Suzie

Wings, can the vegetable oil be replaced with canola oil in that recipe?

I know the comment is not for me but it would help to clarify that the OP replied about her sexual orientation based on my question:

I thought you would say rice.

Holy smokes! What the heck? I had no idea that I come across this way:

Sorry!

Are you a vegetarian or vegan LiterateParakeet? I'm not a fan of rice generally but I enjoy brown rice.

I see a long of list of underlined issues, personal and marital, adding the fact that she got married at the age of 18, awfully young. I would strongly suggest that both of you seek the help of a trained psychologist, first as separated individuals so you guys can sort their own personal issues and then seek therapy as a couple.

Wings, you are very classy you know that? Every time you write about food I don't know why but you make it sound all sophisticated. :)

Sorry guys, but I am hungry. . I am going to make a vegan Chili spaghetti.

You are welcome to Church! Even though you will not be able to control how people sees you (and really, it isn't because you are gay, I think generally speaking people are like that). I wish I could tell you that if you join us, nobody would ever gossip about you or look at you differently and so on, unfortunately people are people everywhere including Church and depending on your location, well you know some people will have a more conservative approach. I'm quite different in this aspect, not really conservative in this particular point, I don't care if you are straight or gay, how you come dress to Church or whatever else, as long as you are there with us.

I would like to post the following quote by Elder Holland from a devotional address he gave when he was president at BYU back in 1988. I will post both, an audio with the exact words he spoke during that address and then an article that is found at one of the BYU web sites with some of the changes they made to his words. No, the changes are not really what I would like to discuss because they are really quite insignificant, just a change of a few words in order not to sound too "strong" but I would like to know your thoughts about the following. I will quote part of it but please feel free to read or hear the whole talk. Thanks. Audio: Text with changes: http://emp.byui.edu/marrottr/HollndSoulsSymbSacrs.pdf Edited: Correction made (date).

I know I shouldn't reply this often lol but I cannot avoid it because it's LiterateParakeet. :) What I love and admire about her is that she expresses her thoughts through experience and for me those are the best type of opinions. She went through a lot of hardships in life, things that probably most people would never have to go through ever and yet she remains so positive about life and she is so kind and caring about other people. A sensitive soul.

PERFECTLY said my friend. :)

anatess, when I first started reading her posts and I believe she had another avatar I thought she was a man and I remember my friend MOE saying "If she is a man, she has the biggest ovaries" Fun times. Anatess and I disagree in quite a few issues but what I admire about her is that she is not afraid to express her thoughts, no matter how popular or unpopular they might be.

Hi Meerkatarmy, is it that you are worried that people see you as a freak or that women in Church think you are a lesbian? A lot of people assume that if you happen to have short hair and dress in a more masculine way. There is little you can do about people's perceptions. If I was you, I would wear whatever makes me comfortable as long as it is modest. :) Church is supposed to be a place where you look forward to go every Sunday and where you are comfortable.

When I write about Church history and I have to quote leaders, I only write their name, such as "David O. McKay".

malikoman, it seems to me that one of the issues that you guys are having is perhaps that you are spending too much time by your in-laws. You guys are newlyweds! Enjoy the time with each other and let the relatives take a break.

EarlJibbs, you seem like someone who tries to understand other people's opinion. A good example I can remember recently is the thread "Going to Temple when we have a truckload of livestock? Weird, Strange, Still Okay to do?" where you tried to understand mine despite the fact that it wasn't the popular thing to do. I appreciated that. You are also very polite in your responses. :)

Happy Birthday PC, wishing you all the best and success.

Hi Southern_Bell, I am glad that you are out of your abusive situation but the scars will show their ugly heads at some point and it is better to deal with them as soon as you can. I'm happy that you are able to find solace in the words of JesusChrist, but I would also recommend that you start as soon as you are able to, some sort of therapy program in your area with a trained and experienced psychologist or counselor that can help you go through the aftermath of years of abuse. All the best my friend.

I would say she will be 6 next month but to avoid another similar situation in front of your daughter, I would call the store in advance and ask to speak with the manager and explain the situation and if they say to go ahead, I would go and if asked about the age issue again, I would say I spoke to "X" person about it and they gave me the okay.

You just come here and let Suzie give you a little TLC, and tell you that you are loved, appreciated and valued. And that no matter how awful your morning started, the fact that you are alive to make it another day it's a wonderful blessing. :)

I fully respect those who do not agree with gay marriage, even though I disagree with their point of view legally speaking I do understand in part where they come from. Having said that, I have no respect (figure of speech) for those who refuse to offer services to others based purely on their sexual orientation.

I agree with this in part. By now, everyone knows that the way I think about certain topics is a little different from the majority of the members here on this site. JAG and I disagree in a lot of topics or let's just say we see things from a different perspective but as someone pointed out previously in another thread we always remain civil. I must admit, not everyone knows the art of debating and JAG knows it very well and I enjoy debating with him. As Churchill said "tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip". In my opinion, a few people on this site lack the ability to disagree without becoming personal and emotional and even though I agree in part that we all come from different backgrounds, cultures, etc, I believe in most cultures, calling someone or implying that someone is a liar or an idiot just because they see things different than us is a no-no. I have a hard time understanding the need of having other people agree with you. If I post something and someone disagrees with me and we entered a debate, why can't we keep it "professional" minus the emotional responses or personal attacks? You know, just exchanging views back and forth and trying to understand the other side rather than exchange views trying to prove the other person is wrong. It is very hard to debate intellectually when the other side gets all worked up. Everyone gets upset at some point if they feel attacked. What I usually do is if I don't have anything else to say or I see the other person (or myself) becoming a little too agitated, I immediately remove myself from the discussion, thanking the other person for their contribution. I know it is perhaps not the best course of action, but is better than perpetuate the contention. Personally, I do not really care who agrees with me but I do care that others can understand (not agree) with my point of view so I try to ensure that I express my points properly. When things get a little heated here it reminds me about when people use profanity in their language or they become loud and shout to get their point across, they do it because they do not know how to express themselves properly and they believe by using profanity or being loud the other side will have no choice but to listen and accept their point of view. It is actually a very common manipulation tool. We have quite a few people who are very colorful in their speech and even though I believe it is a great talent to have, it can also be used to demean others, there are also others who will shred every little word you post and hack it to death... the thing is, what is the purpose of that? The whole topic becomes forgotten and the two or more people involved in the discussion take center stage which I think is the worst possible scenario that can happen to any forum. You want it to be about the topic, not about the posters. We also quite a few posters who seem to think that we all should just accept everything they say, in whatever way they say it because "well, that's how I am" and even though I am all for acceptance, if the way we are posting is harming people in any way, shape or form then we should do a little introspection to see if some adjustments can be made to our speech. We are always so worried about not spreading false doctrine here so new members don't get the wrong information, etc that we forget sometimes that people judge us and sees us not only for the information we share but by the way we interact with each other. There has been numerous times that I stopped myself from replying because I just knew that certain posters would react in a certain way if someone dared to challenge their views because it has become a patter. It becomes a never ending emotional discussion and to be honest, it wasn't worth it. The psychologist in me says there is a lot of people here struggling with a lot of frustrations, and of course we also need to add the fact that people in general seems to have a problem accepting that others just think differently and they are not asking for your approval and if you wish to enter a debate with them about their points, it is all good but keep it civil and professional and if you think you cannot do that, then why to enter such discussion?