Signs of the times?

[askandanswer]

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jan/19/sea-levels-could-rise-by-six-to-nine-metres-over-time-new-study-warns?CMP=share_btn_tw

Sea levels could rise by six to nine metres over time, new study warns

Genesis 7: 11  ¶ In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/18/world/2016-hottest-year/

(CNN)Last year was officially the Earth's warmest since record-keeping began in the 1880s, the World Meteorological Organization announced Wednesday morning.

That means 2016 set a global heat record for the third year in a row according to NOAA and NASA, who held a joint press conference on Wednesday to discuss the record.

Malachi 4:1 FOR, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

 

 

Aging | Why human lifespan is rapidly increasing: solving "longevity ...

www.aging-us.com/article/7kte23J8MQHCmQnf8/text

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by MV Blagosklonny - ‎2010 - ‎Cited by 54 - ‎Related articles

Healthy life span is rapidly increasing and human aging seems to be postponed. ... The progress of civilization (especially 60 years ago) allowed slow-aging individuals to survive until old age, emerging as healthy centenarians now. ... This dramatically increased the average lifespan.

Doctrine and Covenants 101:30  In that day an infant shall not die until he is old; and his life shall be as the age of a tree;

Just a few things to think about.........

[Guest]

[askandanswer]

Carb are you trying to ring a bell?

39 minutes ago, Vort said:

THE TRUE STORY OF THE HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME

The bellringer at the cathedral of Notre Dame had died, and a lengthy search for a successor had failed. Finally the archbishop himself began interviewing candidates for the job. No one suitable was found, and the archbishop began to despair of filling the vacancy.

Then one morning, in walked a short, hunchbacked, armless, incredibly ugly man, who said to the archbishop, "I am here to apply for the bellringer position." The archbishop looked the man over, then gently said, "My son, this job is too difficult for you. The bell is very heavy, and you have no arms to pull it." The man pleaded, "Just give me a chance!" Finally, the archbishop relented and escorted the applicant to the top of the bell tower. Upon reaching the bell, the man took off in a sudden sprint, then threw himself face-first at the bell. The most magnificent, beautiful tone rang out from the old bell. The man stood watching as the archbishop marveled at the miracle that had occurred. When the archbishop finally found his voice, he said, "Welcome, new bellringer!"

So began a year of wondrous beauty, as the hunchback bellringer faithfully executed his duties, to the delight of Paris. Never had such beautiful music emanated from the old bell tower of Notre Dame!

But one fateful, rainy night, while the hunchback scaled the tower to perform his duties, he slipped on the wet stairs by a window and plummeted to his death. A crowd quickly gathered around him. "It's the bellringer!" cried the people. "The bellringer is dead!", The archbishop, weeping, came out to witness the tragic sight. Someone in the small crowd asked, "What was this man's name?" The archbishop replied, "I don't remember his name, but his face sure rings a bell."

 

 

[Guest]

Utah is high enough above sea level that I shouldn't worry.

[Guest]

Real SOTT.

https://www.sott.net/article/214102-South-Pacific-sea-levels-Best-records-show-little-or-no-rise

And what on earth does this have to do with Noah or the burning of the Second Coming?

And NO, lifespan is NOT increasing.  It has stayed right around 120 years for millennia.

[Traveler]

 

Several years ago, when global warming was first being considered it was because of a 3% increase in temperature at the Antarctic (also at a time when the ozone disappeared from the upper atmosphere of the Antarctic).    Political forces already determined that such a drastic change in the environment had to be related to man (human population) changes.   An international scientific expedition was sent to the Antarctic to determine the cause and gather proof. 

Two results came out of that expedition.  Manmade carbon molecules (in particular - poly fluorocarbon molecules) in the upper atmosphere were not what had destroyed the ozone over the Antarctic.  And the second result was that atmosphere warming was not cause by man introduced carbon molecules in the atmosphere.  What was discovered is that the world’s second largest super volcano (largest is Yellowstone) existed under an approximately 3-mile layer of ice very close to the center of the south pole.  This volcano had been relatively quiet for thousands of years but was becoming active.  In fact, the activity is so strong and increasing it was determined that a major eruption within the next 500 years is eminent.  In geological time this means – NOW!!

Two things happened because of the science provided.  First; all references to the Antarctic as proof of global warming has quietly been dismissed by the political powers that financed the science to discover what was really happening in the drastic Antarctic warming trends.  Second; the discovery of the new super volcano was never published in mass public news circles but was limited to the strictly scientific white papers.  I assume this is because the political powers do not want anyone to know that what is happing in the Antarctic and wants to hide the fact that it is not cause by man and civilization.

When this super volcano erupts, if it follows the same pattern as the last major eruption the formed Yellowstone the entire 3-mile-thick ice layer of Antarctic will be immediately melted and the oceans of the world will raise approximately 60 feet in 48 hours.  This would mean that 80% of the world’s human population would have to evacuate to higher ground in less than 48 hours.  This is an impossible task and would result in the single greatest loss of human life to ever occur – not to mention the likelihood of territorial wars over the higher ground and plagues caused from mass starvation.   And all this could begin before you wake up tomorrow morning – or a few hundred years from now.

I would suggest that repentance NOW, be considered as the wise choice.

 

The Traveler

[Guest]

29 minutes ago, Traveler said:

When this super volcano erupts... the entire 3-mile-thick ice layer of Antarctic will be immediately melted and the oceans of the world will raise approximately 60 feet in 48 hours.  This would mean that 80% of the world’s human population would have to evacuate to higher ground in less than 48 hours.

It's worse than that.  The volume of ice in Antarctica is enough to fill up the oceanic areas of the earth an average of 242 ft.  If you use the 71% / 29% number for water and land area respectively, then 60ft is an optimistic estimate.  If you assume all land is a fraction of an inch above sea level, it will still mean about 170ft of flooding.

So, unless you're saying that not all  of the ice would melt...

29 minutes ago, Traveler said:

I would suggest that repentance NOW, be considered as the wise choice.

That's always a good suggestion.

 

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[Traveler]

10 minutes ago, Carborendum said:

It's worse than that.  The volume of ice in Antarctica is enough to fill up the oceanic areas of the earth an average of 242 ft.  If you use the 71% / 29% number for water and land area respectively, then 60ft is an optimistic estimate.  So, unless you're saying that not all  of the ice would melt...

That's always a good suggestion.

 

 

60 feet increase is a minimum.

 

The Traveler

[askandanswer]

21 hours ago, Carborendum said:

Real SOTT.

https://www.sott.net/article/214102-South-Pacific-sea-levels-Best-records-show-little-or-no-rise

And what on earth does this have to do with Noah or the burning of the Second Coming?

And NO, lifespan is NOT increasing.  It has stayed right around 120 years for millennia.

I mentioned Noah because in his time rising sea levels were a result of great wickedness, and brought about some unfortunate consequences, and there seems to be a belief, perhaps even some evidence, that we are experiencing rising sea levels and great wickedness today.

[Guest]

Just now, askandanswer said:

I mentioned Noah because in his time rising sea levels were a result of great wickedness, and brought about some unfortunate consequences, and there seems to be a belief, perhaps even some evidence, that we are experiencing rising sea levels and great wickedness today.

So, what does that have to do with Noah? or the burning of the Second Coming?

[askandanswer]

You know that God often works in patterns, eg, the damage and destruction that preceded His coming to the Nephites, is prophesied to happen prior to His second coming. 

[Guest]

29 minutes ago, askandanswer said:

You know that God often works in patterns, eg, the damage and destruction that preceded His coming to the Nephites, is prophesied to happen prior to His second coming. 

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And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.

Gen 9:11

 

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[estradling75]

1 hour ago, Traveler said:

  Second; the discovery of the new super volcano was never published in mass public news circles but was limited to the strictly scientific white papers. 

Please cite these scientific white papers

 

[Traveler]

46 minutes ago, estradling75 said:

Please cite these scientific white papers

 

How to get the information.  Do a Google search on volcanos.   Find a site that specializes in volcanoes.   Volcanoes.usgs.gov is a good one.   Use the “contact us” button and send an email.  Request information concerning the super volcano in the Antarctic.  You will be given access to White Papers (raw data) without commentary.   You may need help from a professor at a university that has a geological department for volcanoes.

As I said, because this is raw data; determining the importance of the information will not be a trivial task.  Good luck

 

The Traveler

[Fether]

2 hours ago, Traveler said:

How to get the information.  Do a Google search on volcanos.   Find a site that specializes in volcanoes.   Volcanoes.usgs.gov is a good one.   Use the “contact us” button and send an email.  Request information concerning the super volcano in the Antarctic.

The responsibility of the source rests on the shoulders of the one sharing the fact. You can't just say something and then tell everyone else to find the sources themselves. That's how fake news, gossip and rumors are made.

[Fether]

I don't think anyone argues that these are not the last days. 

What are we doing with our lives to show we are ready for it??

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Fether said:

The responsibility of the source rests on the shoulders of the one sharing the fact. You can't just say something and then tell everyone else to find the sources themselves. That's how fake news, gossip and rumors are made.

http://www.livescience.com/41262-west-antarctica-new-volcano-discovered.html

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/13/131118-antarctica-volcano-earthquakes-erupt-sea-level-rise-science/

https://phys.org/news/2015-04-antarctic-volcano-doesnt.html

The last link talks somewhat about the expedition.  So, I believe  @Traveler was talking about Deception Island.  But the details in these articles are just a tad off of what he was saying.

[Jojo Bags]

According to Al "the sky is falling" Gore, the arctic ice cap should have been melted by now. 

And in other news, Bertha May Mulberry-Popinjay claims she was abducted by ten foot tall space aliens.from her home in the the Sunny Side Up trailer park and was recruited for the Galactic Patrol.

[zil]

31 minutes ago, Jojo Bags said:

Galactic Patrol

Dude. Don't dis the Galactic Patrol - they're my best buds & their uniforms are almost as cool as the Navy's (former, I think now) dress whites.

[askandanswer]

12 hours ago, Carborendum said:

And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.

Gen 9:11

 

(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 61:14)

14  Behold, I, the Lord, in the beginning blessed the waters; but in the last days, by the mouth of my servant John, I cursed the waters.

 

(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 88:90)

90 And also cometh the testimony of the voice of thunderings, and the voice of lightnings, and the voice of tempests, and the voice of the waves of the sea heaving themselves beyond their bounds.

 

[Guest]

6 hours ago, askandanswer said:

(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 61:14)

14  Behold, I, the Lord, in the beginning blessed the waters; but in the last days, by the mouth of my servant John, I cursed the waters.

(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 88:90)

90 And also cometh the testimony of the voice of thunderings, and the voice of lightnings, and the voice of tempests, and the voice of the waves of the sea heaving themselves beyond their bounds.

So, again, what does that have to do with Noah?

[zil]

15 minutes ago, Carborendum said:

So, again, what does that have to do with Noah?

Carb, I don't think he's trying to draw a full, complete, mirror-image-style parallel, but rather, point out a general pattern:

1) Noah: People were wicked, God used a natural disaster to punish them for their wickedness

2) Now: People are wicked, perhaps God is using natural disasters to punish them for their wickedness (or to encourage repentance for those who are not too far gone)

Abstraction of similar circumstances into a basic pattern, that's all.

[Guest]

Just now, zil said:

Carb, I don't think he's trying to draw a full, complete, mirror-image-style parallel, but rather, point out a general pattern:

1) Noah: People were wicked, God used a natural disaster to punish them for their wickedness

2) Now: People are wicked, perhaps God is using natural disasters to punish them for their wickedness (or to encourage repentance for those who are not too far gone)

Abstraction of similar circumstances into a basic pattern, that's all.

Any way you dice it, his statements point to: "A global flood came in Noah's time because of wickedness.  Now we're going to see a global flood again because of wickedness".  The Lord has specifically been refuted by way of covenant.

[zil]

1 minute ago, Carborendum said:

Any way you dice it, his statements point to: "A global flood came in Noah's time because of wickedness.  Now we're going to see a global flood again because of wickedness".  The Lord has specifically been refuted by way of covenant.

I didn't see him suggesting there would be a global flood ala "every ounce of earth will be covered with water", nor even "we're gonna see the same kinda flood Noah saw".  I see him pointing at reports of rising sea levels (but not rising so far as to drown us all), and saying something like "could this be similar (but not identical) to what happened in Noah's day?  could this be happening because of modern wickedness?"

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, zil said:

I didn't see him suggesting there would be a global flood ala "every ounce of earth will be covered with water", nor even "we're gonna see the same kinda flood Noah saw".  I see him pointing at reports of rising sea levels (but not rising so far as to drown us all), and saying something like "could this be similar (but not identical) to what happened in Noah's day?  could this be happening because of modern wickedness?"

That makes about as much sense as saying global warming = the burning as an oven spoken of at the Second Coming.  Oh wait.  He said that too...  Hence my puzzling at his equations.  His application of the associative property comes nowhere close to reality -- for both phenomena.

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