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From my experience, the Marriage and Family Relations class has typically been taught by an older couple. I can see the usefulness in that, but I've also seen how it can discourage younger marrieds from wanting to go.

What would be your reaction to a not-so-old couple teaching the class? Like one that had been married less than 15 years, instead of closer to 50?

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I am in a married student ward, so we don't actually have an option. When I was in the Sunday School presidency, we called a friend of mine to teach who'd been married only six months.

But then, I guess in that ward we are all in the same boat.

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It wouldn't bother me. But, I also think the bishopric should be aware of which couples would attend.

For example, if the ward had many couples who were on their 2nd or more marriage, then someone with alot of experience (especially if one of them experienced divorce or if the couple went through some difficult, divorce thinking experiences) would be more appropriate to teach the class.

If you have many couples who are newly married, then someone who is younger with less than 10 yrs experience might be better suited.

In my ward, that class is held for invited only couples. It was taught as a stake (meaning, the stake had a couple teaching each Thursday night for invited couples from each ward). I think the reasoning behind the invite was to control the attendance.

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I like the idea of having a male and female who aren't married to each other teach it. Each married, but not to each other. Then you get more than one perspective and life experience teaching.

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I like the idea of having a male and female who aren't married to each other teach it. Each married, but not to each other. Then you get more than one perspective and life experience teaching.

I understand the idea but I think a male and female married to different people shouldn't be preparing lessons about marriage together. Seems like that's asking for problems to happen. :o

I also think it shouldn't matter much who is teaching or what their age is, whatever the class, because ideally they are there to have material prepared and lead a discussion, not to preach or hand out their own philosophies. So ideally, it would be the ideas of every couple in the room that are being learned from, not just the people teaching. But things never happen ideally. :)

The problem in our ward is that the same (very lovely) older couple has taught the class for a few years, and their teaching style isn't very participatory. My husband is in the Sunday School presidency and there has been some discussion about getting a younger couple with a different style to teach it. So that's what prompted this thread.

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I understand the idea but I think a male and female married to different people shouldn't be preparing lessons about marriage together. Seems like that's asking for problems to happen. :o

I've seen it work well in more than one ward, but I understand the reticence.

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From my experience, the Marriage and Family Relations class has typically been taught by an older couple. I can see the usefulness in that, but I've also seen how it can discourage younger marrieds from wanting to go.

What would be your reaction to a not-so-old couple teaching the class? Like one that had been married less than 15 years, instead of closer to 50?

I haven't looked at any of the posts in this thread other than the OP, so I hope I am not duplicating what somebody else has said.

One ward that I was in would rotate the couples each week. I thought it worked great! Many couples got an opportunity to teach and the age and years of marriage of the couples varied. It was great!

My rule of thumb...as long as the teacher/speaker of any class or talk/testimony has the spirit, then they will have my attention. ^_^

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From my experience, the Marriage and Family Relations class has typically been taught by an older couple. I can see the usefulness in that, but I've also seen how it can discourage younger marrieds from wanting to go.

What would be your reaction to a not-so-old couple teaching the class? Like one that had been married less than 15 years, instead of closer to 50?

No reaction :P I think both couples could do an amazing job.

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Yeah, kind of. After the conversation with the SS president we knew he was considering us, and it felt good to us. We're actually pretty excited about it.

As a side note, I think it also explains to some degree why we've been bickering more lately. It seems like when something like this comes up we get a related challenge right before.

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I understand the idea but I think a male and female married to different people shouldn't be preparing lessons about marriage together. Seems like that's asking for problems to happen. :o

In the instances where I've seen two teachers from different marriages teach, they haven't really worked together. The general format is that they take turns leading the discussion or might ask the other to cover a certain topic in a lesson. But the actual amount of time spent collaborating on lessons has been pretty small.

The idea behind the format was to bring different perspectives into the class without having to place the burden of teaching solely on one individual.

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In the instances where I've seen two teachers from different marriages teach, they haven't really worked together. The general format is that they take turns leading the discussion or might ask the other to cover a certain topic in a lesson. But the actual amount of time spent collaborating on lessons has been pretty small.

The idea behind the format was to bring different perspectives into the class without having to place the burden of teaching solely on one individual.

I haven't attended this class. But, I don't understand this idea--one individual having the "burden" of teaching? First, this class is typically taught by a couple--so the couple has the burden. Not one person (or it shouldn't). Further, I teach a class every Sunday--the burden is placed on one person. I don't feel it is a burden but even if it were, we do it all time. What's the big deal?

Do wards only have troubled marriages attend the class? I would think that perspectives from the class would be welcome. I recognize that teachers vary in their skills, but ideally, the teacher is asking for comments/stories from the class members.

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I haven't attended this class. But, I don't understand this idea--one individual having the "burden" of teaching? First, this class is typically taught by a couple--so the couple has the burden. Not one person (or it shouldn't). Further, I teach a class every Sunday--the burden is placed on one person. I don't feel it is a burden but even if it were, we do it all time. What's the big deal?

Do wards only have troubled marriages attend the class? I would think that perspectives from the class would be welcome. I recognize that teachers vary in their skills, but ideally, the teacher is asking for comments/stories from the class members.

I used to be with you in this idea, and perhaps describing it as the "burden of teaching" is inaccurate. But, like you, I used to think it was kind of silly to call multiple teachers for a class. How hard is it, really, to prepare a 40 minute lesson each week?

I converted to the other side under my current Sunday School President. He insists on having multiple teachers for each of the adult* classes. His experience has been two-fold: 1) teachers prepare better lessons when they have a little more time in between lessons to prepare, and 2) students respond to different teachers in different ways. Having multiple teachers has allowed more students to connect with a teaching style more often than when there is only one teacher at a time. I have to say that having served under him for a while now, I see his point.

So while the it may not be all that great a burden to prepare a lesson every week, I do think that having multiple teachers, with all of the benefits that brings--multiple viewpoints, teaching styles, backgrounds, and abilities to connect to different people--has greatly improved the overall quality of our sunday school. If you have a teacher that can appeal to everyone and prepare high quality lessons week after week, then you're lucky. But I think those kind of people are pretty rare.

Anyway, when we've called a man and a woman from different marriages to teach the Marriage and Family Relations Course, I think it would be safe to say that they've worked as closely together as our three Gospel Doctrine teachers have worked together (which is to say, very little).

* We give our youth classes one teacher because the mentorship is so much more important in that age group.

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As far as who attends:

Our ward sends around a sign up to see who is interested, then attendance is by invitation. We were invited before without either of us signing up, and we have a good marriage, so I wonder if the bishop tries to get people in different places on purpose.

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As far as who attends:

Our ward sends around a sign up to see who is interested, then attendance is by invitation. We were invited before without either of us signing up, and we have a good marriage, so I wonder if the bishop tries to get people in different places on purpose.

It could be that he also just wants all couples to attend the class at some point. So, he may be mixing it up with troubled marriages and good marriages to 1) keep things confidential (it wouldn't be hard to figure out who is having trouble if only troubled marriages are invited) and 2) in order for comments during class to be from a mix of good and troubled marriages.

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We got invited and what was explained to us was that they invite a wide variety of different couples.

Couples with kids, couples without, rough marriages, great marriages, couples with non member spouses/spouses who have to work sundays, couples new to the ward or old, newly weds and 20+ years married.

The idea is to bring a wide variety of backgrounds opinions and experiences to the class to better help everyone.

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