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Behold the Lamb of God Jeffrey Holland April 2019 “Furthermore, there will be others who unavoidably find their ox in the mire on a Sabbath morning. However, to this latter group we say an occasional tardiness is understandable, but if the ox is in the mire every Sunday, then we strongly recommend that you sell the ox or fill the mire.”
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Sounds like Eli Herring. https://www.deseret.com/2015/4/29/20563855/20-years-later-blessed-herring-believes-he-made-right-decision-not-to-play-in-nfl/ From the above interview you can see he had no regrets. I was on the BYU track and field team with him back in the early ‘90s. He was a heck of a good shot putter too. And his eating prowess was awe-inspiring. Doing the right thing always pays off.
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Such a crazy book. The mere composition of the book proves that Joseph Smith translated it. I found the following work quite helpful. https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/jbms/vol4/iss2/5/ Hit the above link then download the .pdf
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During the passover seder it is a common practice to sing this song. It has 15 or more verses. I’ll list the first two. Refrain Dai, dayenu, dai dayenu, Dai dayenu, dayenu, dayenu, dayenu (repeat) 1. Ilu hotzi hotzianu Hotzianu mimitzrayim, Hotzianu mimitzrayim, Dayenu Refrain 2. Ilu natan natan lanu Natan lanu et hatorah Natan lanu et hatorah Dayenu Refrain In english - 1. Had he brought us out of Egypt, Only brought us out of Egypt, Had he brought us out of Egypt, It would have been enough. 2. Had he given us the Torah, Only given us the Torah, Had he given us the Torah, It would have been enough. I was thinking about the song during fast and testimony meeting and I realized that even if there was no hope of salvation or exaltation. That my life, as is, has been enough. I have learned and grown so much. I have experienced love and a wonderful family. I know right from wrong and know why doing the right thing brings joy. I love the scriptures and know that God lives. Last summer, I came home from a busy day at work, pretty spent and possibly a bit irritable (I don’t even remember the circumstances). But I do remember that my 14 year old daughter, without any direction, prepared and presented me with a perfect BLT sandwich. And I mean better than restaurant quality. After I had eaten the first half of the sandwich, I commented to my wife that the experience was worth the trip. She said, what trip? And I replied, the trip here to Earth. And I meant it.
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Contraceptive use is up dramatically among LDS as well. My eldest daughter was surprised and disappointed by some of the teachings that she received @ BYU concerning family planning and self care. And infertility is a booming business. Which isn’t surprising after taking contraceptives for a decade and then trying to have your first child during your 30’s or 40’s when it’s financially convenient.
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Like I wrote, frankly I don’t know. I have heard some talk of needing some mental stimulation. Likely men are at fault for under appreciating their spouses. Listing to the whisperings of Lucifer’s host - believing that their decisions were less rewarding or less important than a formal job. That they missed out on getting a degree. Some sort of dis-satisfaction… I agree with Goodwill Hunting, “You spent $150,000 on an education that you could have got for $1.50 in late charges @ the local public library.” An education does not require a university… As for enjoying working outside the home. I can’t understand it at all. I work with many over educated men and women. I have way more stimulating conversations with my children. If me or any of the people that I work with won the lottery, we would quit our jobs overnight. I understand working women that must provide basic needs for their families. Its the women that already have supporting husbands that confuse me.
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At work, I heal the lame. People don’t seem to care how many hours it took me to learn my trade. One of the questions I always ask patients is if they have had prior orthopedic surgery. They usually remember the surgery, but rarely if ever, the name of the surgeon. I have spent many hours away from my family due to my profession: 120 hour work weeks during the 5 year residency, emergency surgeries, weekend call and cases. The children notice. My mom worked @ a company that made bathrooms for LaQuinta hotel, while I spent time in day care, preschool, etc. I made it a priority to make sure my children had a mother that was there for them. Occasionally a patient will ask for a hug. And it’s nice. But can’t compare to a hug from a child or spouse.
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Yup, I could go on for hours about this. I live in CA so it’s hopefully a local issue, but keeping up with the Jones’s is alive and well here - including the LDS church. My wife has never worked outside the house and we have exclusively homeschooled our children. Although we have 11 children we have never had more then 2 cars. I drive a 9 year old pick-up truck with 150,000 miles, it drives great. I make a good living but It seems like the majority of cars I see on the highway or church parking lot are fancier than mine. I’m a bit of an extrovert but I’m observant. I see LDS mothers returning to get an education or work because - frankly I don’t know… As far as I can tell their husbands have good jobs and can adequately provide for the family. Plastic surgery, therapists, antidepressants, RVs, Ski & fishing boats are aplenty. This is from a father son campout last night. The 3 younger boys in the family. They are all wearing hand-me-downs or clothes from goodwill or ebay. If you notice, they caught this fish without a pole. Trick I learned in Chile, wrap the line around a tin can (or Coke can here in the states). You get the lure going with centrifugal force then release, and line up the long axis of the can with the direction of lure release. Works great. Cheap and functional. Didn’t need a bass boat or a pole. And most of the other children wanted to try it. My backup plan to medical school was highschool teacher and coach. I would have been great. And my J.D. wife would still have stayed home and raised our children.
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Just no.
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Perhaps we should be addressing these issues directly. I shudder to think how a Nigerian Latter-Day Saint relief society meeting is going to take this message as to how to become a successful LDS juggling mother / lawyer / church leading role model. As of April 2024, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Nigeria has 232,654 members, 769 congregations, 68 stakes, 15 districts, 505 wards, 264 branches, 9 missions, and 5 temples.
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“While I was a boy working in the fields with my mother, she taught me one of the most important lessons in life. It was late in the morning, the sun was up, and we had been hoeing for what I thought to be a very long time. I stopped to look back at what we had accomplished and said to my mother, “Look at all we have done!” Mother did not respond. Thinking that she had not heard me, I repeated what I had said a little louder. She still did not reply. Raising my voice a little higher, I repeated again. Finally, she turned to me and said, “Edward, never look back. Look ahead at what we still have to do.“ Edward Dube, October 2013 - Look ahead and believe. In my opinion, this is the kind of message we need right now.
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Oh, I’m gonna be ok. But this kind of communication is going to validate a bunch of women (and men) in the church.
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Aaron Sherinian update anyone? @JustAGuy If me, my wife and MiL are noticing that we are presenting a mixed message. There must be others that are confused as well.
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Recent post that triggered my wife (who also has a law degree) but never practiced and raised 11 children. I don’t do facebook so never would have seen it.
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I didn’t quote him directly but when my wife, I and my daughter heard the words I and my daughter were confused. My wife felt undermined. She did get an education @ BYU, and she has worked @ a fortune 500 company the past 2 years. She hates it. Her husband is trying to get into medical school and she just wants to start a family. She calls the benefits @ her company golden handcuffs.
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This is a better response than I ever hoped.
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How many times have the prophets told fathers to support their families and mothers to stay home and raise the next generation? My patriarchs are giving my daughters blessings to get an education and prepare to provide for the family. We see general authorities appointed whose wives have extensive work histories outside the house (while raising children). Will there be repercussions? Or should I send my wife out into the workforce so we can have a nice RV & houseboat?
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My family celebrated the Passover with a great Seder this year. The last supper was a Seder. I find it very beneficial to remember what happened to Israel. And to compare modern covenants with the ancient covenants. Also Article of faith #10 We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory. I also love bagels, Challah, and Brisket.
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We LDS actually believe the same because God and Jesus are continuing to progress (grow in glory at the very least). And, we are forever indebted to them. The best we can hope for is to eventually become a profitable servant. "As man now is, God once was: As God now is, man may become." The Lorenzo Snow couplet is a static not dynamic statement. We might eventually get to where God is now. But we will never equal or exceed him.
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What does this mean? Christ said to Mahonri . . .
mikbone replied to Still_Small_Voice's topic in LDS Gospel Discussion
Yup, Mahonri wrote the sealed 2/3 portion. Ether 3:21-25 He passed thru the veil of forgetfulness and recalled his pre-mortal existence, recognizing Jehovah. He then was given a vision till the end of the world. He saw it all.