Hemidakota Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 Yes, for the few out there of scholarly notoriety, upon the Savior’s resurrection, we do know that the graves were open for the just and they did receive there heavenly rewards. If that being the case, currently, there is no body for Abraham, Adam, Eve, and so on since we do know they were indeed just. Now, resurrection to make it simple is the mortal becomes immortal; thus the mortal flesh to be return to that disembodied spirit body and made perfect. 1] Many mummies found throughout the globe, dated before the Savior’s birth, what is the statues of these people? We have there body… 2] If the resurrection gates are open, why the prophets [including righteous people] since Christ not resurrected? Quote
utcowboy Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 It is said that we would be give a perfect body, it doesn't say, according to my inturpetation, that we would receive our original bodies. Quote
Guest tomk Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 1) I agree with utcowboy. For example, people consumed in a fire or atomic blast still get resurrected, even though their bodies were entirely consumed by fire. It may not (necessarily) need to be the EXACT elements from the original body. But it's interesting to wonder if they will or "need to be" the original elements -- due to eternal law or the Atonement -- "not one hair lost". 2) Who to say they haven't? Again, we may not be able to infer that someone has not been resurrected just because their body is still buried or there are bones in the casket! But I do get your point, and have wondered the same thing many times!!!!!! I guess it just boils down to how "open" you are to God working in ways that may not seem "intuitive" or "logical". Quote
a-train Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 Its not looking good for some of the Pharoahs.... -a-train Quote
inthearmsofsleep Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 A human being could be cloned using their original DNA but not their entire body... so what if that resurrection just consists of a perfect arrangement of their original DNA with a new body? Though, I don't know about this... because Christ took his original body upon resurrection. Even when someone has been cremated, the matter that made up their body is still there... it hasn't been destroyed. I assume it could still be arranged into what it used to be, regardless of its current form. I guess one day we'll find out Quote
Elgama Posted March 28, 2008 Report Posted March 28, 2008 It is said that we would be give a perfect body, it doesn't say, according to my inturpetation, that we would receive our original bodies.The simple answers are always the best - when the Saviour was resurrected people did not automatically recognize Him - given that people who are cremated can be resurrected presumably even if something was done to the body that made that one unusable a new one would be found. Also some Mummies weren't found in their tombs - grave robbers have been blamed hmmm-Charley Quote
WillowTheWhisp Posted March 28, 2008 Report Posted March 28, 2008 And................ what about people who have had accidents whilst alive and lost limbs? The amputated limbs are disposed of by the hospitals but I don't suppose that means the people will be resurrected without that limb.It's interesting how people didn't recognise Jesus at first after his resurrection. He must have been the same but different.I had a dream once about my late husband and although I knew it was him and recognised him he looked very different to how he had looked before he died. Quote
skalenfehl Posted March 29, 2008 Report Posted March 29, 2008 Yes, for the few out there of scholarly notoriety, upon the Savior’s resurrection, we do know that the graves were open for the just and they did receive there heavenly rewards. If that being the case, currently, there is no body for Abraham, Adam, Eve, and so on since we do know they were indeed just. Now, resurrection to make it simple is the mortal becomes immortal; thus the mortal flesh to be return to that disembodied spirit body and made perfect. 1] Many mummies found throughout the globe, dated before the Savior’s birth, what is the statues of these people? We have there body…2] If the resurrection gates are open, why the prophets [including righteous people] since Christ not resurrected?1. Their status is still deceased. Personally speaking and it's only conjecture, it's not hard for those who have been cremated or lost a limb, etc to resurrect with the same matter or "dust", from whence they came. The Lord can gather it up easily enough.2. Not everyone was called to come forth in the first resurrection immediately. It is still going on and will go on until Christ returns when the rest of us resurrect or a changed in the twinkling of an eye if we're still living. Some have come forth in the first resurrection but most have not. Not everyone needs to be resurrected, but those who have, had keys to pass on: Moroni, Peter, James. I suppose it has to do with their mission. There's no reason to suppose that others who have attained their reward are not resurrected, like Isaac, Abraham, etc. I'm still behind on all my studies, but this is my understanding. Quote
tubaloth Posted March 29, 2008 Report Posted March 29, 2008 Many mummies found throughout the globe, dated before the Savior’s birth, what is the statues of these people? We have there body… I would think you kind of answered this question already…we do know that the graves were open for the just and they did receive there heavenly rewards 2] If the resurrection gates are open, why the prophets [including righteous people] since Christ not resurrected? The gates where open I guess more for a while. But they aren’t open now. The confusion comes from the term “First Resurrection.” We think of this time after Christ as the First resurrection (which is true). But for us (living after Christ) there is going to be a “first resurrection.”After his resurrection, Matthew, an eye witness, informs us:And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.-Matt. 27:51-53.On this Western hemisphere similar scenes were enacted. After the resurrection of Christ the bodies of the saints arose and came out of the graves and appeared unto many.-See 3 Nephi 23:7-13.This was the first resurrection on this earth, but since it is past, we now speak of the resurrection which will take place at the coming of Christ as the first resurrection. It will be the first unto us.(Joseph Fielding Smith, The Way to Perfection [salt Lake City: Genealogical Society of Utah, 1949], 298.) To those who lived before the resurrection of Christ, the day of his coming forth from the dead was known as the first resurrection. Abinadi and Alma, for instance, so considered it. (Mosiah 15:21-25; Alma 40.) To those who have lived since that day, the first resurrection is yet future and will take place at the time of the Second Coming. (D. & C. 88:96-102.) We have no knowledge that the resurrection is going on now or that any persons have been resurrected since the day in which Christ came forth excepting Peter, James, and Moroni, all of whom had special labors to perform in this day which necessitated tangible resurrected bodies.(Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 2d ed. [salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1966], 639.) Quote
Moksha Posted March 29, 2008 Report Posted March 29, 2008 It is said that we would be give a perfect body, it doesn't say, according to my inturpetation, that we would receive our original bodies. Zombified bodies would be quite a drag for all eternity, would it not? Obviously reconstituted bodies would be the order of the day. Perhaps bright shiny ones with chrome jet packs. :) Quote
Hemidakota Posted March 31, 2008 Author Report Posted March 31, 2008 If you look close on what I questioned, how does this relate to sciences evolution model with those claimed pre-Adamites? Quote
JLFuller Posted April 8, 2008 Report Posted April 8, 2008 Yes, for the few out there of scholarly notoriety, upon the Savior’s resurrection, we do know that the graves were open for the just and they did receive there heavenly rewards. If that being the case, currently, there is no body for Abraham, Adam, Eve, and so on since we do know they were indeed just. Now, resurrection to make it simple is the mortal becomes immortal; thus the mortal flesh to be return to that disembodied spirit body and made perfect. 1] Many mummies found throughout the globe, dated before the Savior’s birth, what is the statues of these people? We have there body…2] If the resurrection gates are open, why the prophets [including righteous people] since Christ not resurrected?Can I put a little finer point on your statement without seeming too officious? If so, the resurected have taken on a Terestial body not a Clestial one. We are living a Telestial existance. Quote
Hemidakota Posted April 12, 2008 Author Report Posted April 12, 2008 Good point. I would caution others, those who are selected be part of the Lord's 144,000 [see Revelations and the D&C for clarity] and died, will be resurrected to carry out the Lord's plan. This will happen prior to the Lord's return. Quote
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