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On the mission I did a 2, 3, & 4 day fast. No food or water. After day 2, I wasnt hungry anymore but weakness became an issue. And day 4 orthostatic hypotension was a problem (if I didn’t get up slowly from a lying or seated position I would start to black out). So you get up slowly. I remember using mouthwash and brushing my teeth alot more often because of the ketosis halitosis. On the final 4 day fast I notified my companion on the Tuesday the day before I started the fast, and he decided to do it with me. I thought that he was a kinda ‘soft’ guy, but he rocked it without complaint. All the fasts ended on Sunday with the Sacrament. It does make the spirit stronger when the flesh is weak. I haven’t had the desire or felt the need for a prolonged fast since.
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so many knobs and buttons
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I think that I have an understanding that is similar to yours. I may be wrong though. I think that Elohim is likely an Architect that oversees the construction of many Carpenters. I'm not sure about how much area each Carpenter's influences though. If Enoch is a ministering angel to other terrestrial bodies that it seems likely that these worlds are also under the influence of Jehovah's Atonement.
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40 years ago this question would not have been answered with words like networking, multiverse, or space-time continuum. It was only 90 years ago that we discovered that there were galaxies other than the milky-way. As we continue to progress in science, do you see our understanding of God to continue to evolve? Out of curiosity, and obviously this is an esoteric question... When the scriptures state that Jehovah created worlds without number, do you think that He created the known Universe, or just the Milky-Way galaxy, or some other geographic designation (arm of our Galaxy, Supercluster)?
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Not there yet. Just ask my 4 year old.
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Is it a physical location? Or is it a state of glory. It appears that Elohim's abode is near a star named Kolob. Abraham 3:2-3 When this Earth is Celestialized it will be Jehovah's, and I assume that those who gain exaltation and eternal life will be welcome to live with Jesus Christ here on Earth. But eventually those children of Jehovah will start creating worlds of their own, under the guidance of Jehovah. And they will make their own Celestial Kingdoms. The Universe is vast.
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In the Lectures on Faith we see over and over that Faith is Power. And the word of God is sacrosanct. We see repetitively, in the creation, in the very first chapter of scripture - the words "And God said," And it was. God's word is his power. Unlike men who say things and routinely do not keep their word, God always does. This is why we need lawyers and contracts with hundreds of pages of text... But the Atonement of Jesus Christ functioned proactively. Because Jehovah agreed (and gave his word) to become our Savior in the beginning, it was as if the atonement had already occurred. Imagine His voice as the voice of many waters (Revelations 14:2) speaking the Adamic tongue. The power to command and create.
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Ok so I'm a photography idiot. So here is the question. With the camera on the iphone being so good, what advantage do I get with a real camera? Talk to me like I'm a child.
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But it is ok for you to ignore D&C 76? The Temple narrative teaches us that the Earth originally had a paradisaical glory, now it sustains a telestial glory. During the Millennium it will likely have a terrestrial glory. The Earth has already been baptized (the flood), and it will go through a baptism of fire (the destruction of fire at the last days), and eventually it will become celestialized. see D&C 88:18-19, and D&C 77:1. The final Judgement occurs after the millennium. Only celestial beings we be able to dwell with God on the Earth after it has been celestialized - this Earth will be the CK. Those that are judged to be terrestrial or terrestrial will have to go to other spheres of glory. And the Son's of Perdition will be cast out to a location without glory. We will continue to follow God's laws. And I assume that there will be other covenants that we will have to partake of as we continue to become more like our Heavenly Parents.
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Why not try and consider that we are not in the Telestial Kingdom. And that we are governed by a mortal probationary law instead of a Telestial law. That alone could solve many of your hang-ups. D&C 76: 89-99 might be of particular interest
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Your last post makes sense logically. But does not explain. This post... And Earth / mortal life is not the Telestial Kingdom. It is more of a transitory testing period. I am a bit confused about your motivation. Are attempting to seek information. Teach your own version of the gospel. Or just troll the site?
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I have difficulty following your logic. I consider myself blessed to have been sealed in the House of the Lord to my family. If you find it offensive, you should probably have a conversation with your Bishop. Are you a LDS? I originally assumed that you were...
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One problem with your original statement is that it is way to broad. If you perhaps have a more narrow point of view I have missed it. The obvious problem with your statement is that it contradicts the Sealing Ordinance that was returned to the Earth by Elijah to Joseph Smith. Some of us devout LDS find such statements offensive.
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What was your point with this statement? You do realize that your statements directly contradict LDS core dictrine?
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so does baptism...
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Im sure not being a dirtbag is a prerequisite to entrance to the CK. So by your logic, I can substitute (not being a dirtbag) in your paragraph above in place of eternal marriage and it should still hold water. Getting a temple marriage is not a rubber stamp guaranteeing exaltation and eternal life. D&C 132:6-7 is legalese behind the temple ordinance. https://www.lds.org/ensign/1976/07/accepted-of-the-lord-the-doctrine-of-making-your-calling-and-election-sure?lang=eng The above link is the rubber stamp you are looking for.
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Its actually D&C 132:6-7 that is the prerequisite. But you knew that already.
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What is your logic there? And I don’t think of myself as married. I’m sealed to my wife, and children. You can get married on the love boat or in a drive thru Elvis chapel in Vegas.
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I concur. I haven’t seen it.
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Joseph was martyred 16 years prior. Brigham had previously argued his point with Orson Pratt, but that apparently made Orson Pratt more obstinate. Sometimes it is wise to just step away from a battle and let others take up the fight in our stead. The outcome of this meeting was beneficial. Orson Pratt chose to fall in line and stopped challenging the the Prophet. Even though time has likely proven that on this single point of doctrine - Orson Pratt was in the right. Although Orson Pratt had taught multiple concepts of incorrect doctrine in the past... Eventually, this document and many more will come to light. The church is doing amazing things with transparency.
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Journey before destination - There are always several ways to achieve a goal. Failure is preferable to winning through unjust means. Protecting ten innocents is not worth killing one. In the end, all men die. How you lived will be far more important to the Almighty than what you accomplished. Brandon Sanderson - The Way of Kings
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The Plan of Salvation and Axioms of Truth
mikbone replied to Rob Osborn's topic in LDS Gospel Discussion
Do you believe that Lucifer and his followers have the potential to change? Do you believe that they have been damned? Or can they come to their senses and be redeemed? -
The Plan of Salvation and Axioms of Truth
mikbone replied to Rob Osborn's topic in LDS Gospel Discussion
When we were first produced as our Heavenly Parent's spirit children we began the pathway that led to Eternal Life. But as we know, a third part of the premortal spirits decided to rebel against Heavenly Father's plan. We don't know why they rebelled. They had belief systems or personalities or prejudices that precluded them from following Jehovah. People be crazy! The homeless people on the street don't have to live that way, they choose to. How many people are on the dole because it is easier to claim disability then go out and work a difficult job. How many people choose to never have children because it is a cramp in their lifestyle. If you don't want to work and have a large family then the Celestial Kingdom is not for you. And there are lots of people out there that want neither. Moses 1:39 For behold, this is my work and my glory—to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man. And I loved Dallin H. Oaks October 2018 talk - Truth and the Plan. It is Core / Eternal Doctrine and an instant classic. It was my favorite talk of the entire conference. Other than the announcement of the 2 hour block.