Suzie

Hey, Crazypotato you are free to say what you want to say without the humor camouflage eh. And hey, it's Raca. :)

For me, it's sad when a good thread gets locked just because people disagree and start getting emotional. I don't think this thread is getting ridiculous at all or "r" like you mentioned.

Love that quote, I will put it as my signature. Thanks! :)

Hey too many people is just one or two. Oh yes, I can concede that we should all be kind to each other. Can you concede that the REACTION you choose to have when someone offends you has nothing to do with the "offender" but is entirely your choice? (the "offended") :)

It's called figure of speech. It is sad though that you are assuming intention (just wanted to be "right"). Well, I suppose that's your opinion and that's alright. :)

Who told you I do not understand? Oh brother, trust me you do not know me, my past and my present circumstances. You would be VERY surprised actually. :) However, again is a matter of choices each one of us make. Drop it already? I didn't know you was my boss. :) I would hate to see this thread closing because we cannot discuss this issue without getting emotionally involved or personal so I propose to focus on the TOPIC rather than the person.

How was she treated badly? I fail to see this. She sees a purse in the middle row and she sits there (I would have personally ask anyone around if that seat is taken seeing that there is a purse in there but that's just me). So it's obvious to me that someone (or more) were sitting in that bench before she arrived, what is exactly the problem? Maybe the person in question just went to use the restroom with her small child and just want to return to her seat? How is it that informing someone the seat is reserved equal being "treated badly"?

Hmmm I am not sure if you completely see the moral in Elder Bednar's talk or what I am trying to say.... It's simple: It does NOT matter whether the seat issue is silly or whether it is not (and the person feels not welcomed, etc). The POINT is that in BOTH perspectives, we do NOT have control over what people say or act BUT we DO have control on how WE react. That's the point on Elder Bednar's talk that could be applied to most "I am offended" episodes.

Just curious, why do they sleep together in the same bed if they are engaged and not yet married? That's odd. Furniture problem?

Oh no crazypotato, please never feel that you or anyone else here could offend me. Thanks for your reply. :) I don't think I am "cold", I am not sure if I am practical but I think I am definetely realistic. If being offended over a seat is not being oversensitive, then I don't know what it is.

Elgama, I think maybe we are all seeing this from a different perspective. I fully agree we should all emulate the Savior in our deeds, HOWEVER (and I suppose that's where my perspective becomes different) we have to be realistic that not everyone is always that way (whether on purpose or not) even in the Church. You are focusing on the person who says to another that the seat is reserved (and that they should be welcoming, kind, etc...) Oh yes, I agree and I am focusing on the person receiving that message because in the end, the person receiving that message is the one that has the issue (took offense) and the one that needs to move on. I agree with a lot of the things you said in your post but again, you and I know not everyone is like that and even as we strive to reach that level of compassion and understanding, many do not. THEN what we do? We cry and feel sorry for ourselves? It doesn't change the issue, the person receiving the message is the one that has to choose (and understand) what type of reaction she will have. It's not about the other person it's about yourself and how you choose to feel. Elder Bednar: And Nothing Shall Offend Them

Hmmmm Culturally? No, I don't think so. I think is a matter of personalities. Besides the US, I lived in many countries around the world because of my job. It was never an issue. I suppose we have to agree to disagree on this one. :)

Crazypotato, I think is "crazy" (no pun intended) that we are talking about ummmm...SEATS! I don't know, may be it's me but I find the whole thing very silly and petty. Feeling embarrassed AND HURT because someone tells you the seat is reserved? Never dreaming in asking someone to leave who sat down in a seat you reserved? :eek:This whole thing NOT being a "little thing"? Oh come on crazypotato. :) I don't know you, maybe you are extra sensitive and I am super thick skinned but the whole thing is being overly exaggerated AND if such insignificant things like that bother some people, boy then I foresee a road of many episodes of being "offended". If you choose to feel offended at least, choose when someone directly insults you, gossip about you and is utterly mean and spiteful. But a seat? Sorry, too much for me to take. What are we going to do next? Apologize if by chance someone who enters the chapel gets offended because unintentionally you may have look at them in a way they interpreted as mean and it hurt their feelings? Are we seriously going to be walking on egg shells all the time and cater for every single possibility of offense? No, of course. I fully understand and I agree we should all be welcoming and kind. Unfortunately, many are not (unintentionally and intentionally). It is THEN up to us to choose NOT to get offended by moving on.

Don't you think you are over analyzing this? It really doesn't have anything to do whether you are inactive, an investigator or even a member, it has to do with personality. We cannot be acting and walking in egg shells all the time because some people are easily offended. Being offended is a choice WE make. Possibly she could have done that, yes...However she didn't and I am pretty sure she must be at home right now totally unaware of the impact that she had on you (negatively unfortunately). So yes, she could have greeted you first but the fact is that she didn't. Why just not move on instead of dwelling in such a petty thing?

Exactly. I TRULY did not see her. The interesting is, what she wanted to tell me was not something important that couldn't wait. She even knows my number. It really shocks me how some people ASSUME so quickly instead of analyzing a situation or approach you. (I had to approach her). Are we as Mormons quite sensitive/thin skinned and easily offended? Generally speaking and in my opinion, I think we are.

What about the citizens of other countries such as Poland and other European countries and the rest of S. America?

Pam, this reminds me of a dear member in my ward that have been looking "upset" with me for a few Sundays so I asked her what's happening and I was shocked when she said that in "Such and such date, she wanted to talk to me but I was too busy talking with another sister that I did not see her standing around waiting and then going to one of the classrooms". I was like...."Is this April's Fools Day?"? I could only said "Sorry sister, heavenly father gave me only two eyes". *shrugs*

Crazypotato, I am lost! (as usual LOL) but I don't understand the connection. Do you mind to explain? Thanks.

Maybe my skin is too thick but I just cannot comprehend why I would leave a meeting just because someone tells me the seat I want is "reserved"?. Now if the person who tells me that is being very rude about it, etc then I totally understand, other than that I am puzzled.

I have asked this question many times online and besides the "it's not important for our salvation" type of answer or "we will know in the next life", nobody seems to be able to explain why God would command the murder of not only men and women but also infant and nursing children. In 1 Samuel 15:3-4 God commands Saul through the prophet Samuel to do the following: This kind of question cannot be compared of "Why doesn't God prevent killing of innocent people" or "Why doesn't God just come down and prove to everyone he's real". This is a question about Him COMMANDING the murder of INNOCENT BABIES. I believe whoever has a heart, would find those issues of the OT disturbing to say the least.

Matthew, since you mentioned you had no experience on how to hunt I would plead with you to think twice in what you are going to do. Hunting is considered a "sport" unfortunately, is it killing a sport? Not trying to judge you in your choice of course just merely trying to hope you will change your mind about it. :) Joseph F. Smith: George Q. Cannon: Thanks for letting me share this. :) Suzie

Linda, did you read this about Roaccutan? Accutane / Roaccutane : Welcome to Accutane / Roaccutane Action Group for Adverse Reactions including Suicide, Depression, Mood Swings and Psycological Adverse reactions Also I made a little search and anger is one of the side effects of that drug.

Maybe a new thread should be started of why the God of the Old Testament appears to be so brutal in some instances. It's not like anyone did not notice. Also, I think we need to understand that each one of us have different personalities and quite a few posters are very sensitive (IMO). It's a little hard to exchange ideas sometimes with those that disagree because they are offended easily. So instead of the discussion turning intelligent, it becomes emotional.

Applepansy, I just wanted to say how touched I felt reading your story. It brought tears to my eyes. Love you sister.