Leah

I do not think it's "safe" nor appropriate to assume this. We don't know what his income was. It's none of our business. Board presidencies and directorships don't necessarily come with a salary. I have known wealthy people in my lifetime. A (very) few lived what many would consider ostentatiously. Most have lived a very modest lifestyle. You would never know by their home, car, wardrobe, etc. that they were millionaires. Their wealth went to (quietly, usually anonymously) helping others. I think some people are too preoccupied with what OTHER people do with the money that THEY earned.

Oh, please. You clearly think those are the only two possible paths. That's simply not true. It's a very narrow-minded viewpoint. Most people will be in debt at certain points in their lives....school loans, mortgage, car loan. In your narrow-minded way of thinking, none of those situations would be compatible with a happy marriage. Funny that millions of people manage just that every single day. The OP plans to go to med school. If he waits to marry before he pays off those debts, he won't be able to marry for a very long time. There is no worth in that. And being out of school and/or out of debt is no guarantee of a stress-free life. There are plenty of other things that can make for an unhappy marriage.

Really? You've heard talks that counsel you to do all of the above...including "have a poor relationship"? Which talk was that? Life come with stress. No one is going to be magically stress-free if they wait until after college to marry.

Great video! Thanks for sharing!

I don't see any requirement in there for a mandatory minimum number of times that the name Jesus must be uttered for it to "qualify" as a testimony. I guess those other points referenced.....our Heavenly Father....the truth of the gospel, etc.,....don't count as a testimony. It's only a testimony if we say the name Jesus enough times to satisfy the critics. You know...the ones sitting in their pew and NOT giving a testimony.

My immediate reaction is that if you can afford to hire someone for these kinds of tasks, then that is exactly what you should do. I just don't understand why anyone - widow or not - would expect their HTs to do stuff they can afford to hire done (and I'm a widow with physical limitations due to MS). They are not our personal repair service. There are enough demands on the brethren's time with such projects for people who are truly struggling financially and they get little enough time with their families as it is

I will never understand why some (too many) women think that anything having to do with modesty (or anything conservative) means there is abuse going on. Do not wear a bikini to lot "fit in". That is letting people - ignorant people at that - bully you into being someone you are not and taking you away from your choice to follow your church's teachings. I dress modestly and I am single. I wonder what they would have said to that? Modesty is not a bad thing.

Your coming to this forum makes NO sense whatsoever. There is nothing anyone here can do about this (supposed) situation. Did you expect someone here to hunt this person down and get him to cough up the money? The money YOU chose to give him? You could have said no. Heck, you had more than one chance to say no! Or did you expect someone here to pony up the money that is supposedly owed you simply because (according to you) we are members of the same church? Does that somehow make us responsible for what happened to you? Whatever his religion may be, his religion isn't responsible for his actions, HE is. Just like YOU are responsible for your actions. There is really no logical reason to post this here as there is absolutely nothing anyone here can do about the situation. We can't give you any advice that is different than anything you've already been told. We can't give you some magic solution just because this man is supposedly LDS. His religion isn't the reason he acted the way you say he did. If your story is accurate, there may or may not be legal recourse for you, and that information needs to come from an attorney in your state, and the religion of any of the parties involved is not relevant to that potential legal recourse. Or did you come to this forum because you were in the mood to bash Mormons?

Judaism isn't a race. Your argument doesn't work.

By your own words, he should ignore your advice. I concur.

How can you truly repent if you continue to lie? How can you truly repent while trying to avoid the consequences of your actions?

The behavior described is incredibly disrespectful. Especially coming from a spouse.

I was responding to the OP's statement that women in her area have to choose between celibacy and marrying "out".

With the internet, you aren't limited to your area.

May his memory be for a blessing.

I know what the issue is. The earlier statement was that any drink at Starbucks that contained caffeine contained coffee.. According to you, that is Starbucks' statement. I am saying that it is not an accurate statement as chocolate drinks - with NO coffee in them - would also contain caffeine. So the presence of caffeine does not necessarily mean that coffee is also present. Coffee is not the only source of caffeine. Not even at Starbucks. But if Starbucks' party line is that any drink served by them that contains caffeine must therefore contain coffee (does that also mean that there is coffee in the tea drinks because - according to SB - if caffeine is present, it comes from coffee), then why should I trust any information from them? Lie.....the hot chocolate is actually hot chocolate and not a coffee drink. I don't understand why you're being so defensive about this. Do you own stock in Starbucks? Are you plugging them for some reason?

I've tried several different brands and have shared with co-workers looking for a coffee alternative. They were appreciative to the point that they drank up all my supply!

Most people would not expect coffee to be part of their hot chocolate no matter where they ordered it, even in a coffee shop. It would be viewed as one of the non-coffee items there.

This makes me even more skeptical of your sources. Chocolate contains caffeine. Any drink with chocolate is going to contain caffeine. There is enough caffeine in chocolate that people with certain health conditions are cautioned against consuming it. So Starbucks stating that any/all caffeine in their drinks is derived from coffee is simply not accurate.

I would think that most people would have no clue about this. People think that when they order hot chocolate, they get......chocolate.

My radar went off when I read the OP. It's currently the "in" thing amongst certain groups to attack the practice of bishops' interviews - and therefore the church - via the internet.

I've known people who join a religion (including LDS) because they want to change the things they think are "wrong" in that religion. Makes absolutely no sense to me.

I don't understand what the question/problem is. First of all, what does living alone have to do with it? Second....whether it's the sabbath or another day, if you are too tired to function, what's wrong with taking a nap or going to bed?

I don't think the issue is at all about quarterly or monthly tithe-paying. I think the bishop is looking for a commitment to tithe paying that he hasn't yet seen. It also had not been six months yet. And it's probably not the only kind of commitment he is looking for. As for your earlier comments about "buying" one's way into the temple, I can't even describe out offensive that is.

But your focus IS on his weight. So don't tell us that it's not about weight. That's the complaint you shared with us. You stated he was overweight (at least in your eyes) from the start when you were dating. Did you expect it to be different after marriage? YOU are the one stating that you are considering bailing on your marriage because of his weight. So, yes you are absolutely willing to divorce someone because of numbers on a scale. Should you divorce, perhaps you should limit yourself to dating only skinny (in your eyes) men, then make it clear to them that you're out of there if they go above a certain number. Or better yet, seek to understand what eternal marriage is all about.