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  1. First let me start by saying I admire your courage to seek some help and advice. I know it's not always easy. I think you are not the only one that struggles with this sin. Our world is plagued with violence, porn, homosexualaity and a real careless attitude to have meaningless sex. The internet makes it so easy to fall into these types of sin. Honestly I think your wife could forgive you. I have been married for 19 years. I love my husband very much and if he came to me with this in a humble manner how could I not forgive him? I am sure it would stir up some insecurities of my own. That would be my own issues that him/I would have to work through. Ask God to put that degree of forgiveness and that degree of love and faith in you in your wife's heart. God never wants to see marriages fail. Sometimes things do have to get bad before they will get better. My wedding vows were for better or worse, in sickness and in health and so on.... Honestly I think you need to turn this over to God. God is so loving and so powerful and so just. It is Satan's grasp that has a hold of you. Sometimes I think the world gives too much power to Satan. He is nothing more then a fallen angel. God is all knowing, all powerful and most importantly, HE IS our ALL in All. Pray to God, ask for forgiveness. Stay humble. Start doing other things to occupy your time when you find yourself falling into a pattern of behavior that leads you falling. Simple prayers, Lord please grap ahold of me right now, I feel myself starting to slip...Lord clear my thoughts... Lord HELP. Everytime he clears your mind of the images of porn and the desires that follow, respond in thanks and praise. Scripture tells us God is faithful to us if put our trust in Him. This could honestly be a faith building time in your life. Struggling with a sin and realizing you are human and you need God's help and can't do it on your own is a powerful step in the right direction. Let this be between you and God. Let him be your All in All. Stay in constant prayer with Him and lead a life that makes you dependent on Him. I think as you do that and as you ask for that you'll find yourself more focus on the positive things you have going on in your life and less on the stress. Let 1 John 1:9 be a scripture you cling to. "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." Lean on God for your cleanse of your mind and spirit. Let Him send put the love and strength you need in your heart. Focus Focus Focus on God and let Him help you shut out the perversion of the world. As you focus more on Him and less of the stress then you'll find yourself in less of a need to turn to stress relievers. Keep you head up, You're not abnormal and you haven't devasted your marriage. God is more powerful then you and your mess ups. Let Him fix them and then move forward past it and leave it in the pass. Pray with out ceasing. God Bless!
  2. This is not an easy situation. But I do remember the day I told my husband I was not in love with him. I remember telling him that I loved him but wasn't in love with him. I truly meant it. I felt almost dead inside. It was a very hopeless feeling and it was the hardest thing I had to tell him. I even told him that I felt trapped. Not that I wanted to go out or anything like that. I felt trapped as a mother and wife and constantly having so many demands put on me. I felt he was very unappreciated of anything that was done and I felt that nothing I did or the kids did were ever good enough. He was working a lot and so was I and going to school. He was snappy with the kids and I just hated being in the same room with him. I became very matter of fact about it actually. I think that was defense to try and shield myself. But I was not ready to give up on my marriage. He moved to a separate room. I enjoyed my space. We avoided each other and nothing was getting fixed. We had pushed each other to such extremes in our marriage that we literally had to start over. I held on for years trying to make our marriage work as he just got worse and worse. I finally just became closed off. Then he realized what the years has cost us and about to cost him. He began praying for our marriage. I did not. At that point I had the attitude, "if it works it works, if it don't I gave it my all".... and I believed that because I had loved him through some very awful years. The down talking the begrading. It took him probably almost a year or so of watching him change. He was open when we discussed things. He more importantly listened and heard me o ut. He had more patience with the kids. But I still stayed closed off. He would get upset and feel if I just lowered my wall and let him in everything would be ok. But the problem was, I had no feelings for him besides a dim light of hope. He was my friend and the father of my girls. I know this don't seem like a very hopeful post. But finally I was humbled and I realized that I couldn't fix my marriage and that my husband couldn't fix our marriage. My husband had been praying and we finally started praying as a family, then again together. Finally I just had to ask the Lord to help me forgive. That was the barrier. I told him I forgived him of things but there was still a wedge. THEN I had to ask the Lord to help me see my husband through His eyes. To help have Christ's love for my husband dwelling in me. I wanted to be able to talk with my husband and be convicted of things and have my tongue held of things and have that forgiving heart. Then I invited the Lord into our marriage. I had to complete surrender myself to God and let him put me and my husband and our marriage together. AND he did. This month we will be married 15 years. God is powerful and loving and faithful and will help if you ask him and allow him. I had to give into the fact that asking God for help then trying to fix it myself wasn't working. I had to ask him for help and allow him to help.
  3. I'm not LDS but let me see if I can offer you a few words of hope. We may not understand why we are doing through hardships when they come or why they seem to drag out. I remember high school and it is a very difficult time in life. I honestly think the world is harder now then it was then. Gosh that makes me feel old. But keep this in mind. We live in a very broken sicken sin fill world and we have since sin entered the world. God never promised it would be easy only that he would go through it with us. God uses our trials and tribulations to mature us. He is the potter and we are the clay. And if you have every watched an actual potter making pottery on a wheel you would see how the clay is mashed and twisted as it is mold. Going through trials is never easy. It's hard. It's frustrating and a lot of times it's a test. God will use trials to test our love for Him. To see if through the midst of the storm you love Him enough to keep on praying and praising Him for the things that you do have. When you feel weak in faith, ask the Lord to give you that degree of faith you need to reach for Him and to hold out. The Lord is the author and finisher of our faith and he developes our faith through the experiences in life. When we pray and ask the Lord for help through a circumstance and He pulls us through it, our trust in Him grows. When our trust in Him grows, He then increases our faith. This verse is sometimes easier to understand in the NIV translation as well. Don't give up praying over it. Take it to the Lord in prayer. Ask for his comfort. Let him comfort you and then you will be able to comfort someone else through the love of Christ. I have had that heartache that made me want to give up. Sometimes it's the Lord's amazing way of making us draw closer to Him. I will keep you in my prayers! God Bless you!
  4. Psalm 127 A song of ascents. Of Solomon. 1 Unless the LORD builds the house, its builders labor in vain. Unless the LORD watches over the city, the watchmen stand guard in vain. 2 In vain you rise early and stay up late, toiling for food to eat— for he grants sleep to [a] those he loves. 3 Sons are a heritage from the LORD, children a reward from him. 4 Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are sons born in one's youth. 5 Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them. They will not be put to shame when they contend with their enemies in the gate. This is the scripture that the quiver full comes from. Children are a blessing from God and blessed is the man whose quiver is full. I think God gives to people the amount of children He trust them with. I don't think this verse has to do with birth control. As my minister said once when announcing the birth of a new baby in our congregation and having the parents stand up. "Blessed is the young man who's quiver is full".... then he said, we all have different size quivers that hold different amounts of arrows. Then he chuckled and said that his only held two. I may be off topic but maybe I didn't really understand your question.
  5. Learning to praise God in the storms of our life is hard. But it's when we can learn to do that we are showing and displaying such a great degree of faith. Every trial and tribulation we face is for our maturity in the Lord. I've always loved this song since it's come out. Not sure if many of you listen to christian contemporary music.
  6. Here is what I could gather up This might help look at what Jesus said. Luke 24:44-45, "Now He said to them, 'These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.' 45 Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures. " Jesus speaks about what is written regarding him in the Old Testament. Then John the apostle writes that Jesus opened their mind to understand the Scriptures. What Scriptures? The Law (Moses), the Prophets, and the Psalms. This was a common designation for the Old Testament. Therefore, Jesus says that the written form of the Old Testament is Scripture. Jesus never said the scriptures contain the word of God. He said they were the word of God. Therefore, we can see that the word of God is the written form of Scripture. In fact, we are told by Paul not to exceed what is written. Note, Paul doesn't say to not exceed the parts of the scripture that contain God's word, he says not to exceed what is written! 1 Cor. 4:6, "Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively applied to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that in us you might learn not to exceed what is written, in order that no one of you might become arrogant in behalf of one against the other." It is the written form that is proclaimed as being Scripture, unbreakable, the word of God, and the standard of which we are not to exceed. This can only be true, if the written form is the Word of God, not just something that subjectively contains the word of God. Also 2 Tim. 3:16-17 says, "All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; 17 that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work."
  7. This is a very good topic! I think it's important for people to notice how much they have to be thankful for and to see how much God is working in their lives. - I'm thankful for the personal relationship I have with Jesus. - I'm thankful for Jesus and his selfless sacrafice of himself for my sins - I'm thankful that through him my sins are nailed to the cross and I face them no more - I'm thankful that through Him I can be counted as righteous in the sight of God - I'm thankful for the blessings He pours out on my family and I'm thankful for the tribulations as well. Life is hard at times and hurtful but I know that through our tribulations God matures us in Jesus. So even in the storms of life I try and remain thankful and look for God's hand working through it. - I'm thankful for my family and my girls and I'm thankful for their love of the Lord - I'm thankful that I can turn my problems over to the Lord and can be confident that He will handle them. I'm thankful that the veil was ripped in two and that we have a direct connection with the Lord. - I'm thankful for the healing He has given me, when the doctors could not figure out what was wrong. Honestly, I guess what it all comes down to is that I'm thankful for the Lord. He's my Savior, Redeemer, Counselor, Comforter, Healer, He's my all and all. God Bless!
  8. Well either a bunch of women lied about being married to him or he has lied. I have read that talk to and he goes on about how people were trying to accuse him of things. The lds family search engine is either saying that the prophet lied by keeping all his wives listed as well as their other husbands or he really was married to several women.
  9. Well not sure. I could say that he was sealed only to them and the marriages were never consumated, because that seems to be the answer I get from a lot of LDS members. But then I was also told that what I was taught for the reason of polygamy was invalid and incorrect. I was taught that it was so that the women that didn't have husbands would have a member of the priesthood in their home. I was told the "real" reason for polygamy was to raise up the righteous seed. Ok so then if the marriages were never consumated then how can you raise up the righteous seed? He was married to women that were already married according to the lds website and journals from some these women. Yes I know the lds church says that their journals aren't considered doctrine. But the church presses upon it's members how important it is to keep an accurate journal. I think Joseph Smith was taking advantage of his position and clearly going against his own revealation. What is your answer to that question?
  10. Good question, do you have an answer?? So do you believe that he only had one wife??
  11. I remember when I was a member hearing the saying that the first step to apostacy was researching the church history. I always found that puzzling. I think if you want to know about Joseph Smith's wives then you should go to the LDS.Org website, (Not anti Mormon) then go under the family search engine. Type in Joseph Smith 1805, He and several of His wives and His wives husbands all come up on the site. I could and accept polygamy the way it was taught. That their was not enough men for the amount of women. I could understand that HF would want a priesthood member in the household. BUT what I can't understand is why Joseph Smith would Marry women that were already Married? Makes no sense. Absoluetly none. Also, If you look at Herber C kimball, Joseph Smith and Brigham Young it looks as if they shared some wives. This clearly goes against D&C 132. If I remember right D&C 132 supports pural marriage and states that a man could have a lot of wives BUT that a woman could not be married to more then one man OR she would be committing adultry.
  12. good post Willow. I enjoy reading your post. When a person committs to the Lord and asks for forgiveness. God is just faithful to forgive. But as you said, it's not a license to sin and I think most Christians know and understand this. There is a change that takes place when someone is truly saved. There is a conversion that takes place where sinful things that once seemed enjoyable aren't anymore. With all of us there is a growing process that takes place. Some God has to work on harder then others. But we have committed our lives to the Lord. He is in us. There is a surrendering that takes place. A submission that takes place in the heart. I was saved several years ago. And during that time since the Lord has been working on me. He has broken me down and humbled me over and over and built me back up. Each time strengthening me. Everytime I call on the Lord and he protects me , helps me, comforts me. My trust in Him grows and He increases my faith. He is a part of my life everyday all day. I have an intimate relationship with Him. He is in me, and for me. Having that, I know my salvation is secure. I can have confidence in that. I have humbled myself and turned my life over to Him. I know that I don't deserve the grace he gives. My life is no longer my own. The work I do is as a result of Him in my life and it's done to glorify Him. My eternal life has already begun and it will continue with Him and in Him. My life is a life of praise and worship to the one that gave up His own life so that I would have eternal life. When I die, the worship and praise will continue at the feet of His throne.
  13. I don't teach such a thing I was saying that the above is a lie that satan would have us to believe. I think satan would want us to believe that we will be saved to the level of truth and righteousness each on embraces for him/herself. <<< It's false and yes therefore he would love if we believed it. One of satans goals is to get us to believe false teachings. So I'm sorry if I didn't make my thoughts clear. We are not saved by what we embrace we are saved by the blood of Jesus. I am not a teacher and I didn't teach, that satan teaches people to be righteous. I do think satan would teach someone that something is righteous when it really isn't however, but I wasn't even say that. ^^^^^^^^^^^^I didn't say this. I never said that it's ok to sin a little bit. But I do believe satan does tell people such lies. Sorry for the confusion.
  14. I think this paragraph shows how little you know about Christian. Christian churches expect their members to live their live according to the bible. No they don't have an annual meeting with their bishop/pastor to reconcil if they have paid their full required tithe. But paying tithing is important and it shows obedience and a love for God's teaching. Paying tithe is an act of faith. It's up to each indivdual if they pay tithe or not. Each person handles it directly with God. I don't need to sit down with a bishop about if I pay my tithe. If there is an issue with my tithe I get down on my knees with the Lord. I ask for help in my finances and I ask for help in trusting Him to meet my needs and paying my tithe. Tithing isn't a condition that holds a member back for service in a Christian church, it's a form of gaining a stronger faith and trusting in the Lord to provide for us when we are faithful. No there is no expectation to advance through priesthood levels. There is one high priest of the Church and it's Jesus. Always has been and always will be and He dwells in each of us. There are opportunities to do services for the Church and different ministries in the church so yes there are callings that we do. There is no need for us to go do work in a temple when we don't believe in the "works" that go on there. And as far as attending Church on Sunday morning and then going to the movies or a store that afternoon that's just wrong. We are taught to keep the sabbath day holy. And you need to be in check with LDS members too on that because they go to out to eat after church services, especially on fast and testimony sundays. They stop by stores and things too. So don't down play Christians on things the LDS do as well. No there is no requirement for us to trace our ancestry all the way back to Adam. I do see the need. We don't believe in the works that are performed in the LDS temples so there is no need. Although there are several Christians and people in general that find it interesting and do trace their family history back. But we are not required to do this and in fact there is a bible verse and I would have to look it up that says, not to get caught up in endless geneologies. So if the bible tells us not to then why. I know I'm sure that verse is corrupt and can't be trusted according to your beliefs. Will Holly and all Christians be saved? I'm glad you believe they will be saved to the level of truth and righteousness each one embraces for him/herself. I don't believe this. I believe our righteousness and our works are nothing but filthy rags and to believe that someone could be saved to the level of truth and righteousness one can embrace for him/herself is nothing more then a lie satan would want us to believe. I have no righteousness none zilch nada. However the righteous that I will have is that which is imputed on me by Jesus when he washed me with his blood. After I die what will be seen of me will be Jesus' blood. That and only that will save me. Everyone is not saved. A Christian in name only isn't saved. Just because someone says they are Christian doesn't mean they are. There is a verse in the bible that says that many will call on the Lord and he will answer that He doesn't know them. Hell is a real place and not everyone is saved because Jesus died for our sins. Only those that accept His gift will be saved. He will not make anyone take that free gift. I'm not an anti mormon but I will say when I believe you mis represent Christians and you clearly have.
  15. God does know your heart, but not just your heart every thing about you. Every thought, every feeling. Because God becomes an intimate part of you. When someone puts their lives in God's hands, there is a change in them. People can see it as God takes that person and begins to mold them into the person He knows they can be. Sure there are slackers. Sure there are people that may even slide back into their old life style, but God is faithful and he convicts. He will allow people to dable in sin, but He calls them out. It's a way of maturing that persons faith. God gives us our faith. He is the Author and Finisher of our faith. Everytime I'm posed with a trial, or illness or temptation and I pray for God's help through it, and He pulls me through it, I learn trust in Him. My faith increases through Him. Then the next thing that arises in my life I turn to Him quicker and stronger. Christians continue to grow in their faith and trust in God as he molds us and makes us. As far as your comment on people lying to get a temple recommend to hold onto their sin. I know of some that have lied to go to the temple. And I'm going to leave it at that. To lie to go to the temple that is something I'm sure they have to work out with God. But I think a lot of weight is held on if someone is able to hold a temple recoommend or not and I can see why some would lie. Do all? No. Do lots? I have no idea. Do some? yes indeed.
  16. I think this is a common perception by LDS when ever someone leaves. I heard it quite a bit. "Oh they think it's too difficult"... or..."they are weak in their faith they just need to read the BoM more" When maybe the real reason they are leaving is God revealed to them the contradictions in the teachings. Or maybe you are right in some cases, maybe it is too difficult to believe the teachings of things like, God was once a man like us and worked his way through ordinacnes of the church and died and continued to progress until one day he was exalted into god. I can understand how some of those doctorines would be "too difficult" to believe. One more comment and then I'll stop before you bash me for being anti mormon. I'm not sure where the LDS come up with the notion that some one can be Christian and like their sin and keep their sin. When someone becomes a Christian and they ask for forgiveness of their sins and committ themselves to follow Christ they are changed. Christ dwells with that person. Things they use to like that are sinful become not so appealing. God changes them into a new creature and they walk in a new light. There is a conversion in that person that takes place. It's not instant because it's a growing process. They gain a very intimate relastionship with the Lord. To say that some are entrenched with sin and still want to be a good Christian and keep their sin. That is such a major contradiction. And then to follow it up by bringing up the fact that Holly has or hasn't had a temple recommend is a long time is out of line. You are trying to say she's full of sin, can't keep a temple recommend so that's why she left. Unless she told you that's why she left then you owe her an apology for trying to drag her name down. I'm not sure what your reasoning is but maybe if you bring her down in the readers eyes you help protect the image of the church. Make people think something is wrong with her not the church.
  17. Hi Elgama, can you expand a little more on what you are asking here? I'm not sure I understand what your question. :) Thanks!
  18. Your questions are interesting but I'm still trying to figure out is you mean satanist as in pray to satan, worship satan or do you mean athiest as in, don't believe in God at all. I guess either way it doesn't really matter. I mean what your sugguesting could happen in any church. Although I think people are allowed to dabble in sin. I think God allows it for a while then I think they are exposed. That's why I think it's important to use the Bible as a benchmark of truth. Take what is being said and compare to bible. If it goes against the bible then it can't be of truth. If a Satanist taught a Sunday school class and said things that seemed out of order then it seems like it would be pretty easy to verify and start to question that person. If a member of the apostles started teaching stuff out of realm of God I think the others around him would, I would hope, come down on him and investigate. But I have a hard time believing that a person that is Satanic could work his way up through all the ranks to be a member of the apostles and his sin not be exposed. But in all honestly I think people have evil in them and some people have great evil in them. So I guess anything is possible. I just think it would take several years for a person to fake their way that far up into the church with out someone figuring things out.
  19. Welcome Heavenguard I really like your introduction. You seem very outgoing and friendly! :) I think it is good to learn about the world around you so you can understand others better. The world is very diverse in religions as well as ethenicities. Take care and God Bless! :)
  20. Elgama, I'm sorry hear that you are feeling so down. If I remember right from some of the comments in the chat room is that your health hasn't been too well? I know that can be very frustrating and depressing. It's good you don't bare any resentment to the sister that was bullying you. I think if you pray for that sister it would do good for you as well as her. It always has amazed me the blessings I get when I can humble myself and pray for forgiveness for someone that has really hurt me or done me wrong. Let me also give you a bible verse that helps me when I'm in the mist of a storm in my life. God never said that our lives here would be easy, but he did say would never leave us. What ever storm happens in our lives we should be humble and thankful to God for it. Because in the mist of it, His hand is working. We don't know if we are going through it to learn a lesson or to be an example to others. I really struggled with the concept of praising God during the storms in my life. But I've come to realize that God has in hand in everything. There isn't anything that happens to us that doesn't filter through his hands first. Romans 5: 1-5.Romans 5 1Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: 2By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; 4And patience, experience; and experience, hope: 5And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us. It's my hope and prayer for you that you not lose hope. That you bless and praise God continuallly. That what ever trials you are facing that you can see God's hand working and that he gives you the peace of mind and the understanding of why you maybe going through it. My daughter who is nine aske me a question last week. She asked, "Mom if God already knew that Abraham would obey him then why did God even have Abraham put his son on the alter? It doesn't make sense mom if God already knew what Abraham would do. " We were driving so I thought for a minute. I was kind of amazed at her perception on things and I told her.... "Because it's not enough for God to know that Abraham would obey Him. Abraham needed to know that he would obey God. And Abraham's faith increased when he did obey him. Abraham learned to trust God, but Abraham also learned the strength he had in himself from God.".... Sometimes we have to be put through trials and tests so that we know and we learn to trust in God and depend on God to pull us through. Every trial we get through that we asked God's help on strengthens us spiritually. God is faithful. God Bless and take Care! Missy
  21. wow that's pretty interesting! Thank you for the post. :) I like the quotes you have as you signature.
  22. Thank you for expanding more on your original post so I can better understand where you are coming from. I have seen a PB posted before, but that thought hadn’t crossed my mind. I don’t need any justification for leaving the church. What happened is between God and I and it is for God and I to work out, if it needs to be worked out. I can see now that you expanded your comments why you think it is sad. However you seem to have former members all lumped in one category and have them all label as wolf-in-sheep’s-clothing. I just recently joined this forum so I don’t know what tactics I have that would be always changing and am I not trying to get sympathy. I asked if someone could direct me on how to get a copy of my PB and am thankful for the assistance I received. It doesn’t matter if my PB is invalid or not I have my reasons for wanting a copy. I disagree with you on saying it would cause mental distress. I disagree with what you believe hell is. I believe hell is a real place not a state of grieving for a place that I could have obtained. I do have a question for you John Doe if you don’t mind. You stated that if I am interested in coming back to talk to my local bishop. Then you stated that after I got baptized I could get a new PB with new blessings. I thought a PB was a blessing that told a person of the plans that HF had for their life from the pre-existence, why would I need a new PB? Would the blessings change? Your comment is intriguing.
  23. Rachelle, I feel like I owe you an apology. I do apologize that my post upset you. I'm sorry you were lied to by christian churches. There is no need for you to feel sorry for me, because I don't feel like I have to swoop in on new members and "attack" them anti-mormon propaganda. That was never my intention when I joined here. Honestly it wasn't. I read your post and I just felt things were laid on my heart. I mean no disrespect to you or anyone here. I am glad you feel that you have found truth and I wish you the best in your walk wtih the Lord. Take care, good luck and God Bless!