LDSGator Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) It’s no crime to be ignorant of what’s going on in the world, but oh my. And who is this Putin guy? Edited June 28, 2023 by LDSGator Quote
Vort Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 More typical MSNBC crap. The fact that he didn't recognize the pronunciation of the word "Uyghur" doesn't mean he is unaware of the larger situation. How many of us, never having heard a talking head or anyone else actually say the word, would read "Uyghur" and think, "Oh, that's pronounced 'WEE-gr'"? If Suarez (whom I've never heard of) is ignorant of the larger situation, I agree it's unfortunate and seems to make the guy less qualified to run for President—but then, let's hold Biden to the same standard. Which MSNBC will never do, or for that matter the media in general. LDSGator, mordorbund and zil2 2 1 Quote
Carborendum Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, Vort said: More typical MSNBC crap. The fact that he didn't recognize the pronunciation of the word "Uyghur" doesn't mean he is unaware of the larger situation. How many of us, never having heard a talking head or anyone else actually say the word, would read "Uyghur" and think, "Oh, that's pronounced 'WEE-gr'"? If Suarez (whom I've never heard of) is ignorant of the larger situation, I agree it's unfortunate and seems to make the guy less qualified to run for President—but then, let's hold Biden to the same standard. Which MSNBC will never do, or for that matter the media in general. I didn't recognize the pronunciation either. I've never heard it pronounced until this video. I've only read it (about 100x). And in my mind, I certainly didn't pronounce it that way. scottyg and zil2 2 Quote
LDSGator Posted June 28, 2023 Author Report Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vort said: More typical MSNBC crap. The fact that he didn't recognize the pronunciation of the word "Uyghur" doesn't mean he is unaware of the larger situation. How many of us, never having heard a talking head or anyone else actually say the word, would read "Uyghur" and think, "Oh, that's pronounced 'WEE-gr'"? If Suarez (whom I've never heard of) is ignorant of the larger situation, I agree it's unfortunate and seems to make the guy less qualified to run for President—but then, let's hold Biden to the same standard. Which MSNBC will never do, or for that matter the media in general. He’s a RINO, so I like seeing him collapse and fall over this. He trounced the conservative alternative and his doing his best to make Miami more “moderate.” He’s also a thorn in the side of DeSantis, especially on the recent “Don’t Say Gay” bill. So you are defending someone who you’d disagree with on 75% of the issues. I also like seeing the GOP rally to defend him, knowing full well if it was Hillary or Biden they’d be pointing and laughing too. I get the MSNBC hate but Saurez was on the Hugh Hewitt show. Hewitt is no leftist. Edited June 28, 2023 by LDSGator Quote
LDSGator Posted June 28, 2023 Author Report Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Carborendum said: I didn't recognize the pronunciation either. I've never heard it pronounced until this video. I've only read it (about 100x). And in my mind, I certainly didn't pronounce it that way. It’s almost exactly how the exchange students we hosted pronounce it. That’s what made it funny to me. That, and Suarez is such an arrogant jerk that seeing him trip over this is chocolate to conservatives down here. Edited June 28, 2023 by LDSGator Quote
LDSGator Posted June 28, 2023 Author Report Posted June 28, 2023 The pure irony here is that it was first brought to my attention by someone who lives in the Miami suburbs and worked for the Trump campaign! Quote
mordorbund Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 1) I’m not a news junkie so I genuinely don’t know, has something happened recently to bring this back to the limelight? I thought the Uyghur issue cycled through 3 years ago. Was he also asked about his stance on Tibet? 2) When I first heard the term I was shocked that media so brazenly used the racist word. But then again I’m not running for public office. 3) 44 minutes ago, LDSGator said: He’s also a thorn in the side of DeSantis, especially on the recent “Don’t Say Gay” bill. So you are defending someone who you’d disagree with on 75% of the issues. Give us the 75 instead of the 25 and we’ll roll our eyes and say, “what a maroon”. Vort and LDSGator 2 Quote
LDSGator Posted June 28, 2023 Author Report Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, mordorbund said: Give us the 75 instead of the 25 and we’ll roll our eyes and say, “what a maroon”. Edited June 28, 2023 by LDSGator Quote
Vort Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, LDSGator said: So you are defending someone who you’d disagree with on 75% of the issues. You may be right, but my point stands. Crucifying someone because he doesn't recognize the pronunciation of a word is not what a seeker after truth does, but it is most certainly what MSNBC does to any politician they dislike, including all Republicans, including RINOs. LDSGator 1 Quote
Vort Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, LDSGator said: It’s almost exactly how the exchange students we hosted pronounce it. That’s what made it funny to me. The spelling is deceptive. The initial "U" makes it look like the word starts with the vowel "ooo". Instead, it's the semiconsonant "w". I gather the spelling is based on the Chinese romanization. In my own mind, I was thinking "OOee-gr", and would not have recognized "wee-gr" as the pronunciation of "Uighur" unless I had heard the pronunciation in a context I recognized. Someone asking, "What do you have to say about the /'wee-gr/ situation?" out of the blue, with no other context, would have made me think they were talking about some new Japanese game or Chinese social medium. I don't think "Uyghur" would have occurred to me. Carborendum and LDSGator 2 Quote
Vort Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 38 minutes ago, mordorbund said: Give us the 75 instead of the 25 and we’ll roll our eyes and say, “what a maroon”. mordorbund and LDSGator 1 1 Quote
LDSGator Posted June 28, 2023 Author Report Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Vort said: but my point stands it does, and it doesn’t. It does because maybe he did just mishear the question. It doesn’t, because he handled it pretty badly. If I understand the question (I’m no genius who is running for president) he should have been able to as well. Edited June 28, 2023 by LDSGator Quote
Carborendum Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Vort said: You may be right, but my point stands. Crucifying someone because he doesn't recognize the pronunciation of a word is not what a seeker after truth does, but it is most certainly what MSNBC does to any politician they dislike, including all Republicans, including RINOs. I don't know how this will cycle through the news. And I don't really care. I don't even know the guy other than from this dust up. That doesn't change the fact that have never heard the word pronounced before this day. I don't know why that is considered "defending" this guy. I have no idea who he is other than what today's news cycle has said about him. Quote
mordorbund Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 6 hours ago, LDSGator said: It’s no crime to be ignorant of what’s going on in the world, but oh my. Carborendum 1 Quote
Carborendum Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 40 minutes ago, mordorbund said: <snip> Libertarian Dad Jokes I had forgotten about that. I felt for him as well. The sad thing is that I knew about that same issue in Syria. But in that context, completely cold, I didn't know what the newscaster was asking either. If he had said "something" for context like,"Now let's turn to Syria. What would you do about the situation in Aleppo?" Then the answers would be easy. I believe Bill Clinton would have had a response to the cold question. But pretty much any other candidate since Bill, probably wouldn't have made the connection. Quote
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