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I think people laugh because it is so "out there" for them. What is not funny is it isn't out there for some!

I had a real eye opening spiritual experience when reading "Gospel Scholars Series, Catherine Thomas". She quotes scriptures and brings things to light in a new perspective. SHE TOTALLY explains why some people are interested in, seek out the Gospel and others don't. This book is definately worth the $15. especially for women. She also talks about the guilt, not worthy syndrome most women feel.

It's not silly and you're feeling funny over it because it is wrong. If you are meant to be together, if you think you will spend eternity together, waiting till summer is not long at all. If you wait you will be starting this relationship RIGHT. You certainly don't want to start something wonderful in a way that is contrary to the way Heavenly Father wants you to do. I have known people who didn't wait and ended up in a disasters' relationship. If this guy is as great as you say, he also will have more respect for you if you do what is right. You will also respect yourself more.

YEah, i read through most of these replies and I agree with Dove. Once they are grown, they look on your concern over them as controlling or insulting. I think you were a wonderful mother in letting her be with them so much when she was younger. I mean, you respected her free agency then. The hard thing is to give her her free agency now without feeling bad for her decisions. I know it is heart breaking. I have a daughter who has gone contrary to what she was taught. It has taken me YEARS to be able to live without it eating my heart out! When trying to help she gets angry. You need to be happy she came to church at all. You have to distance yourself as her mother and treat her as a daughter of God. Love her and treat her as you would a young woman who is just now coming to church and you have no expectations. You have to also release the feelings of guilt and shame as her mom. I know it's hard but she will only change when she wants to. She will only accept help when she wants it. Even if she is sick, you can only do so much. Sometimes someone else can get through when mom can't . Contact the singles ward in your area and ask someone in the Relief Society to visit and invite her to the singles ward and activities. Possibly peer acceptance would be a motivating factor.

:nownow:yeah unfortunately, with our sick society, some folks do really sick things!

:cold:home storage anyone!

There's a member who lives in your city named gigi. maybe you could look her up!

even if you are alone you can try renting lots of comedies to watch. It has been proven that laughing releases endorphins and releases the feel good hormones in our body. While engrossed in a movie you also forget yourself and your body can relax and release some of your tensions. If you don't feel like going out, you could always give yourself permission to watch funny videos on you tube for hours! If you have to watch the entire weekend, so what? Oh, and you could always go out and help someone else. If you can make yourself get the energy to go out. I think everyone has gone through periods of feeling this bad, for differing reasons. You are here for a purpose and don't want to go home before completing your earthly mission. Could be to help others who are feeling like you!

I hear even the democrats are scared!

When I first joined the church 30 years ago, I was told there were some acts that were considered perversions and not to be practiced. These acts were in days past considered that but in todays society are not. (between a man and wife.) anyway, I have never had the issue brought up or even hinted at in any church affiliated meeting.

All of us here accept our nothingness. THat is why we have given our hearts, souls, and mind to Christ. We all rely on and relish the fact that Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ have grace on us! Why do you keep coming back and preaching to us? Why are you continuing to preach about grace when we already get it and are very thankful for it?

As I understand it, speaking in tongues in only the ability to speak in other languages. When the apostles spoke in tongues after receiving the holy Ghost, there were many people there of different nations all speaking different languages. When the Apostles spoke in tongues all of those people could understand what they were saying. In todays world the need or gift of tongues is to be able to learn another language quickly, like missionaries going in the field, so they can communicate. In the scriptures it says that anytime someone speaks in tongues, there is ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE THERE THAT UNDERSTANDS and can interpret. In other descriptions in the scriptures where it talks about things not being able to be written, this doesn't mean it is secret, it means that man has no words to describe these things they are so wonderful. I have heard the same description from the Gospel discussions by Ancient Scripture professors in lessons as well as read it in gospel scholars series books. There are some words in spanish that there is no words in english that means the exact same thing. All languages are this way. As far as the language of God, He speaks through the spirit. There is no need for spoken word. Now when you talk about people speaking in tongues in a church service, where everyone stands up and begins babbling, well, it's not from God. Go to one of their meetings. see if you feel the spirit . I bet you feel a spirit, but it won't be the Holy Ghost!

okay, I read this last post, and yes for the most part I agree. BUT, there are times when a divorce is not a selfish act or because you were also to blame. There are times when one spouse DOES do the right things. DOES keep their vows and covenants. BUT you cannot control or make your spouse do what is right! You can't make your spouse stop abusing you, you can't make your spouse stop doing drugs, you can't stop your spouse from having an affair. Sometimes you have to do the hardest thing, you have to leave this spouse for the protection and well being of the children. People who stay together for the children's sake aren't doing them any favors. They are teaching their kids to fight their spouse, they are teaching their kids that marriage is horrible, they are teaching their kids HOW NOT TO LIVE. Sometimes a parent has to to the most unselfish thing and Leave the other person and do it all alone! It is worth every second of peace in the home. It is worth every FHE and prayer in the home where the Spirit can NOW reside.

hahah you guys! I posted a link last week about how I hate it when people POSE as Latter Day Saints, then breed contention! as far as this question regarding grace. seems to me that some Christian denominations are the ones who don't understand grace. Grace is the act or attitude of HEavenly Father and Jesus Christ continuing to love us, continuing to bless us, continuing to give us the opportunity to repent and do better than yesterday. here's the definition in the dictionary "1• courteous goodwill : at least he has the grace to admit his debt to her. • 2 (in Christian belief) the free and unmerited favor of God, as manifested in the salvation of sinners and the bestowal of blessings. This gift of grace however doesn't mean that we can continue to do a we please, sin knowingly, then expect to be forgiven the next day because we are just human! GRACE WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD meaning, dear boy, that we have to TRY to live the commandment and do those things demonstrated by Christ when he was on the earth. When I was Baptist, this was the mind set. Oh we could go out Friday night and party down, then we could feel bad on Saturday, then repent on Sunday! What kind of thinking is that? Oh, I'm saved by grace and all I have to do is PROFESS that I believe in Christ and do nothing more. I am saved by grace! :embarrassed:It doesn't make sense! "If Ye love me, keep my commandments I have to love Him, follow Him, try very hard to overcome my shortcomings and temptations, continue to humble myself and ask for help. No matter what I do, no matter how much I overcome the things the natural man has the tendency towards, i Will never, NEVER be worthy to return to him, This is the GRACE part, even though I am not perfect, even though I am not spotless, even thou I am not sinless, He still loves me! His atonement will pay the price for my transgressions. His grace toward me and all of us is what will save us in the end. People who argue GRACE VS WORKS, don't get it. I guess they are hoping and fighting for the go out and sin Friday and His grace will make it okay. If that is what they want to believe and count on, then go for it! We'll see in the end won't we?

It is through His grace that we have any hope or chance of returning to Him. Of course grace is part of the picture! If He didn't have grace towards us, we would be totally gross to Him. His love and grace is the ONLY way we can go back. Each day we have here on earth to try to do it better is a grift of grace! as far as this spirit you feel. Anytime you dabble in evil, you are in essence inviting them to be with you. They come in yor home, go with you whereever you go, That is until you do the things necessary to make them leave. The priesthood is about the only power on earth that is stronger than evil. When we drink alcohol or do drugs past the point of control we open ourselves to allow the evil spirit to actually enter our body and dwell within. This is one of their greatest desires. Since they will never pocess a body of their own they try to get us to do things so our spirit no longer has control over our body and BAM they're in! Since you actually dabbled in the occult and other evil things, you may well indeed have opened your body for one to enter. You'r right people don't talk much about this. We live in a society where talk like this is looked on as mental illness. The interesting thought is, that some people with mental illnesses actually have an evil spirit in them causing the problems. They cause all kinds of other problems too. You will probably have to talk to a priesthood holder that you can trust and ideally one that knows you pretty well. For something this powerful, you and the priesthood to give you the blessing need to fast. Next Sunday is fast Sunday and this certainly is none too soon! Good luck! One really good thing, you recognize this situation which gives you much power also in being able to get yourself straight and then stay that way. oh, one more thing, you need to have your home blessed to get them out of there, then don't do anything that will invite them back in.

It is absolutely necessary to have a testimoney IN SPITE of the members! If I based my testimoney on the members, how I was treated, I'd have been gone a long time ago! The reason I;m still there? THE CHURCH IS TRUE ! each of us has our "issues" temptations, weak points, tht we are striving to improve on. This is the whole purpose of our mortal probation. Can we make it though this mine field and STILL stay strong in the gospel??? That IS the question! If you aren't being spiritually fed at church, if people aren't living what they are preachin, YOU need to strengthen yourself by not only reaidng scruptures, but also other gospel books by general authorities. satan is the one behind the things that are making yo feel this way. don't let him win your soul!

Hey, I just saw a talk on BYU tv and they said that 40% of families are struggeling with this issue. You are not alone. In a talk I heard several years ago the speaker said that the whole reason the internet was invented was for geneology. Since we know there are are opposites in all things, what evil could satan come up with that would be an equal of the good in geneology? Porngraphy. It is the plague of our time. You need to understand that there is more to your addiction than just the act. THere are issues in your emotional or spiritual makeup that the viewing of pornography stimulates. Needs you don't even realize that have nothing to do with sex. If you are in an area that has professional church counselors, you should go see them. You don't need to go to your Bishop first unless you ned help paying for it. here is a quote off deseret books page on pornography, "The plague of pornography is real, and it is growing. For those who are trapped by its power, the way out may seem impossible. President Gordon B. Hinckley spoke directly to those individuals struggling with an addiction to pornography: 'May you plead with the Lord out of the depths of your soul that He will remove you from the addiction which enslaves you. And may you have the courage to seek the loving guidance of your bishop and, if necessary, the counsel of caring professionals.'" here is a book off mormonmedia.com "No More Disposition To Do Evil" "In our society, pornography use has reached epidemic proportions. One of the most addictive evils of our time, it destroys thousands of families, relationships, and individuals every day. Many desperately want to quit but they feel that escape is impossible. Heartbroken family and friends want to help their loved ones overcome their problem but don't know where to start. "No More Disposition to Do Evil" is an invaluable resource for anyone seeking ways to understand, overcome, or prevent addiction. Rory Reid, a nationally renowned therapist, speaks out about recognizing and understanding pornography addiction, and the steps that you or your loved one can take to win the battle against pornography. Drawing from his experience counseling patients and his research into the problem, Reid illustrates how key steps, a change of perspective, and spiritual principles are all essential parts of the pathway to recovery. " You say yoi don't have a tstimoney, my bet is you do. If you didn't you wouldn't continue to strive to llive it. If you want to keep your wife, you absolutely need to get help. This is one issue that wives have a hard time understanding. Women think if you look at it , it means they are not enough for you. Is that the case? Do you want you wife to feel this way? I'm not trying to make you feel bad, I'm trying to help you see a little better. You need to read your scriptures more than on Sunday. You can get over it if you really want to and do those things that you have to.

Come on, speak up! No more coded messages! :monkey:

Maybe you are ahead of me and this is old news, BUT I just discovered Deseret Book has a video page with hundreds of videos by other members creative endeavers. They have some I've never seen, plus the new younger group in competition with the high school musical craze. DeseretBook.com - DBTV: A Safer Place to Watch Your Favorite Videos

I sure hope he can pull off what everybody else thinks he can! I think his first day in office shows great potential! Hip hip HORAY him getting rid of the lobbyist! With the things going on now the second coming COULD be VERY near, BUT, I don't think so. I have a mission to complete! Water has to run from under the temple in Jerusalem down to the Dead Sea. My kids patriarchal blessings say they have much more to happen! I'm looking forward to it but I'm afraid it is going to much much worse.

AMEN ! Brother Ben oh I mean Brother Prisonchaplain!!

I think the Book of Mormon is a guide, a key to these latter days. I agree with this statement wholeheartedly. If you will read what is supposed to proceed the second coming, then go read what happened before Christ appeared to the Nephites, it is the same thing. Also, remember when it says that the people who saved their treasures and buried them, they became slippery and they could not find them when they went to get them? The only ones who would be safe where those who buried their treasure unto the Lord. What is a better way to describe putting all your trust in the financial wizards and putting all your savings and retirement savings with them and the market instead of paying off their debts, storing food and resources for what is to come? Brigham Young once said that in the latter days a barrel of wheat would be worth more than a barrel of gold.

HELLO............. hello........... did you not read my first post? Check out the dates! Joseph Smith was not a liar!

While doing research on my genealogy and researching the young woman who saved the Doctrines and Covenants (I study several things at once). I was reading her story, (cant remember her name now) but it was her own story in her on words. ANyway....... she married someone outside the church. Years later, after her husband and of course Joseph Smith had been dead a long time, she had herself sealed to Joseph Smith. Finding this incredible, I asked a genealogy expert who teaches genealogy at William & MAry what was the deal. told me that YES in fact MANY MANY women had themselves sealed to Joseph Smith AFTER he was dead. Upon further research on this I found that the sealing dates were indeed AFTER his death. SO, this explains a lot of things. This was a practice back then, but it has been stopped because all the women wanted to be sealed to the original prophets and apostles!

What Ward did you go to? WE want to move there!