Black Turnout above White in 2012 Election

[pam]

If minorities are in favor of better laws on guns then yes it will make it safer for everyone. Perhaps we ought to research who supports better gun laws.

And then we get back into gun control laws. And we know what side the current President stands on that one.

[annewandering]

And then we get back into gun control laws. And we know what side the current President stands on that one.

I edited my post as you posted. :) This should not be about guns.

[HoosierGuy]

...We ALL need to vote to get a true demographic representation in elected positions. If we had that it cant help but be good for the country, unless we feel some are more important than others and that is just wrong.

Right on! We do need more people to get out and vote!

[Backroads]

I'll add, you are not a no one. You are special and you deserve universal healthcare, the right to visit stores and walk down the street knowing a mental nut will not have a gun, the right to work and know your employer can't fire you unless they have a legitimate reason, the right to vacation time and sick time, the right to affordable cost of living items like electricity, cable/satellite, internet and water. You have the right to not be ripped off and gouged by large industries. Now here I am supporting you and others, why do you fight against yourself, those around you and those in the future?

Hopefully that Pew report will turn out to be correct and the minorities will become a larger and larger voting block. I do believe that will bring the good changes quicker.

My personal philosophy takes issue with this. With all due respect to pam, what has she done that she deserves healthcare at my expense? What has she done that she can all but ruin my company and still deserve a paycheck from me?

The problem with saying that all these things are "rights" is that one can only assume not a single person has to work to get these things; in which case, how are they supplied? Someone somewhere would have to do something.

As far as I can tell, all pam (and anyone else) has the right to do is seek healthcare the way she wants it, to protect herself in anyway she can without affecting others, to seek a good job that is mutually beneficial to her and her employer, to seek ways to survive (by the way, most of the world would laugh at you for considering cable tv and internet necessities of life).

Sure, if she wants to vote to make these things more or less universal or at least easier to access, that's fine.

But it's a little much to call them "rights".

[Guest]

No. Good times will return when we get a certain group out of politics or at least minimize them. And that group is very radical. That's why the Pew report is good. Another voting block rising and hopefully that will help minimize the radicals. But it's not just one voting block, it takes a community (or village)!

Minorities is connected to the color of your skin or your gender. Therefore when you say you want a certain group minimized in politics by minority votes, you're basically saying you want white male votes minimized because white males are radicals. That is racism.

[bytor2112]

Right on! We do need more people to get out and vote!

We need more educated people to get out and vote and less mindless party hacks voting like they were rooting for their favorite football team regardless of how stupid the players.

Minorities, particularly black voters give up their political power when they vote in lock step with one party. Blacks have suffered the most under Obama...highest unemployment.

[Guest]

[Bini]

^ Boooo!

Are we back to mud slinging again?

[LittleWyvern]

Yeah, if you're going to post a poorly Photoshopped Obama picture, at least post this much funnier one:

[Guest gopecon]

As Bytor said, it is not good when any group blindly supports one party. Many blacks have personal values that are fairly conservative (pro-life, pro traditional marriage, pro-school choice, etc.). Unfortunately, one party is able to take 90%+ of their votes without ever addressing these issues. They just demogogue the other party as racists and keep collecting the votes.

[Windseeker]

Quote from an angry white guy..

"When the people find they can vote themselves money,

that will herald the end of the republic."

~ Benjamin Franklin

[ploomf]

Quote from an angry white guy..

"When the people find they can vote themselves money,

that will herald the end of the republic."

~ Benjamin Franklin

Does that apply to the takers of corporate welfare as well? Or is it only poor people you are aiming that at?

[SpiritDragon]

At the risk of wasting my time sharing an opinion that will be scorned instantly by those with an opposing view I am adding my thoughts to the mix. As a Canadian I had no ability to vote in this past U.S. election but I was very interested in it. I have no ties to either the rebublican or democrat parties and no prior animosity toward either presidential candidate.

Looking at the platforms objectively, I thought both parties were genuinely trying to implement plans that they feel would help the country, yet I believe only one of those plans would actually work. It appears that given Obama's track record he should never have been allowed a second term. Admittedly, I did not follow Obama's first presidential run against John McCain(?) all that much, but it seemed to me it was devoid of substance... empty promises of hope and change. After four years he failed to turn the economy around or accomplish anything of real value to the country and again was running on nothing; a record that doesn't speak for itself and left him playing to the simplicity of the weak minded who are dazzled by smoke and mirrors and miss the real issues.

Why people would vote to suppress the very corporations that employ the working class is beyond me, when what they want is a job.

Why is it considered radical to believe in personal accountability for actions?

Why would some one vote for a president that is destroying the constitution by eliminating religious freedoms?

Why vote to make America's economy weak? Obama's economic plan to redistribute wealth is stagnant, it creates no new wealth. Not to mention that with the global economy we have if the united states is not business friendly, business can move shop to other countries in a hurry who will be glad to accommodate them.

If voting for an America that is based on printing money instead of earning it, an America without the stability and honour of it's constitution as given by inspiration to the founding fathers, a president who incites racism and sexism to bolster his votes is change for the better than I will never understand your kind of logic.

[pam]

All of the questions that many of us are wondering as well.

[Guest]

At least 49% of Americans agree with you, SpiritDragon. It boggles the mind, doesn't it?

[Matthew0059]

Why people would vote to suppress the very corporations that employ the working class is beyond me, when what they want is a job...

Why vote to make America's economy weak? Obama's economic plan to redistribute wealth is stagnant, it creates no new wealth. Not to mention that with the global economy we have if the united states is not business friendly, business can move shop to other countries in a hurry who will be glad to accommodate them.

From Charles D. Evans' vision of the future, published in 1893:

"Confidence is lost, wealth is arrayed against labor, labor against wealth, yet the land abounds in plenty of food and raiment, and silver and gold in abundance. Thou seest also the letters written by a Jew have wrought a great confusion in the finance of the nation; which together with the policy of many wealthy ones, has produced distress and do produce further sorrows.

"Factions now sprang up as if by magic. Capital had entrenched itself against labor, and

throughout the land labor was organized in opposition to capital. The voice of the wise sought to tranquilize their powerful factors in vain. Excited multitudes ran wildly about, strikes increased, lawlessness sought a place in the regular government."

As for "why", the self-destructive ideologies and practices that always accompany Babylon are getting more and more popular in America. Subconsciously many of us want to destroy ourselves, and the leaders are playing that basic desire out on a massive scale. Simply put, the majority of the people are choosing that which is not right because they are convinced it is easier than choosing that which is right, and they care more for ease of life than their responsibilities to their Creator.

[Saldrin]

Found this interesting.

Bob Parks from Black and Right.

[Still_Small_Voice]

No. Good times will return when we get a certain group out of politics or at least minimize them. And that group is very radical. That's why the Pew report is good. Another voting block rising and hopefully that will help minimize the radicals. But it's not just one voting block, it takes a community (or village)!

Good times will return to America when the majority of the people forsake their selfish ambitions to seek liberty and place the LORD first.