 It was mentioned as a side note, it had little to do with the main topic. I remember walking out of the building and thinking 2 things that were significant for me from this session, the importance of reading the scriptures and how we have increased affection in the next life. If I find It I will post it. Thanks for wracking your brains for me.It's possible it was the spirit rather than a talk that communicated the idea to you. I know I've left meetings with thoughts and ideas that weren't contained in the content of the talk. Quote
ClickyClack Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 Alright.... treading into "mormon myth" territory here. Or at least third-hand info. I was told by one gentleman that his grandfather was a VERY grumpy old man. Not long after his grandmother passed away, his grandfather started changing and becoming much more friendly. It turns out that the grandmother came back to visit the grandfather, and told him: "Where I am, everything we do is motivated by love. Unless you learn to be motivated by love, you cannot come where I am." So, does that mean that we will have an increase of affection? Maybe sorta. Once all of your other motivations, worries, and obligations that come with mortal life are stripped away (no more paying the bills, being to work on time, fixing three meals each day for the kids, etc.), perhaps we are able to focus more fully on loving other people. Quote
ztodd Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 I'm searching the talks- found this one from the Relief Society meeting that's kind of close- The Caregiver Quote
Seminarysnoozer Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 I don't recall that talk.I think we will feel toward each other then pretty much like we do now. We might gain greater perspective and such, but love is cultivated, and if we have not cultivated it here, I doubt it will magically appear there.What about the love we had for each other before this life began that is now being covered by the veil? Did Jesus not know us personally before this life? We did not have some of that kind of relationship with our fellow brothers and sisters?It is not that it will magically appear, it is kind of like returning home after summer camp, I think one realizes how much they love their family after being away for a while. I believe it will be increased with the perspective we obtain here and we will build upon such love. Everyone here loved Christ and His plan, thus keeping their first estate. Some don't show love towards Christ here but when the veil is removed will realize their error. Since I don't know how the veil really works, it is almost like "magic" but we tend to call it faith or having a broken heart, etc. Quote
Seminarysnoozer Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 Alright.... treading into "mormon myth" territory here. Or at least third-hand info.I was told by one gentleman that his grandfather was a VERY grumpy old man. Not long after his grandmother passed away, his grandfather started changing and becoming much more friendly. It turns out that the grandmother came back to visit the grandfather, and told him:"Where I am, everything we do is motivated by love. Unless you learn to be motivated by love, you cannot come where I am."So, does that mean that we will have an increase of affection? Maybe sorta. Once all of your other motivations, worries, and obligations that come with mortal life are stripped away (no more paying the bills, being to work on time, fixing three meals each day for the kids, etc.), perhaps we are able to focus more fully on loving other people.That is the greatest commandment. Love is what allows us to enjoy the experiences of others. Think about the only way to have endless joy, it can't be done with personal achievement alone, there would be a limit to that. The way it becomes eternal and endless is if is dependent on the success of others. We can only enjoy the success of others if we love them as ourselves. To a small degree, for example, we experience this when our child does well in school. Why is it that I feel more joy when my child gets an A in class whereas when the child who may sit right next to mine gets an A, I don't feel the same magnitude of joy? It is because it has to do with the level of love that I have for my own child. If that kind of love is extended towards everyone around us, which will be the character of all those who make it into the Celestial Kingdom, by definition, then whenever any Celestial being does something praiseworthy we all feel the joy that comes from that act. That is how our joy can be eternal. This is the message of the gospel, to teach us to learn to like that kind of living.The more selfish a person is, the more they just look at their own achievements as a source of happiness the more like Satan they become and their joy is limited. True happiness comes from finding joy in the success of others. And that is only possible when we love our neighbor as our self. Marriage is the tool that magnifies that capacity more than any other while in this life. I think having children is a close second to that power. Then, we try to extend that out to our greater family, the ward and then the people in our ward boundary, etc. It all starts with the family but the intention is to expand that same love to everyone, the greater family. Quote
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