pam Posted January 4, 2016 Report Posted January 4, 2016 The Church put out a notice today regarding the armed occupation in Burns, Oregon. http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/church-responds-to-inquiries-regarding-oregon-armed-occupation?cid=social_20160104_56933236&adbid=10153612704212013&adbpl=fb&adbpr=53305042012
Guest Posted January 4, 2016 Report Posted January 4, 2016 So were are not blown about by every wind of doctrine.
NeuroTypical Posted January 4, 2016 Report Posted January 4, 2016 What - not everyone who calls themselves Captain Moroni and waves a gun around in a ranger station, will be backed by the church? Well my Thursday plans just went out the window... zil, mirkwood, RipplecutBuddha and 6 others 9
RipplecutBuddha Posted January 4, 2016 Report Posted January 4, 2016 *devising another way to declare myself immune from having to pay for things I want* Backroads 1
Backroads Posted January 4, 2016 Report Posted January 4, 2016 The Libertarian and wife of a rancher's kid in me vaguely sympathizes, but really, folks. Come on. NeuroTypical 1
Just_A_Guy Posted January 4, 2016 Report Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) A plague o'er all their houses, I say. The BLM has been scheming to get the Hammonds off their land for years. But the Hammonds are in the habit of misleading investigators (you should read the police report where they were investigated for child abuse), and I don't think they're being forthright about those fires they set. And Cliven Bundy is such a clown that even the Hammonds have asked him to go away, Edited January 4, 2016 by Just_A_Guy Backroads 1
Guest MormonGator Posted January 5, 2016 Report Posted January 5, 2016 A plague o'er all their houses, I say. My thoughts totally Mercutio.
Aussie Mongrel Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 I'm reading different articles that say that both the Hammond and Bundy lands have minerals and other natural resources on them? And apparently the Clintons and Harry Reid have done deals with China and (their own pockets) and have leased their land and surrounding lands for mining rights? In other articles I've read, it has stated that although the US economy is going to collapse the UShas abundant natural resources that the Gadianton robbers / global elite have purchased and now arewanting to confiscate from private land owners to preserve under the guise of wildlands for their own use and greed? In addition to this, I read that the Hammond's were burning their own land to get ready for growingand the fire got out of control and crossed over and burnt some federal land? As a result both the father and son have already served prison sentences for the fire but now are being sent back to prison. I would like to know more about what is happening in this case so if anyone knows more or differentto what I have read could they please let me know? I'm not condoning the take over of an abandoned federal wildlife building but I would be interested in knowing what else could be done to save these families properties from being taken. Or is it a case of when they take your coat give them your cloak as well?
NeuroTypical Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 Here's a source for good articles to read about the issue. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeterson/2016/01/more-thoughts-on-the-oregon-stand-off.html Windseeker 1
Windseeker Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 Here's a source for good articles to read about the issue. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeterson/2016/01/more-thoughts-on-the-oregon-stand-off.html Along those lines I thought this was interesting
Aussie Mongrel Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Thanks for the links and the video! I know that Amanda Marshall probably has held a grudge against the Hammond's for some time now? I've seen this often contracting for (DoCs) Australia's department of community services. When a case worker holds a grudge against parents or family members of a child they have already removed from their care and put into foster care; it causes a bias that interferes with the case workers ability to make the right decision for that child's future. It also seems like the federal government is really causing a lot of problems for land owners especially if they are on or near the areas of America that they have been listed for wildlife sanctuaries; which in most cases of course have minerals and natural resources on them.
Guest Godless Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) Update: 6 arrested, 1 dead after shootout with FBI and local law enforcement. https://m.fbi.gov/#https://www.fbi.gov/portland/press-releases/2016/joint-statement-by-the-fbi-and-oregon-state-police-on-law-enforcement-activity-near-burns-oregon Edited January 27, 2016 by Godless
Guest Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 Why did Waco just come to my mind right now... Okay, so I was watching Fixer Upper yesterday, but still.
Just_A_Guy Posted January 27, 2016 Report Posted January 27, 2016 The Bundys' Facebook page claims the dead one was shot with his hands in the air, in the act of surrendering.We shall see . . .
NeuroTypical Posted February 3, 2016 Report Posted February 3, 2016 Yeah, I watched the surveillance video from the choppers or drones. Dood did indeed have his hands in the air and was surrendering, at least until he reached for something in his jacket. Like, with both hands. After watching that video, there's absolutely no question in my mind that the cops acted appropriately. mirkwood 1
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