LeSellers Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 14 minutes ago, MormonGator said: 32 minutes ago, LiterateParakeet said: In schools, we also have the issue of showers . . . are teachers (you and others) talking about that? Great point. The unforeseen consequences for this are huge. How could the predictable consequences be "unforeseen"? And I do not believe they could be unintended, either. Lehi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LeSellers said: How could the predictable consequences be "unforeseen"? And I do not believe they could be unintended, either. Lehi Believe it or not, even liberals don't want women assaulted. Not everyone thinks through the issues. Sometimes they are blinded by their cause or myopic zeal. Edited May 19, 2016 by MormonGator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroads Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 38 minutes ago, LiterateParakeet said: In schools, we also have the issue of showers . . . are teachers (you and others) talking about that? Not in my building, but then again, we're elementary and I rarely get to chat with the jr. high folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroads Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, MormonGator said: Believe it or not, even liberals don't want women assaulted. Not everyone thinks through the issues. Sometimes they are blinded by their cause or myopic zeal. The fable of "Belling the Cat" comes to mind. We want this cause, but what are we willing to risk for it? That's where we as society fail to think through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Backroads said: Not in my building, but then again, we're elementary and I rarely get to chat with the jr. high folks. I'm sure it's not an issue much where you teach, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroads Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 minute ago, MormonGator said: I'm sure it's not an issue much where you teach, is it? Not that I'm aware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroads Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 minute ago, MormonGator said: I'm sure it's not an issue much where you teach, is it? Not that I'm aware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeSellers Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) 9 hours ago, MormonGator said: Believe it or not, even liberals don't want women assaulted. Not everyone thinks through the issues. Sometimes they are blinded by their cause or myopic zeal. Two things apply: 1) We're not talking about John'n'Jane Doe, we're talking about the self-anointed elites in the O'bama administration. 2) While they may not want women assaulted, they're more than willing to accept women being assaulted as a price to achieve their goal: total enslavement of the populace to their will. Part of that is to undermine the sexual (and other) morality of USmericans. Moral people are not likely to accept lordship by other mortals, but immoral people, as you (I believe) must have a powerful government. That's the key. Why, we wonder, are so few progressives standing up to Hillary Clinton's attacks on her husband's prey, Juanita Broaderick, Kathleen Wiley, and a host of others? They do point out Donald Trump's (for instance) assumed "war on women" (not remotely supported by creditable evidence). It has nothing to do with the attacks, and it isn't that women who make these charges must be believed, it's who their attacker is: if he's progressive, he gets a pass. If he opposes their agenda, he must be destroyed. They're not above manufacturing "evidence" and charges. We could look at Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill. She lied under oath to the Senate about his pursuing her. Nothing in her charges was creditable except to those who hated Thomas because of his conservatism. Oregon Senator Bob Packwood, long a champion of "women's issues", touched a woman in an elevator and lost his seat because he was a Republican. His offense was not the groping, it was his party. Nothing he did compares to William "BJ" Clinton's "peccadilloes", but the former's punishment was harsh (and deserved), while Clinton's not-even-a-slap-on-the-wrist mocks the offices he held, the women he destroyed (along with his wife's superb assistance), and the state and country he serviced. So, yeah, John'n'Jane may not want women assaulted, but there are those who don't care. Lehi Edited May 19, 2016 by LeSellers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhoades Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 13 hours ago, LeSellers said: I have taught our own children to read in weeks, not years. Our daughters and daughters-in-law have done it. We couldn't even get our children to talk in 6 weeks, I can't imagine teaching them to read. We use a more gradual approach that takes about 5 to 6 years. Although it takes a while, they very much enjoy the process and they become very good readers in the end. Backroads 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 2 hours ago, LeSellers said: USmericans. Shows a lot that you still use that even though several of us have told you that it bothers us. You don't have to do what we say of course, but a little tact and politeness can go a long way. Disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estradling75 Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) 18 minutes ago, MormonGator said: Shows a lot that you still use that even though several of us have told you that it bothers us. You don't have to do what we say of course, but a little tact and politeness can go a long way. Disappointing. Indeed... when anyone... shows such a clear and blatant disregard for the opinions of others.... they should not be surprised when their own opinions and ideas are ignored and treated with disregard... Edited May 19, 2016 by estradling75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, estradling75 said: Indeed... when anyone... shows such a clear and blatant disregard for the opinions of others.... they should not be surprised when their own opinions and ideas are ignored and treated with disregard... Es75- I do apologize if I offended anyone-I really do. In fairness to myself though if anyone brought it up-and only one guy has, we talked it out and there is no misunderstanding now-I apologize immediately and stop doing it. Even if my jokes go too far I make it clear that is no intent to be obnoxious or hurtful. So if I offended you with my post to LeSellers I do apologize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSG Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 21 minutes ago, MormonGator said: Shows a lot that you still use that even though several of us have told you that it bothers us. You don't have to do what we say of course, but a little tact and politeness can go a long way. Disappointing. The generic use of "American" leads to all sorts of problems, like Canadians thinking they're actual people just because they happen to share a continent with some.. Backroads 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estradling75 Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 minute ago, MormonGator said: Es75- I do apologize if I offended anyone-I really do. In fairness to myself though if anyone brought it up-and only one guy has, we talked it out and there is no misunderstanding now-I apologize immediately and stop doing it. Even if my jokes go too far I make it clear that is no intent to be obnoxious or hurtful. So if I offended you with my post to LeSellers I do apologize. My post was an agreement with your post.... not a challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, NightSG said: The generic use of "American" leads to all sorts of problems, like Canadians thinking they're actual people just because they happen to share a continent with some.. Canadians are people? (Kidding everyone, I love Canada) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, MormonGator said: Canadians are people? (Kidding everyone, I love Canada) Where do you think us Americans get our maple syrup and bacon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estradling75 Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, NightSG said: The generic use of "American" leads to all sorts of problems, like Canadians thinking they're actual people just because they happen to share a continent with some.. That indeed would... However using the letters USA clearly defines the subject... without the issue of alienation.... it even uses less letters so it is more efficient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Eowyn said: Where do you think us Americans get our maple syrup and bacon? And our hockey! I really do love Canada, for the record. It's just too cold for me to live there. Down in Florida we have a TON of natural born Canadians and the stereotype about them being sweet, helpful, nice and pleasant is just like the LDS stereotype of LDS being sweet, nice, pleasant and helpful. 100% correct and accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yjacket Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 29 minutes ago, NightSG said: The generic use of "American" leads to all sorts of problems, like Canadians thinking they're actual people just because they happen to share a continent with some.. I agree. I remember when I first got to South America on my mission. People ask where are you from, I'd say "America" and wow did they get offended, and Latins are about the least politically correct people on the planet. I just learned to say "norteamericana" or "los estatos unidos". Since this is a world-wide forum, I don't find Leseller's use offending at all . . . I think it's a bigger comment on how easy it is to offend people. We all need to grow thicker skins. mordorbund 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 25 minutes ago, Eowyn said: Where do you think us Americans get our maple syrup and bacon? From moose and squirrel? 24 minutes ago, estradling75 said: That indeed would... However using the letters USA clearly defines the subject... without the issue of alienation.... it even uses less letters so it is more efficient Ahem... "fewer letters".... Oh, wait, this wasn't the pedant thread, was it? Nevermind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estradling75 Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 minute ago, zil said: Ahem... "fewer letters".... Oh, wait, this wasn't the pedant thread, was it? Nevermind. Gator... she is being mean to me.... deal with her zil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 minute ago, estradling75 said: Gator... she is being mean to me.... deal with her LOL^10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 `````` 2 minutes ago, yjacket said: I agree. I remember when I first got to South America on my mission. People ask where are you from, I'd say "America" and wow did they get offended, and Latins are about the least politically correct people on the planet. I just learned to say "norteamericana" or "los estatos unidos". Since this is a world-wide forum, I don't find Leseller's use offending at all . . . I think it's a bigger comment on how easy it is to offend people. We all need to grow thicker skins. I think what several of us are "offended" by is that he keeps using a term that we find silly/offensive/rude and he still chooses to use it. That doesn't show that we are "thin skinned" it shows that he doesn't care about our thoughts or views. So like someone else said, why should we care about his? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 minute ago, zil said: LOL^10 Computer privileges revoked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Just now, MormonGator said: Computer privileges revoked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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